Originally Posted by BankItDrew

1) Describe your dream womenz (ethnicity, education, skillz, etc.)

Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

If you think you are smarter than wimmenz, why do you let them get you all emo?

Originally Posted by kiwiMark

in while the posts are still short enough to hold my attention!

Originally Posted by wufwugy

I'm unsure. I feel that 'dream' is unachievable given humans' natural variety and often dillemmatic desires and how things always change. We're far more pleased to settle than we realize. In practice, my dream woman was one of the many I've fallen for, in hypothesis, my dream woman is some kind of crazy idea that's not possible


Probably not moreso than anybody else. I do, however, put myself on a ridiculously high standard that has caused me a whole lot of problems. Its allowed me to avoid many problems, but itself creates unforeseeable problems


I don't do so more than any other man. The difference is that I acknowledge it. Male sexual desires are primarily one of objectification in the first place. No denying that. On the flip side, some of my objectification of women has to do with my experiences with the ones I'm most sexually attracted to being morons who go out of their way to make terrible decisions that ruin their lives and everybody's around them

Another thing to note is that males' interest in women is primarily one of sexual gratification. Many people don't like to acknowledge this, but it's true. Humans are very dynamic, so other factors can arise, but the fact remains that if sex was nonexistent, most men wouldn't even bother with women in the first place.


I don't. Women have equal intellectual capacity as men. However, this is often confused due to each gender's role in society, how we evolved for that and how it plays out in our social construct

Here's one example

Women are biologically and sociologically driven to manipulate relationships more than men. This is primarily because our species has mostly operated under the male = superior, women = inferior dynamic. What this has done has created a paradigm in which men get their way by being direct and forceful, yet women get their way by being manipulative and secretive. Throughout our evolution, men have not had as much of a reason to misdirect as women have. I'm not using this to insult women, just laying down how it is. This is also one way to explain why men are more violent and physically destructive than women

OTOH, in some ways women tend to gravitate towards intellect that we classify as 'dumb'. This is partly because women tend to be more emotionally driven over a wider range of topics than men. This isn't intellectual inferiority by any means, it just appears so since we tend to equate intellect with logistics. There are very definite sociological factors that neuroscientists have identified to cause any discrepancies in male/female intellect, and they're only that, social issues. I have many complaints about women, but innate intellectual inferiority is not one of them because it's not true


As I will always do when things are related in some way to biology, evolution doesn't care for how well things work, but just that they do work and perpetuate that quality. This in itself is amoral, and effects into some immoral and really bad shit. Everybody likes to live in a fairy tale where men and women are equals in every way and everybody lives happily ever after. Reality is much more unfair and cruel than that.

Originally Posted by Chelle

women belong in the kitchen.

Originally Posted by d0zer

why oh why would anyone ever encourage wuff-wuggy to go on some absurd, pretentious, self-indulgent rant?

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Yes, all 5 of you.

Originally Posted by Chelle

Originally Posted by d0zer

why oh why would anyone ever encourage wuff-wuggy to go on some absurd, pretentious, self-indulgent rant?

Originally Posted by wufwugy

Any emoness I have over women is not because of what I've learned about them, but what they've taught me about myself. It was hard to overcome at first

Originally Posted by wufwugy

evolution doesn't care for how well things work, but just that they do work and perpetuate that quality. This in itself is amoral, and effects into some immoral and really bad shit.

Originally Posted by 6spark6

>>LOL. See, you weren't really responding in an intellectual context. You were pseudo-opposing his view simply because it framed yourself as a more "moral person" (I.E. "I want something more than someone to fuck and clean up after me"). Your points were pretty much already established and all you did was frame yourself as the good guy. Which, actually makes you the bad guy (as far as morality is concerned) and wuf the good guy, since you are manipulating others' point of view for your own benefit, and he was simply stating his views after being prompted. Right?

Or maybe I'm misreading your hand.

Originally Posted by Warpe

Iron Man is a superhero.
Iron Woman is a command.

Originally Posted by flomo

i was hoping to see some tits in this tread.

Originally Posted by Lukie

there will be no in depth abstract evolution stuff, at least not beyond the extent it's necessary to understand why women are attracted to men with attributes like status, wealth, height, social skills, and confidence.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

This is part of why it irritates me when guys around here settle for ugly chicks. It's ALL about simply thinking you're worth it,

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Awesome link

And no, probably not.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

It's the reason douchebags always have hot chicks. They're worthless and retarded, but they get the chicks simply because they have that one thing that makes women wet; a high sense of self-worth and self-deservedness.

Originally Posted by d0zer

Confident douchebags can land hot chicks, but they can't land hot chicks that are actually worth having (by my standards). They can land hot superficial, vapid, douchebag chicks.

Any reasonably mature, intelligent woman that's actually worth having beyond a fuck can easily sniff out a douchebag and wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole unless they're drunk & looking for a one-night stand.

But this brings us back to the topic of vapid relationships, which you seem perfectly fine with -- so I guess it's moot.

Originally Posted by d0zer

Confident douchebags can land hot chicks, but they can't land hot chicks that are actually worth having (by my standards). They can land hot superficial, vapid, douchebag chicks.

Any reasonably mature, intelligent woman that's actually worth having beyond a fuck can easily sniff out a douchebag and wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole unless they're drunk & looking for a one-night stand.

But this brings us back to the topic of vapid relationships, which you seem perfectly fine with -- so I guess it's moot.

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Although spark does not know daven very well, he seems to think he knows daven very well.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

See that's the thing, you just have to act it

Just like how men are attracted to the appearance of beauty and sexuality yet often don't notice or care about the 'truth' behind that, women are attracted to the appearance of confidence and worth yet they rarely ever stop to wonder why. It's the reason douchebags always have hot chicks. They're worthless and retarded, but they get the chicks simply because they have that one thing that makes women wet; a high sense of self-worth and self-deservedness.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

I once was in love with a woman whom I fully believed to be one of the 'good ones'. She wasn't, and both the pain and revelation that experience gave me has been very, very hard to accept. I guess you could say that I've been hurt so deeply and so wrong about somebody that I go out of my way to not trust women anymore because I'm afraid I'll repeat the same mistake.

Originally Posted by Sean Maguire

It's not your fault.