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Old 06-07-2008, 03:49 PM     Post subject: How Restaurants Don't Serve Black People #1 (permalink)  
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There is a restaurant located about an hour away from where I live called The Depot at Cody Creek. It’s nestled in the rural countryside among the pine trees and a small river that runs so clear you can see the pebbles at the bottom glistening in the sun. The pastoral setting includes a covered bridge that all visitors must cross over in order to get to the restaurant (which resembles an ancient hunting lodge), and a small ‘old timey’ general store that sells things like rock candy and ‘chico sticks’ for a penny each. It’s really a beautiful and nostalgic place. I ate dinner there last night along with 21 other friends/family members who had gathered to celebrate a birthday. The night was filled with good food, laughter and so many smiles our cheeks began to ache. It wasn’t until the meal was finished that I learned something about Cody Creek that made me sick.

Making our way back to our cars, we stopped along the path to look at the river and chat once more before saying goodbye. There was a man sitting along the banks who worked in the general store. His face, like sun-dried leather, was worn in a grandfatherly way, each line and crease hugging his toothy grin. We chatted with him for a while and learned the history of Cody Creek, the owner, and their proud tradition in the area. He closed his story by proudly informing us that The Depot was the only restaurant that he knew of that still refused to serve black people. He explained that the restaurant was actually certified as a “members only” country club, but that they only asked to see membership from those with darker skin and that it was understood in the area that only whites ate at The Depot.

I honestly believe that trying to explain just how completely offensive this is to me would only serve to lessen the true disgust his remarks evoked. There are simply no words to describe the sinking feeling in my heart and in the pit of my stomach just thinking about it makes me feel. At first, I think I was sickened most by the fact that I had just patronized an establishment in which some of my own friends, people who are like family to me, would not be welcome. But then… during the hour-long car ride home, I came to realize that much of my dismay grew from the fact that I live in a world in which such places still exist. I suppose in my mind, places like The Depot existed only in documentaries on the history channel in which brave rebels dared to drink from white only water-fountains and ride in the front of the bus. As someone living in the south eastern United States, I am painfully aware of the reality of racism, but I think it's the existence of systematic racism, rather than merely individual prejudice that I found so horrific and shocking.
Taken from http://juniperflux.tblog.com/archive/2004/06/, some blog I found while trying to find an article about this to start this thread on. I've lived within 30 minutes of this restaurant for my entire life sans 8 months, and I thought this would be a story worth sharing.

On a side note, if I knew they didn't serve non-whites, and I ate there anyway, does that mean I'm supporting racism?
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:54 PM     Post subject: Re: How Restaurants Don't Serve Black People #2 (permalink)  
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On a side note, if I knew they didn't serve non-whites, and I ate there anyway, does that mean I'm supporting racism?

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:05 PM     Post subject: Re: How Restaurants Don't Serve Black People #3 (permalink)  
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On a side note, if I knew they didn't serve non-whites, and I ate there anyway, does that mean I'm supporting racism?

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i agree. i dont support business' that flamboyantly promotes things i disagree with or find offensive.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:12 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Whatever, if it's a certified private club they can allow whoever they want in, that's what a club is.

I've played at a few men-only country clubs and it doesn't mean I am a sexist or that I hold some discrimination against women. I play there though because the course is incredible.

So, in my opinion, if the food is really good, and you could not get a similar dining experience for the same price anywhere near it, then no, you are not supporting racism, you are getting yo ass a bite to eat.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:45 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Whatever, if it's a certified private club they can allow whoever they want in, that's what a club is.

I've played at a few men-only country clubs and it doesn't mean I am a sexist or that I hold some discrimination against women. I play there though because the course is incredible.

So, in my opinion, if the food is really good, and you could not get a similar dining experience for the same price anywhere near it, then no, you are not supporting racism, you are getting yo ass a bite to eat.
Well the big thing is that it's obviously not a country club, they just sort of bill it as one. If I had pictures I could explain better. I definitely understand what you're saying though.

The point of this is that if I go there, or if some white individual who knew nothing about the history of the place went there, it would seem like just another restaurant on the side of the road. If you're not, then you get asked for your proof of membership and you're denied service. It's just a way of blatantly discriminating using a technical point.

I was supposed to be a racist I guess. I grew up hearing nigger this and nigger that and fuck those goddamn sand-niggers and my dad's term for the large Mexican population my area happens to have, "taco niggers". I grew up being told about the Klan rallies my dad had been to when he was younger.

But somewhere along the way things just didn't turn out that way.
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I'm not an american but is racism really that present there? It looks to me to be quite the opposite, like how black people are more idolized than anything. A lot of sports are predominantly black (boxing, football, nba, etc), black is the cool thing in music too, with their hip-hop, rap, etc. Here's an interesting statistic: 70% of the market for rappers is suburban white teenagers. Sounds more like they idolization rather than racism to me. And the next president is most likely gonna be a black guy.
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I'm not an american but is racism really that present there? It looks to me to be quite the opposite, like how black people are more idolized than anything. A lot of sports are predominantly black (boxing, football, nba, etc), black is the cool thing in music too, with their hip-hop, rap, etc. Here's an interesting statistic: 70% of the market for rappers is suburban white teenagers. Sounds more like they idolization rather than racism to me. And the next president is most likely gonna be a black guy.
Do you even have to ask after I've made this post?
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I'm not an american but is racism really that present there? It looks to me to be quite the opposite, like how black people are more idolized than anything. A lot of sports are predominantly black (boxing, football, nba, etc), black is the cool thing in music too, with their hip-hop, rap, etc. Here's an interesting statistic: 70% of the market for rappers is suburban white teenagers. Sounds more like they idolization rather than racism to me. And the next president is most likely gonna be a black guy.
Do you even have to ask after I've made this post?
It's just one restaurant, which is statistically insignificant compared to what I'm talking about: a trend over the whole US.
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I'm not an american but is racism really that present there? It looks to me to be quite the opposite, like how black people are more idolized than anything. A lot of sports are predominantly black (boxing, football, nba, etc), black is the cool thing in music too, with their hip-hop, rap, etc. Here's an interesting statistic: 70% of the market for rappers is suburban white teenagers. Sounds more like they idolization rather than racism to me. And the next president is most likely gonna be a black guy.
I think sports and pop music are two of the biggest reasons racism isn't as strong as it used to be in the US, but I'll bet the people who own the restaurant in the OP don't watch basketball or listen to rap.
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I'm not an american but is racism really that present there? It looks to me to be quite the opposite, like how black people are more idolized than anything. A lot of sports are predominantly black (boxing, football, nba, etc), black is the cool thing in music too, with their hip-hop, rap, etc. Here's an interesting statistic: 70% of the market for rappers is suburban white teenagers. Sounds more like they idolization rather than racism to me. And the next president is most likely gonna be a black guy.
I think sports and pop music are two of the biggest reasons racism isn't as strong as it used to be in the US, but I'll bet the people who own the restaurant in the OP don't watch basketball or listen to rap.
uhhh what? sports and music isnt a reason why racism isnt as strong. black people being integrated into sports and music, to a lesser extent, is a result of civil rights progressing, not the other way around.
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Whatever, if it's a certified private club they can allow whoever they want in, that's what a club is.

I've played at a few men-only country clubs and it doesn't mean I am a sexist or that I hold some discrimination against women. I play there though because the course is incredible.

So, in my opinion, if the food is really good, and you could not get a similar dining experience for the same price anywhere near it, then no, you are not supporting racism, you are getting yo ass a bite to eat.
Supporting racism is perhaps a bit strong but you are putting money in their pocket. This really isn't the point though. I mean, would you really want to associate yourself with such people? Personally speaking, it's a big no.
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I'm not an american but is racism really that present there? It looks to me to be quite the opposite, like how black people are more idolized than anything. A lot of sports are predominantly black (boxing, football, nba, etc), black is the cool thing in music too, with their hip-hop, rap, etc. Here's an interesting statistic: 70% of the market for rappers is suburban white teenagers. Sounds more like they idolization rather than racism to me. And the next president is most likely gonna be a black guy.
I think sports and pop music are two of the biggest reasons racism isn't as strong as it used to be in the US, but I'll bet the people who own the restaurant in the OP don't watch basketball or listen to rap.
uhhh what? sports and music isnt a reason why racism isnt as strong. black people being integrated into sports and music, to a lesser extent, is a result of civil rights progressing, not the other way around.
I think it's very much the other way around.
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Old 06-08-2008, 12:50 PM #15 (permalink)  
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Well jack vance you don't live here so I don't think you would know.
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uhhh what? sports and music isnt a reason why racism isnt as strong. black people being integrated into sports and music, to a lesser extent, is a result of civil rights progressing, not the other way around.
I don't agree. The civil rights movement was necessary, but those are just laws. They don't accomplish anything as far as convincing racists to change their minds. If some kid's parents are racists, and that kid doesn't know any black people personally (most communities in this country are still basically segregated) then those ideas will probably get passed down to him. I think a lot of kids looking up to black athletes and musicians as role models is what kept that from happening.
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Way off MCat. Nobody grows up not knowing black people anymore because of integration. White kids looking up to rappers is just a phase they go through, for the most part I don't think is a good thing. I don't think it's good for black kids either.

Racism is dying down as a result of it becoming more and more socially unacceptable. Even racist parents can't expose their children to racism anymore out of fear that the child will say something damning to his family in public.
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Racism is dying down as a result of it becoming more and more socially unacceptable. Even racist parents can't expose their children to racism anymore out of fear that the child will say something damning to his family in public.
I think this is the best description so far. I think there's a generation gap now in racism here. Kids my age wont just let someone get away with being openly racist in any social situation, that person can go find racist friends. Racism was a completely different issue for my parents generation, IMO.

But, this is coming from someone in the city in the midwest, and I'm not saying things are like this everywhere. America is a big place.
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Way off MCat. Nobody grows up not knowing black people anymore because of integration. White kids looking up to rappers is just a phase they go through, for the most part I don't think is a good thing. I don't think it's good for black kids either.

Racism is dying down as a result of it becoming more and more socially unacceptable. Even racist parents can't expose their children to racism anymore out of fear that the child will say something damning to his family in public.
First bold part: I'm 23 years old, and until I was 14 years old, I'd had a conversation with one black person in my lifetime because there was only one black kid in my elementary school of ~500 and the only friends of my family were white. In high school, out of an average population of ~1200-1400 students, there were less than 10 black students there at any given time. When I was 20 and moved to Raleigh, out of ~60 employees at a computer store I worked at, I was one of two white employees not counting managers (there were seven managers, six of which were white, one was black). It wasn't until I moved to one of the three biggest cities in the state in 2005 that I was frequently around black people.

Second bold part: Maybe I'm sort of a minority in the group of white kids who listen to rap since I started listening to rap when I was ~4th grade (and still do) but I've never exactly looked up to rappers in the role model sense.

Third bold part: I'm pretty sure that when parents are talking openly and loudly about "those goddamn spear-chucking sumbitches" in a full restaurant referring to a black waitress, and nobody has a problem with it, that this doesn't really apply to that region. I agree that overall racism and other similar behaviors (anti-gay ppl for example) might be dying down a bit, but I highly doubt it's at as high of a pace as the tone of most of you guys' posts suggests.
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My experience is similar. I knew one black person before junior high, and I only met any black people after that because I was on the track team and we traveled to other areas that weren't completely white.

Pankfish, there are huge parts of the country where people grow up pretty much only knowing other white people. I'm guessing you've never been to those places.
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wat?
Yeah that's wtf I said.
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you aren't refrencing that poor detroit kid that watched his mom die are you?
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you aren't refrencing that poor detroit kid that watched his mom die are you?
Explain? This sounds interesting.
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refering the US being less racist cuz we look up to rappers and famous athletes.

maybe black people do not only want to be respected for their athletic ability and ability to make good music.
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refering the US being less racist cuz we look up to rappers and famous athletes.

maybe black people do not only want to be respected for their athletic ability and ability to make good music.
bingo.

and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp. Beyond that they are just entertainment figures. This has been the case for a long time, so it doesnt really prove that racism is receding. Also this country is huge, and the social intricacies are very complex. So no one anecdote is really going to hold any water.

I think this sums up racism in america: We've come a long way, but we've still got a long way to go.
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and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp. Beyond that rational people think this urban gangsta culture is devastating to their civil rights cause
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and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp. Beyond that rational people think this urban gangsta culture is devastating to their civil rights cause
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and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp. Beyond that rational people think this urban gangsta culture is devastating to their civil rights cause
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Which is why the government created rap.
you heard about this too? do you have any good sources for it? i would like to read up about it. i wasnt going to say anything about it cause i dont know how true it is, but since you brought it up...
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and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp. Beyond that rational people think this urban gangsta culture is devastating to their civil rights cause
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Which is why the government created rap.
you heard about this too? do you have any good sources for it? i would like to read up about it. i wasnt going to say anything about it cause i dont know how true it is, but since you brought it up...
I just said it because it's the type of thing euphoricism likes to argue against, so I was providing fuel.

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and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp. Beyond that rational people think this urban gangsta culture is devastating to their civil rights cause
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Which is why the government created rap.
you heard about this too? do you have any good sources for it? i would like to read up about it. i wasnt going to say anything about it cause i dont know how true it is, but since you brought it up...
I just said it because it's the type of thing euphoricism likes to argue against, so I was providing fuel.

Given things I've read about concerning how they hired hookers to slip shit into their john's drinks and let people observe the effects it had on the "client" through a two-way glass from de-classified documents, it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit.
lol i was just leveling. i knew you werent serious.
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refering the US being less racist cuz we look up to rappers and famous athletes.

maybe black people do not only want to be respected for their athletic ability and ability to make good music.
bingo.

and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp.
This is so obviously not true, must be a level right?
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ugh, here comes another debate about race.
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refering the US being less racist cuz we look up to rappers and famous athletes.

maybe black people do not only want to be respected for their athletic ability and ability to make good music.
bingo.

and not only that, no one really looks up to black rappers and athletes except black people and younger people ftmp.
This is so obviously not true, must be a level right?
You're doing a lot of disagreeing for not living in the area being discussed.
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You're doing a lot of disagreeing for not living in the area being discussed.
Well he's saying the only ones who look up to (black) professional athletes are kids.. just who goes to watch your sports?
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You're doing a lot of disagreeing for not living in the area being discussed.
Well he's saying the only ones who look up to (black) professional athletes are kids.. just who goes to watch your sports?

I like watching guys get hit in the nuts on blooper reels, but that doesn't mean I look up to them.
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You're doing a lot of disagreeing for not living in the area being discussed.
Well he's saying the only ones who look up to (black) professional athletes are kids.. just who goes to watch your sports?

I like watching guys get hit in the nuts on blooper reels, but that doesn't mean I look up to them.
To make the argument a bit easier, let's take an example. Michael Jordan. The only people in the US who look (or looked) up to him, are kids (and other black people). Is that what you're saying?
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You're doing a lot of disagreeing for not living in the area being discussed.
Well he's saying the only ones who look up to (black) professional athletes are kids.. just who goes to watch your sports?

I like watching guys get hit in the nuts on blooper reels, but that doesn't mean I look up to them.
To make the argument a bit easier, let's take an example. Michael Jordan. The only people in the US who look (or looked) up to him, are kids (and other black people). Is that what you're saying?

Yes. don't get me wrong. He is envied because of his athletic ability and monies by adults.

When you are kids you look up to athletes because you want to be a pro basketball player. The older you get the the more realistic you get about the situation so there is less and less reason to look up to them.
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Imo racism is switching its focus more than it is dying down. Racism is about finding a group to use as a scapegoat for the things that are shit about most peoples lives. Right now brown people are much easier (and more useful) scapegoats than black people for a bunch of reasons so racism is more directed towards them.
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Imo racism is switching its focus more than it is dying down. Racism is about finding a group to use as a scapegoat for the things that are shit about most peoples lives. Right now brown people are much easier (and more useful) scapegoats than black people for a bunch of reasons so racism is more directed towards them.
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I don't really get racism though, it seems to me to be pointless in every sense and reason.
Obv not "get" as in "i wanna be a racist" but "get" as in "why would you hate person x who never did anything against you personally?".
Simple hate for a given minority "because" is stupid and time-wasting, IMO.
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not trying to jump over you, but really, what is that supposed to mean? it just doesnt make sense to me.
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not trying to jump over you, but really, what is that supposed to mean? it just doesnt make sense to me.
what do you interpret it as?
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Union over division, love over war. The world is such a perfect place if we allow it to be.
not trying to jump over you, but really, what is that supposed to mean? it just doesnt make sense to me.
what do you interpret it as?
i think what you mean is that if we let everyone live their lives than we would have a perfect world. in other words, no war ever= perfect world.

yeah that sounds really nice and sweet, but unfortunately, its not reality, and it never will be reality. like, when i read a statement like that i think to myself, is this person under the impression that war is new? i dont think that about you, but the thought did cross my mind.
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Whatever. It's their place of business, they can serve/not serve any one they see fit. Racism? Yeah, it plays a part. But there are other factors as well, although that I don't care to jump in the fire here.
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Whatever. It's their place of business, they can serve/not serve any one they see fit. Racism? Yeah, it plays a part. But there are other factors as well, although that I don't care to jump in the fire here.
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This thread is stupid spoon....

Why would a restaurant serve a black person?


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