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11-19-2009, 12:02 AM
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lol, for some reason that never gets old to me, probably never will
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WAHHHHHHHHH THE FIRST GUY TO EVER HANDBALL AND GET AWAY WITH IT. MARADONA AND MESSI ARE SO DISAPPOINTED WITH HENRY
Henry is the man
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The media reaction over here has been way over the top. Shit happens. Learn to live with it.
Don't recall the same fuss when Henry scored for Barcelona V Rangers with his arm in the Champions League.
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its funny.. this is cheating, but when a facemask isnt called in (american) football its just a bad ref. Like do they expect the guy to say "hey, wait, nope, that was a handball. Yep, touched the ball with my hand."
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At the press conference after, Henry admitted it was a handball but said it's not his job to call it, his job is to play the ball and let the ref handle the calls. Ask the ref what happened. Class act as always, Henry.
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Class act as always, Henry.
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sarcasm?
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No, I love Henry. He's one of the best athletes I've had the pleasure of watching in the last two decades.
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His stock has clearly dwindled though.
FIFA also stand idly by because they want the biggest teams in the tournament because they make more money that way.
Henry, at the least, should be punished retrospectively. That's what happens when someone gets punched etc. so I don't see the difference.
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wait, so Henry got caught breaking a rule, the ref didn't call it, and you wanna punish Henry? It's not illegal if you don't get caught.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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http://twitter.com/Thierry_Henry
Worst. Apology. Ever.
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just cause the ref don't see it its not cheating???
They should throw him out of the comp.
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its like Maradonna and his hand of god. Saw a doc where all these Argies were saying "he picked the pocket of the English" and basically nothing wrong with it. delude themselves.
As far as I concerned they didn't win the world cup and Maradonna is a cheat. Shame cause he was a great player, but he'll all ways be remembered as being a cheating bastard.
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This happens frequently in professional sports.
What doesn't happen frequently - is the player admitting that the ref fucked it up and the player got away with it... which is what Henry did.
How can you possibly put Henry in the wrong? If the ref caught it - Henry would be penalized and it wouldn't be called a cheat. What was he supposed to do? Plead a guilty case to the ref?
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errrrrrrrrrr not handball it and then pass the ball to score a goal???/
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Originally Posted by WillburForce
just cause the ref don't see it its not cheating???
They should throw him out of the comp.
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lol, it's a game. It's not a bloodsport played by gods on the holy fields of high valor and virtue.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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errrrrrrrrrr not handball it and then pass the ball to score a goal???/
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Miss calls happen every single game in every single team sport. You cannot come down on Henry based on the significance of the missed call.
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LOL @ twitter expectations. Sorry he couldn't fit a proper response into 144 characters.
You guys are being a little ridiculous here.
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Twitter is not a vehicle for anything, that's entirely my point.
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Twitter is not a vehicle for anything, that's entirely my point.
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You think Henry relied on Twitter as his primary source of explanation?
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i don't get why people put it on the ref and call it a "miss-call".
Henry deliberatly handled the ball and therefore is a cheat.
What if I dealt of the bottom of the pack and won some money of you at poker, but you or the floor manager didn't see it??? Is that cheating?
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i don't get why people put it on the ref and call it a "miss-call".
Henry deliberatly handled the ball and therefore is a cheat.
What if I dealt of the bottom of the pack and won some money of you at poker, but you or the floor manager didn't see it??? Is that cheating?
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Henry cheated, not sure if anyone said he didn't.
Willbur, have you played in many league-run sports?
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I play football to a reasonaly high standard and I don't cheat.
I hate the players and fans who think you should win at any cost. He has robbed Ireland of place in the world cup and he has done it by cheating. What possible defence does he has? He should be banned from the game for a while, then maybe players won't do it again.
I notice Henry has said he thinks it should be replayed. After FIFA have said it won't be replayed. Horse & Bolted.
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It's fucking bullshit that the goal counted. I can sympathize because I felt the same way towards Brett Hull when his skate was in the crease vs Hasek and the Sabres.
But nobody said that Hull was a fucking cheating bastard that should be suspended. It's because he is not to blame - it's the ref that is to blame.
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lol @ this whole thing
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It's fucking bullshit that the goal counted. I can sympathize because I felt the same way towards Brett Hull when his skate was in the crease vs Hasek and the Sabres.
But nobody said that Hull was a fucking cheating bastard that should be suspended. It's because he is not to blame - it's the ref that is to blame.
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I don't know about Ice hockey so can't comment on above, but I just don't get how its the refs fault.
they can't see everything and players have to take responsibility. The ref didn't use his hand to control the ball. Henry did...
and the only way to stop is to ban players that do it. much like diving. Ban the cheats then other would be cheats might think twice befoire doing it.
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Same old Arsenal.......
Probably going to stick some notes on the frogs winning the World Cup now as that is what this handball will probably lead to just like '86.
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i now understand why the brits suck at ice hockey.
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they can't see everything and players have to take responsibility.
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Why have refs then? If all players took responsibility for illegal actions on the field - there would be no need for anyone else on the pitch. Same goes with strikes in baseball, traveling in basketball, and penalties in hockey.
Taking responsibility for improper play is a really silly idea because it's not within our instincts to do so in sport.
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It's fucking bullshit that the goal counted. I can sympathize because I felt the same way towards Brett Hull when his skate was in the crease vs Hasek and the Sabres.
But nobody said that Hull was a fucking cheating bastard that should be suspended. It's because he is not to blame - it's the ref that is to blame.
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I don't know about Ice hockey so can't comment on above, but I just don't get how its the refs fault.
they can't see everything and players have to take responsibility. The ref didn't use his hand to control the ball. Henry did...
and the only way to stop is to ban players that do it. much like diving. Ban the cheats then other would be cheats might think twice befoire doing it. |
Willburforce,your letting emotion get you worked up and thinking irrationally. Handball is just a rule like any other rule. It didn't harm a person or injure a player. Do you think just because he broke a rule he should be suspended? If he was offside and the ref missed it would that mean he should be suspended? If He tackles a player and the ref doesn't call it, should he be suspended? Pushing the envelope is what professional athletes do, they are competitive at all costs or there wouldn't be pro sports just a bunch of kids playing for fun. He didn't cheat, cheater take steroids or use illegal equipment. He broke a rule, and that is the refs job to enforce the rules.
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lol@ this being cheating, I don't know anything about Henry's past, but soccer fans calling anything cheating is ridiculous. Your sport is the saddest display of unsportmanship-like conduct and BS-acting I have ever seen, and you should thank your lucky starts that it gets as much attention as it does.
re: players taking responsibility, Are you fucking serious? The refs job is to call the games, and Henry cannot operate under the assumption that the Irish nat'l team would call the hand-ball on themselves. Ref missed a call, tough break, it happens in every major sport every day. The only reason this got as much publicity as it did is because it happened in the middle of a slow week in sports.
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According to Willbur's logic, some players from every team from every game should be suspended for cheating.
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lol i can just see an offensive lineman, after their rb scores a td, go up to the ref and say "sorry, i was actually holding and you didn't see it, call it back plz"
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i don't get why people put it on the ref and call it a "miss-call".
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Yeah totally! I mean, the ref has to worry about doing his own job.
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This happens frequently in professional sports.
What doesn't happen frequently - is the player admitting that the ref fucked it up and the player got away with it... which is what Henry did.
How can you possibly put Henry in the wrong? If the ref caught it - Henry would be penalized and it wouldn't be called a cheat. What was he supposed to do? Plead a guilty case to the ref?
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I lol'd. So Henry was a big man for blaming the ref.
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wait, so Henry got caught breaking a rule, the ref didn't call it, and you wanna punish Henry? It's not illegal if you don't get caught.
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There have been plenty of cases of violent conduct caught on film but not by the ref and the authorities have punished the player retrospectively. I see no difference here.
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This happens frequently in professional sports.
What doesn't happen frequently - is the player admitting that the ref fucked it up and the player got away with it... which is what Henry did.
How can you possibly put Henry in the wrong? If the ref caught it - Henry would be penalized and it wouldn't be called a cheat. What was he supposed to do? Plead a guilty case to the ref?
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I lol'd. So Henry was a big man for blaming the ref. |
You lol'd because he didn't claim anywhere that Henry was a big man for blaming the ref and merely implied Henry was no different from any pro sports player? No pro athlete would ever call themselves for an infraction and a they all try to see what they can get away with.
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There have been plenty of cases of violent conduct caught on film but not by the ref and the authorities have punished the player retrospectively. I see no difference here.
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You see no difference between someone potentially injuring another human being or even ending their career and someone putting their hand on a ball?
You can't seriously think games would be better off with the true winner being decided after wards by a committee. You might as well rewrite the history of professional sports.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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wait, so Henry got caught breaking a rule, the ref didn't call it, and you wanna punish Henry? It's not illegal if you don't get caught.
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There have been plenty of cases of violent conduct caught on film but not by the ref and the authorities have punished the player retrospectively. I see no difference here. |
lol, ok.
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wait, so Henry got caught breaking a rule, the ref didn't call it, and you wanna punish Henry? It's not illegal if you don't get caught.
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There have been plenty of cases of violent conduct caught on film but not by the ref and the authorities have punished the player retrospectively. I see no difference here. |
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haha c'mon kevster that is ridiculous
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Ok, point taken but I didn't mean they are literally the same offence.
What I'm saying is that if the authorities act retrospectively and ban players for some things (there are plenty, not just violent conduct) then it should also cover this.
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Ok, point taken but I didn't mean they are literally the same offence.
What I'm saying is that if the authorities act retrospectively and ban players for some things (there are plenty, not just violent conduct) then it should also cover this.
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start retrospective banning for blatant diving, deliberate handballs that result in goals, voilent conduct eetc etc and we can start getting shizzle like this out of the game.
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