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Old 10-27-2008, 09:38 PM     Post subject: Guitar Zeros #1 (permalink)  
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero. it's prolly fun if youre wasted with friends but thats it
 
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero. it's prolly fun if youre wasted with friends but thats it
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero. it's prolly fun if youre wasted with friends but thats it
did you actually watch the video? they've turned the controller into a real instrument.
 
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:37 AM #6 (permalink)  
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero. it's prolly fun if youre wasted with friends but thats it
did you actually watch the video? they've turned the controller into a real instrument.
Does it simulate the heroine addiction though?

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Old 10-28-2008, 01:12 AM #7 (permalink)  
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero. it's prolly fun if youre wasted with friends but thats it
this is the stupidest shit ever. I steal cars and shoot people in the face and bang hookers, but I do not look down on people playing GTA it is just a game.

Guitar Hero isnt taking away from anything you do. lol
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:18 AM #8 (permalink)  
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero.
Makes me sick to think that we may never have the next Clapton because he may be wasting his life playing this shit instead of learning to play an actual guitar.
 
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:19 AM #9 (permalink)  
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero. it's prolly fun if youre wasted with friends but thats it
did you actually watch the video? they've turned the controller into a real instrument.
Even worse imo.
 
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:22 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:34 AM #11 (permalink)  
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero.
Makes me sick to think that we may never have the next Clapton because he may be wasting his life playing this shit instead of learning to play an actual guitar.
Come on... I know some people who never even considered playing a real guitar that played GH, and THEN went on to play the "real thing"... What makes you so sure that the "next Clapton" would stop at the video game?
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:41 AM #12 (permalink)  
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:49 AM #14 (permalink)  
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For everyone that is hating on Guitar Hero, have you actaully sat down and played the game for more than 2 minutes?
It's actually super addicting and lots of fun.

I know that it sounds like a completely retarted concept (I thought so too until like 2 weeks ago), but I bought it for my gf and play it more than her now lol.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:48 AM #16 (permalink)  

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guitar is nice to listen but hard to play, love the music by guitar
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:48 PM #17 (permalink)  
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I tried to stay away from this topic but have had to relent considering the responses.

When it comes to poker, I am not, in the grand scheme of things, very good – hence my posts tend to be questions rather than authoritive answers. However, when it comes to the guitar, I truly am World Class. I was pro up to a few years ago and my development was as meteoric as the online poker kid who turns $100 into $500,000 in 3 months. Imagine the talent of Ivey coupled with the self belief of Hellmuth.

I honestly don't believe there is anybody better and I am so far ahead of the masses that I avoid talking about guitar issues because, like in poker, the vast majority haven't got a fucking clue and I am so far beyond them that they can't even comprehend their own failings let alone my level.

Most of my time on You Tube is watching guitar videos and 99.9% are utter dross. I've witnessed just 3 World Class guitarists who are on my level yet these other muppets, as terrible as the auditionees on American Idol, are getting 5 star ratings and comments of "you're awesome!". Reality checks and advice (usually friendly/sometimes not so) are ignored and thrown back by people – be they terribad or even moderately competent - with the glaring deficiency to comprehend.

Such videos/reactions/inability to comprehend make me feel disheartened - sometimes rarely, occasionally or often. But they always make me feel uber fucking talented! And so It is with rare authority that I make this post.

Rather than bemoan the fact it's not real musicianship, applaud the fact that the kids are being bombarded with real music - crafted and performed by musicians - rather than the glorified karaoke contest winners and manufactured boy/girl bands (most of whom can't sing a note but rely on studio equipment to make them even vaguely listenable. And I am personally happy because it's 80's heavy rock that's getting it's time back on the airwaves. That's perfect music to me: combining heaviness with catchy melody, Olympian level musicianship and a desire to play live

Many will go on to try the guitar – just as play money poker players transferred to cash. Many will give up, as with any hobby. Many will be average. All will have an over inflated sense of ability. And just 0.0007% of us will be right in that self assessment. But so what? It’s exposure to good music and, better yet, to good ethics – learn, persevere, improve, create – all of which have been overlooked in the modern era of instant gratification and overnight success where having the right “look” for a certain demographic is more valuable than any inherent musical ability; and where a good voice can be rewarded with professional styling, marketing, production & song writing.

This is the age where people are made into stars rather than becoming them. “Just roll up and we’ll do the rest” is the modern day mantra. Time served experience: learning, playing, practising, performing is viewed with aghast. You've seen them here at FTR too. And who can blame them when they don’t need an idea about anything, or have learnt through trial and error how to create good music, stage moves & lyrics when they can have someone else do it for them. Especially if they get on a reality TV show?

The next Clapton will play the guitar regardless of Guitar Hero. Maybe even because of it. To be the next real Guitar Hero there has to be that passion, interest and desire for music and for the instrument and it won’t be placated by a games console. The next Clapton may not make it through. He may give up after 6 months like the majority of noobs but he will still pick up a real guitar, sit down in his bedroom and play. And that is only ever a good thing.

I don’t understand it’s appeal and I don’t want to play it.

But long live Guitar Hero!
 
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:32 PM #18 (permalink)  
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I play guitar, and have played guitar hero and it's actually kinda fun. It teaches rhythm at least, which is something most bedroom guitarists lack.

I also play drums/bass & sing, and I'd have to say that the mic and drums of rock band are the ones that are closest to the real thing, which is probably why people who can't sing or play drums have trouble with em'.

What these guys did is kinda cool fer sure. But it's just a novelty & my practical side questions the merits of learning an instrument that's so limited in so many ways relative to a real guitar. They got themselves a cool shtick tho so wutevah
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as an avid guitarist i have so much disdain for guitar hero. it's prolly fun if youre wasted with friends but thats it
this is the stupidest shit ever. I steal cars and shoot people in the face and bang hookers, but I do not look down on people playing GTA it is just a game.

Guitar Hero isnt taking away from anything you do. lol
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I tried to stay away from this topic but have had to relent considering the responses.

When it comes to poker, I am not, in the grand scheme of things, very good – hence my posts tend to be questions rather than authoritive answers. However, when it comes to the guitar, I truly am World Class. I was pro up to a few years ago and my development was as meteoric as the online poker kid who turns $100 into $500,000 in 3 months. Imagine the talent of Ivey coupled with the self belief of Hellmuth.

I honestly don't believe there is anybody better and I am so far ahead of the masses that I avoid talking about guitar issues because, like in poker, the vast majority haven't got a fucking clue and I am so far beyond them that they can't even comprehend their own failings let alone my level.

Most of my time on You Tube is watching guitar videos and 99.9% are utter dross. I've witnessed just 3 World Class guitarists who are on my level yet these other muppets, as terrible as the auditionees on American Idol, are getting 5 star ratings and comments of "you're awesome!". Reality checks and advice (usually friendly/sometimes not so) are ignored and thrown back by people – be they terribad or even moderately competent - with the glaring deficiency to comprehend.

Such videos/reactions/inability to comprehend make me feel disheartened - sometimes rarely, occasionally or often. But they always make me feel uber fucking talented! And so It is with rare authority that I make this post.

Rather than bemoan the fact it's not real musicianship, applaud the fact that the kids are being bombarded with real music - crafted and performed by musicians - rather than the glorified karaoke contest winners and manufactured boy/girl bands (most of whom can't sing a note but rely on studio equipment to make them even vaguely listenable. And I am personally happy because it's 80's heavy rock that's getting it's time back on the airwaves. That's perfect music to me: combining heaviness with catchy melody, Olympian level musicianship and a desire to play live

Many will go on to try the guitar – just as play money poker players transferred to cash. Many will give up, as with any hobby. Many will be average. All will have an over inflated sense of ability. And just 0.0007% of us will be right in that self assessment. But so what? It’s exposure to good music and, better yet, to good ethics – learn, persevere, improve, create – all of which have been overlooked in the modern era of instant gratification and overnight success where having the right “look” for a certain demographic is more valuable than any inherent musical ability; and where a good voice can be rewarded with professional styling, marketing, production & song writing.

This is the age where people are made into stars rather than becoming them. “Just roll up and we’ll do the rest” is the modern day mantra. Time served experience: learning, playing, practising, performing is viewed with aghast. You've seen them here at FTR too. And who can blame them when they don’t need an idea about anything, or have learnt through trial and error how to create good music, stage moves & lyrics when they can have someone else do it for them. Especially if they get on a reality TV show?

The next Clapton will play the guitar regardless of Guitar Hero. Maybe even because of it. To be the next real Guitar Hero there has to be that passion, interest and desire for music and for the instrument and it won’t be placated by a games console. The next Clapton may not make it through. He may give up after 6 months like the majority of noobs but he will still pick up a real guitar, sit down in his bedroom and play. And that is only ever a good thing.

I don’t understand it’s appeal and I don’t want to play it.

But long live Guitar Hero!
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few by tim. greatest guitarist ive ever heard and its not close. if you listen to all his solo stuff as well as stuff with dave matthews you'll find is skill, improvisation, and dynamics unequaled.

ive been playing a handful of his songs for a long time now, and only the really easy ones can i make sound good. of course to me good = perfect
 
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