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Every other thread I've read here has been "Oh Obama can I suck your balls, I love you!", this is not one.
I completely agree that anyone is better that our current commander in chief. But after watching interviews and listening to phone calls on different networks I realized that 70% of voters who voted for Obama had no idea why they voted for him. It was amazing to see our country unite and come out for an extraordinary amount of voters in this election but there was also a mass of uneducated voters who really swung this election with reasoning like "I want to see the black guy win" or "because I want change". Ask those same people what changes they are looking forward to and they immediately turn into mumbling bafoons. Why? Because in the 2 years Obama has been campaigning he hasnt revealed much about his changes. HOPE!! CHANGE!! YADA YADA!! He is the absolute best at saying nothing that I've ever heard.
As for the race thing, I couldnt care less. It's amazing our kids and grandkids won't have to grow up in a society where having a black man in power is so taboo.
What worries me most is his affiliations. A phone call on C-SPAN last night had a young African-American man stating " whoever keeps talking about Obama being a terrorist is ignant" (<--see the irony)
Everyone in America should be aware of who William Aires is by now, and if you don't he was a member of the weather underground who bombed the Pentagon and openly stated he wished more people had of been killed in the twin towers. If things couldn't get worse he is a longtime associate and dear friend of our president elect. Barrack states he was only 7 when they were associated and this happened and didnt know he was a terrorist but I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. Obama's political coming out party was held in the living room of who? Ding Ding Ding, William Aires. His excuse, "I didn't know!"
What else don't you know?
His pastor for 20+ years Reverend Wright you know the guy who has been recorded saying "NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA, GODDAMN AMERICA!!" and the rest of his anti america slander. What's Obama's excuse of his association with him? "bibbity bee I didnt know it was going on"
SON OF A BITCH!!
What else dont you know?
Affiliations with ACORN and voter fraud. That's right, the entire Dallas Cowboys squad was registerd to vote in Colorado. By the end of this his ACORN group will be indicted in about 26 states due to voter fraud. Why? Because Mickey Mouse is not a fucking U.S. citizen and should not be a registered Democrat voting for Obama! What did Obama say? "I didn't know"
MOTHERFUCKER GODDAMMIT!
What else don't you know?
We are dealing with Jimmy Carter Jr. here and he will recieve 1 term and he's done. In my opinion he will fuck so much shit up that in 4 years America will be begging for someone else.
So thanks to all the uneducated voters of America who couldnt take 2 hours to really read up on issues and how this election will affect our lives, jobs, and country. Because when your Almighty Obama starts taxing the shit out of businesses making 250k+ and they outsource more jobs (because face it, they are GOING to make money) leaving you broke, hungry, sitting at home in a mustard stained wife beater watching Price is Right you are going to realize this was not the "change" you wanted. You have fucked Lady America in the ass and didnt have the common courtesy to use any KY!
I hope he proves me wrong during his term but until then i am going to be living in a hole!
WELCOME TO SOCIALISM AMERICA!!!
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I didn't read any of it. But part A is that a lot of what you say is the other side of the coin. People who like to know enough to rant as loud as they can and stay one step above "the uneducated masses." Watch less Fox News plz.
And part B, this is how elections work. 50% of the people that would vote the OTHER way would vote because Obama is a terrorist. Just take solace in the fact that more uneducated people voted for Obama this time.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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Obama actually made huge inroads in college-educated, white voters, while less educated whites broke for McCain. If you only spent 2 hours reading up on the issues, then you obviously never got much further than the Drudge Report.
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Squeaky, as I see it, the republicans made two huge blunders in this campaign. First was the choice of Sarah Palin for VP. Sure, that ticket got a nice, temporary ratings boost from it but it proved to be the dagger down the stretch. The obvious goal was to energize the religious right (who are going to vote republican regardless!) but the end result was that it alienated too many moderate, sensible people.
The second reason (of course there are many more.. I'm just focusing on the election strategy) is embodied pefectly in your post. Hate, hate, hate, and more hate. The entire GOP strategy revolved around attacking the character and subtlety attacking the background and race of Barack Obama. After a certain point, people just called BS and saw right through it. That's how I see it anyway, so take it fwiw.
Look, I have my fair share of disagreements with traditional democratic principles (then again, I can say the same thing about the republicans), but I think Barack Obama is a good man and is going to make a good leader. And even if you didn't vote for him, we're still better off if you support him.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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How is voting for elusive "change" any more ridiculous than voting Republican because your dad, your trailer park, your state is Republican too?
And why is it so bad to not view America in a shining light? 'God bless America' is a horrendously overused and jingoistic phrase that is hammered home and thus regurgitated without question. Every nation has done both good and bad. Especially the superpowers & empires: Roman, British, Spanish and now American. The USA is an empire in all but name. Those who buy into blind naivety & ignorance (masquerading as patriotism) are severely off tangent.
All superpowers have used their power for good and for self serving at the expense of others. Being able to look at one self honestly, even if that means castigating where appropriate, is never bad. Yet many, if not most, Americans will get all indignant - and through a knee jerk, Pavlovian reaction not reason - at the the sheer audacity of not automatically and unquestioningly swinging from the nation's nuts. To do so would be to not act free but as McCarthy-esque propaganda would have you believe those bastard Commies do.
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11-05-2008, 10:02 PM
Post subject: Re: GG America: Warning (long right wing rant)
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he will recieve 1 term and he's done. In my opinion he will fuck so much shit up that in 4 years America will be begging for someone else.
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This would've happen if Mccain won as well. At least now, the blame will be put in socialism where it belongs when all is over. Obama was probably the better long term choice.
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There is some chance that my company will get shut down in 18 months or so (not related to 250k+ tax) because of Obama's potential policies and I'm still happy with the choice.
He won because he started from the ground up, instead of starting with the highest bidder. This is the kind of change I want to see because the current system is completely fucked.
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newsflash: most people are dumb, democrats and republicans included
And reiterating the lame (and baseless) talking points McCain used makes you look very ignant
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How is voting for elusive "change" any more ridiculous than voting Republican because your dad, your trailer park, your state is Republican too?
And why is it so bad to not view America in a shining light? 'God bless America' is a horrendously overused and jingoistic phrase that is hammered home and thus regurgitated without question. Every nation has done both good and bad. Especially the superpowers & empires: Roman, British, Spanish and now American. The USA is an empire in all but name. Those who buy into blind naivety & ignorance (masquerading as patriotism) are severely off tangent.
All superpowers have used their power for good and for self serving at the expense of others. Being able to look at one self honestly, even if that means castigating where appropriate, is never bad. Yet many, if not most, Americans will get all indignant - and through a knee jerk, Pavlovian reaction not reason - at the the sheer audacity of not automatically and unquestioningly swinging from the nation's nuts. To do so would be to not act free but as McCarthy-esque propaganda would have you believe those bastard Commies do. |
I think this proves you aren't REALLY retarded.
Edit: I just remembered you're English so it doesn't mean as much but amen still.
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newsflash: most people are dumb, democrats and republicans included
And reiterating the lame (and baseless) talking points McCain used makes you look very ignant
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I don't think you can put this on McCain.. infact I remember very clearly McCain sticking up for Obama and vouching for his integrity.
Instead, I think the blame lies with the republican party in general.
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If things couldn't get worse he is a longtime associate and dear friend of our president elect.
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newsflash: most people are dumb, democrats and republicans included
And reiterating the lame (and baseless) talking points McCain used makes you look very ignant
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I don't think you can put this on McCain.. infact I remember very clearly McCain sticking up for Obama and vouching for his integrity.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Im suprised he didn't give his acceptance speech! Guy basically thinks for him!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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11-06-2008, 12:43 AM
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Oh Obama can I suck your balls, I love you!
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11-06-2008, 12:45 AM
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But after watching interviews and listening to phone calls on different networks I realized that 70% of voters who voted for Obama had no idea why they voted for him.
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Other than the fact that you just made up stats, whatever the real number is, its a safe bet that the same proportion of people who voted for McCain would also have no idea why.
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But after watching interviews and listening to phone calls on different networks I realized that 70% of voters who voted for Obama had no idea why they voted for him.
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Other than the fact that you just made up stats, whatever the real number is, its a safe bet that the same proportion of people who voted for McCain would also have no idea why. |
68% of stats are made up or exagerated 41% of the time!
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Squeaky, as I see it, the republicans made two huge blunders in this campaign. First was the choice of Sarah Palin for VP. Sure, that ticket got a nice, temporary ratings boost from it but it proved to be the dagger down the stretch. The obvious goal was to energize the religious right (who are going to vote republican regardless!) but the end result was that it alienated too many moderate, sensible people.
The second reason (of course there are many more.. I'm just focusing on the election strategy) is embodied pefectly in your post. Hate, hate, hate, and more hate. The entire GOP strategy revolved around attacking the character and subtlety attacking the background and race of Barack Obama. After a certain point, people just called BS and saw right through it. That's how I see it anyway, so take it fwiw.
Look, I have my fair share of disagreements with traditional democratic principles (then again, I can say the same thing about the republicans), but I think Barack Obama is a good man and is going to make a good leader. And even if you didn't vote for him, we're still better off if you support him.
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Wow, reading the OP was like watching fox news on repeat.
Question: Do morons know they're stupid and post their opinions anyway hoping for validation that they're not stupid or are they too dumb to know?
Random thought, nothing to do with this thread whatsoever, nothing at all to do with this thread at all, absolutely nothing to do with OP, nope, not at all, nope nope nope.
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the only thing i think is off is people's belief that the rich are really going to get taxed. even if they pass legislation increasing taxes, the rich will just find ways out of it. tax law is catered to the rich, which is why most of the tax burden falls onto the middle class. dont believe me, take a look at real estate taxation. there's a reason why alot of wealthy people invest in real estate. its the easiest way to increase wealth tax free.
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Completely agree about the large amount of uneducated voters.
Nothing anyone can do about it. The Democrats played it perfectly, they deserved to win. It's not about the issues, b/c, Obama wasn't about the issues. Obama offers "change" and "hope" to the American people. That's what people need right now, not change or hope, but the potential for change or hope or whatever. The Republicans did a horrid job in finding someone who could match Obama's charm/wit/youth and that's what cost them.
I'm not a Repbulican or Democrat, hell, I didn't even vote, but from a marketing/sales standpoint the Democrats just put out a flashier, nicer looking product, and that's what sells.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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this. and, when the economy is in the crapper, people vote change. when its fine, people vote to stay the same.
since tv and JFK, the presidency has been about pretty boys first. then, how are things RIGHT NOW. americans are extremely short-sighted and have terrible memories. see: any war since Vietnam, any tax rebate sent out in cash to spur the economy, and several other things i cant remember right now. hmmmm, i may not be short-sighted, but i do have a terrible memory. maybe i'm only half american?
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
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You're both wrong. The dems put out a nicer looking product because it was a better product.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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since tv and JFK, the presidency has been about pretty boys first.
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You're both wrong. The dems put out a nicer looking product because it was a better product. |
it cant be because. it was nicer looking. thats all he was saying.
all we are saying is that substance doesnt matter. it doesnt get votes. FEEL and APPEAL do.
how else did Bush get in over Gore (its not like bush jr had political experience)? Gore was stiff when speaking. so is McStain. Clinton was a true pretty boy. JFK blew out Nixon because of TV. didnt nixon get in because everyone hated LBJ? carter got in because people hated ford. reagan had smoothness. mondale/ferraro didnt...hence bush sr....lesser of two evils. bush sr out because we didnt like him, and slick willy came along.
it kind of works out. the sexier, smoother guy wins...especially when we hate the current regime.
talk about substance all you want. we would all like to believe it wins. but, substance doesnt win, or thats what the debates would be about....actual issues. instead its "just try and dodge the question and win the popularity contest." speaking of...when was the last ugly, fat dork to win "most popular" in high school?
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I don't doubt your point about substance - just look at how advertising has been the key decider in the past 20 years - but you make a big statement about pretty boys and fail to back it up. Your only example was a greying guy with charisma (not looks).
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You're both wrong. The dems put out a nicer looking product because it was a better product. |
it cant be because. it was nicer looking. thats all he was saying.
all we are saying is that substance doesnt matter. it doesnt get votes. FEEL and APPEAL do. |
You're right. And since these election are so steeped in BS and rhetoric, this is the correct way to vote.
My father knows everything there was to know about how bad a candidate Obama was. He was wrong on many issues but it didn't matter. Voters can be as "smart" as they want and still vote by FEEL and APPEAL.
Elections will never be a science and that's a shame. It just so happened that this time the FEEL and APPEAL candidate was the right candidate.
And I didn't vote by FEEL and APPEAL, I voted for a leader who, when not speaking sound bite rhetoric, truely spoke to me and struck accord with that part of my brain that says "Hey, this guy shows evidence of being a great leader!"
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Chopper
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i agree with you, rill. i vote from my head, too. but, hell, i felt the tug of mccain being so stiff and poor speaking that i thought, "wow, how can this guy lead?" it was so bad, i had to keep telling MYself that "speaking is not what matters. decisions matter. getting conflicting sides to come together is what matters. speaking has nothing to do with the job." but, i knew that the general public wouldnt see it that way. oh well. it is what it is and i only have one vote (and we can argue whether it really counts some other time...lol)
thunder, America may be conservative by european standards. but, it is heading farther and farther to the left all the time. the universities, media, urbanites are all winning out slowly but surely. i am conservative by nature because i enjoy freedom (that ought to piss some people in here off). i put more of a parallel on gov't making my decisions about who and what i can and cannot do with socialism/progressivism. (i know both sides do it thanks to religious right and socialist left) and, i dont like it one bit.
but, mccain was liberal as far as republicans are concerned. so, it was rather lose/lose for my peeps anyway.
so, i lost an election. big deal. nothing gets done in this country overnight anyway. too much red tape for action. we've seen a republican congress with a republican president do squat. and, i suspect we will see the same with the democrats. you would need a larger majority than the one we just obtained to see REAL movement, imo. but, we'll see.
and, this is the transition girlfriend anyway. either one was likely "one and done." so, we'll see who people start up with in 2 more years.
in the meantime we CAN say this was a huge step for the US, racially. its good progress towards equality. (i believe that, but dont know what good it does.) and, this is the best thing for our economy (i think Warren Buffet and Bill Gates know more here than i do) and, most importantly.........poker legalization to reopen a little influx of fishies.
my opinion. dont expect it to get a lot of support. dont care either way...lol. have fun discussing.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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sarbox68
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Full House
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how else did Bush get in over Gore
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Because people are stupid, America is predominantly Republican and verry conservative. |
Meh... not true. You forget Gore won the popular vote, but the electoral college system worked against him that time. This time, the EC worked for Obama as evidenced by the fact that he won by a far greater electoral margin than popular vote, altho' he'da won on that too.
I realize conservatism is a scale, and by many Euro standards, our "liberal" is barely to the lib side of center. But you stated "verry conservative" and that's a fallacy I hear repated over and over by outside observers who get their view of the US by what they see on TV and read on the Internet. I've already soapboxed on this before, so won't do it again.
Suffice it that if land mass was the measure of social leanings, then yes, the US would be very conservative. But it's not. And the heavy population centers (west coast, north east) are and have always been very much to the left of our political spectrum.
Also - the dems have been fighting their own demons in trying to put forward a cogent platform that moderates could connect to. They've been as much hijacked by abortion and gay marriage planks as the right has been by guns and jesus. I think they got lucky in that they were forced to focus on foreign affairs and the economy because those were the things going to hell in a planet-sized handbasket. That and an incumbent with lowest approval ratings ever (and a GOP w/ a running mate that could only have appealed to the furthest right fringe of the party...) gave 'em the boost they needed.
I wish 'em the best!
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11-06-2008, 06:09 PM
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His pastor for 20+ years Reverend Wright you know the guy who has been recorded saying "NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA, GODDAMN AMERICA!!" and the rest of his anti america slander. What's Obama's excuse of his association with him?
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Yes, how dare Wright express anything other than complete adoration for the most great, all-powerful, moral and free country in the world! That traitorous dog should be shot for expressing anything but undying love for the Motherland!
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11-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Squeaky_Midget1
His pastor for 20+ years Reverend Wright you know the guy who has been recorded saying "NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA, GODDAMN AMERICA!!" and the rest of his anti america slander. What's Obama's excuse of his association with him?
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How easily we ignore that millions of people a year come to this country for the very right to stand up and say whatever is on their mind. And how quickly we forget the hundreds of thousands that have given life and fortune for our fundamental right to do so.
Calling political free speech slander is the ultimate insult to their sacrifice.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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11-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by Squeaky_Midget1
His pastor for 20+ years Reverend Wright you know the guy who has been recorded saying "NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA, GODDAMN AMERICA!!" and the rest of his anti america slander. What's Obama's excuse of his association with him?
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LOL Fox News
Hook, line and sinker
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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11-06-2008, 06:39 PM
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by Squeaky_Midget1
His pastor for 20+ years Reverend Wright you know the guy who has been recorded saying "NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA, GODDAMN AMERICA!!" and the rest of his anti america slander. What's Obama's excuse of his association with him?
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LOL Fox News
Hook, line and sinker |
Serious post.
How can you possibly put these words together? It's just jaw-dropping.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Warpe
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America is predominantly Republican and verry conservative.
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Part of the story of this election is that this is becoming less and less true. Liberal values are becoming more mainstream with shifting demographics.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Part of the story of this election is that this is becoming less and less true. Liberal values are becoming more mainstream with shifting demographics. |
eh, it's not becoming more Liberal. It's getting tired of being in the middle and having to choose from one side and the other.
Gays can't get married after all.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Warpe
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Interesting reading:
http://www.ourfuture.org/files/z_his...ity_report.pdf
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