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dneureiter
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09-22-2010, 06:24 AM
Post subject: Get rich quick schemes (are bulls**t LDO)
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Ok. so this is kind of random but that's what the commune is for and it puts me on life tilt so hard.
My dad is convinced by these
"hey you!"
"me?"
"yea wanna get magically rich?"
"yea I guess"
"Cool well you don't have to invest anything or have any skills and it's not your fault if you are poor / unhappy / whatev. Also u make $700 / h"
"Sick son, sign me up! for only $xx.xx"
Recently he has discovered the interwebs.. Oh fuck right? So he constantly has me reading this shit. He gets pissed off whenever I doubt his belief in some new heal all medicine or think this type of shit is a scam. Any advice? (I'm kind of just posting this for your entertainment too)
remember a line from somewhere (here?) that if an ad says something IS NOT your fault ... IT IS. ie. It's not your fault you took out a huge loan you couldn't afford. We save you now! type of crap.
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Galapogos
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Tell your dad to email me regarding a large sum of money I have tied up in a bank account which I will need his help in getting released. There will be a substantial reward in it for him for very little effort on his part.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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jyms
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Just wait till he discovers MLM's. My buddies wife that I live with is involved now in the ACN scheme. I don't know how long I can stay here, or keep my mouth shut.
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wiki: (show him some of this stuff)
Popular culture references
- In the 2007 Futurama movie, Bender's Big Score, Professor Farnsworth falls for a Lottery scam after he thought he'd won the lottery by giving away his personal details on the Internet.
- Nerdcore rapper MC Frontalot has written a song (Message No. 419) about the 419 scam on his debut album Nerdcore Rising.
- In the HBO comedy series, Flight of The Conchords episode The New Cup, the band's manager, Murray, uses the band's emergency funds for an investment with a Nigerian, Mr. Nigel Soladu, who promises to offer "1000% profit." However, it turns out that Nigel Soladu is a real person and the investment offer is legitimate. The band receives a 1000% profit, which they use to get bailed out of jail.
- In an episode of NBC series The Office in which Michael Scott tries to sell his subordinates on what he does not realize to be a pyramid scheme, Toby Flenderson asks, "Didn't you lose a lot of money on that other investment? The email?", to which Michael replies, "You know what Toby, when the son of the deposed king of Nigeria emails you directly, asking for help, you help! His father ran the freaking country! Okay?"
- In The Sun Cow episode of the Nickelodeon TV series, Back at the Barnyard, Otis, Pig and Abby received an e-mail from a Nigerian prince requesting for help, to which Abby replies with the farmer's credit card number and stating that the Internet does not lie.
- In a 2009 episode of A&E documentary Intervention, a man habitually gives his family's money away to 419 scammers.
- Two songs promoting advance fee fraud are popula in Nigeria: "I Go Chop Your Dollar - 419 Song" by Osuofia with the chorus "419 is just a game, you are the loser, I am the winner",[90] and "Maga Don Pay" (The victims pay) by Kelly Hansome, with the chorus Maga don pay, shout hallelujah. In response to this song, 9 R&B and rap artists (Banky W, Bez, Cobhams, MI, Modele, Omawumi, Rooftop MCs, The Wordsmith) released the song "Maga No Need Pay". The lyrics and the chorus Maga no need pay for me to buy correct motor, for me to take make my dough explain to the youngsters that they can make a good living and that they will help their country by staying away from advance fee fraud.
- Fela! The Musical makes several references to code 419.
- One of the series featured in webcomic Irregular Webcomic! stars the Nigerian Finance Minister.[91]
- When actress Anne Hathaway hosted Saturday Night Live, her opening monologue included a mention of a Nigerian prince who had e-mailed her requesting her PIN number and a large sum of money.
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Originally Posted by jyms
Just wait till he discovers MLM's. My buddies wife that I live with is involved now in the ACN scheme. I don't know how long I can stay here, or keep my mouth shut.
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about 2 years late; good advice though. meh. Yea it is really quite futile. Either listen to shit that you know is shit or get in argument with someone who doesn't accept logic. It really blows when you are under the same roof.
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Tell your dad to email me regarding a large sum of money I have tied up in a bank account which I will need his help in getting released. There will be a substantial reward in it for him for very little effort on his part.
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wat ur email and please define "large sum."
tnx for links drew.
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My buddies wife that I live with.
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maybe could have been phrased better?
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Originally Posted by jyms
Just wait till he discovers MLM's. My buddies wife that I live with is involved now in the ACN scheme. I don't know how long I can stay here, or keep my mouth shut.
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Oh god MLM... I know a chick who is convinced she is going to be able to retire in 6 months off residual income from "her business" (some MLM bs). It's a shame really, she is an interesting person, but every time we hang out it seems to turn into a business meeting.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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maybe could have been phrased better?
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No I believe he phrased that to sound as awesome as possible.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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maybe could have been phrased better?
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He lives with his buddy's wife.
Don't judge.
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It only takes one that works!!!
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It only takes one that works!!!
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The lottery ticket mantra
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I can only hope that Donald Trump goes to jail for his involvement with the ACN crap.
My brother in-law is jacked up about that "business opportunity" at the moment. He must have spent around $2-3K to date on fees and trips to "conferences". He feels it must be legit if Trumpy is involved.
It's been about 9 months. I think he got a couple of cheques back for $6 so far.
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Originally Posted by jyms
My buddies wife that I live with.
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Originally Posted by bjsaust
It only takes one that works!!!
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it depends
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One of my friend's family is the most back-asswards fundie retard teabagging inbred folk the world has ever known, and I recall hearing how the patriarch of this family got hooked into a scheme where he paid a guy money and received coupons in return. He never got as much in coupons as he gave in money, but it was okay because other people were giving the guy money and receiving coupons too
Some people live Homer Simpson's grease/bacon enterprise quite literally
Oh yeah, and the explanation for the scheme had something to do with the double helix and how DNA is good investment advice or something
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My grandpa buys into this sort of shit all the time too. Every so often he realizes he didn't get his money back out of the last scheme, and quickly finds another. My dad and I used to argue, but eventually gave up.
Now he's almost 90 and is still living off of his Air Force retirement every month.
But his newest business opportunity? It's surely going to pay off!!
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Get hold an episode of "The Real Hustle" (2006) and show him.
Every scheme works on pretty much the same principle. Prey on vulnerable people, get them to see themselves rich and then milk them for all they are worth. Pretty sick IMO.
I learned the hard way and quickly realised what was happening. I guess some people do and some don't. It's lucky for us or there wouldn't be any fish at the poker tables .... seeing themselves rich ..... sound familiar?
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dneureiter
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Originally Posted by Nakamura
Get hold an episode of "The Real Hustle" (2006) and show him.
Every scheme works on pretty much the same principle. Prey on vulnerable people, get them to see themselves rich and then milk them for all they are worth. Pretty sick IMO.
I learned the hard way and quickly realised what was happening. I guess some people do and some don't. It's lucky for us or there wouldn't be any fish at the poker tables .... seeing themselves rich ..... sound familiar?
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Gonna check out that series on netflix then. Might be entertaining. Nice analogy regarding "life fish" and "poker fish" if you will. I can understand doing it wrong once.. but in the words of George W Bush: "Fool me once; shame on you. Fool me twice; uh-er... YA don't fool me AGAIN." Ya I guess some people just don't learn. But I'd like my explanations which were (gave up) logical and thought out as to why Bill Jones doesn't give a shit about you and will not make you millions to be listened to . No one sells millions to strangers for cheap.
You still playings any SNG / knockout games?
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
One of my friend's family is the most back-asswards fundie retard teabagging inbred folk the world has ever known, and I recall hearing how the patriarch of this family got hooked into a scheme where he paid a guy money and received coupons in return. He never got as much in coupons as he gave in money, but it was okay because other people were giving the guy money and receiving coupons too
Some people live Homer Simpson's grease/bacon enterprise quite literally
Oh yeah, and the explanation for the scheme had something to do with the double helix and how DNA is good investment advice or something
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haha. amazing word choice there in bold. Yea the explanations are pretty funny. But the thing about DNA causing the executives at Walmart to give you free money are true. It's cuz there's a double helix strand . . .
Please show me how to do ev calculation as to whether trading 200$ for 99.99$ in various coupons for 99cents each is profiable.
Meh, randomly see "Mega get rich etc etc" a couple channels below comedy central so I click on it (excited as hell mind you). So awful.. it is funny until you realize they are actually making money. A bunch of old people (all over 50) standing and applauding on another for "making" 40K last month blah blah blah. ZERO, not one word, explanation of what they're doing. Just pay Bob 200.. no wait 37 <--ok cool number, dollars.
Anyone interested in starting one of these scams; now THAT could be profitable with the number of "back-asswards fundie retard teabagging inbred folk the world has ever known[s]" there are in the world. Who's in
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
wiki: (show him some of this stuff)
Popular culture references
- In the 2007 Futurama movie, Bender's Big Score, Professor Farnsworth falls for a Lottery scam after he thought he'd won the lottery by giving away his personal details on the Internet.
- Nerdcore rapper MC Frontalot has written a song (Message No. 419) about the 419 scam on his debut album Nerdcore Rising.
- In the HBO comedy series, Flight of The Conchords episode The New Cup, the band's manager, Murray, uses the band's emergency funds for an investment with a Nigerian, Mr. Nigel Soladu, who promises to offer "1000% profit." However, it turns out that Nigel Soladu is a real person and the investment offer is legitimate. The band receives a 1000% profit, which they use to get bailed out of jail.
- In an episode of NBC series The Office in which Michael Scott tries to sell his subordinates on what he does not realize to be a pyramid scheme, Toby Flenderson asks, "Didn't you lose a lot of money on that other investment? The email?", to which Michael replies, "You know what Toby, when the son of the deposed king of Nigeria emails you directly, asking for help, you help! His father ran the freaking country! Okay?"
- In The Sun Cow episode of the Nickelodeon TV series, Back at the Barnyard, Otis, Pig and Abby received an e-mail from a Nigerian prince requesting for help, to which Abby replies with the farmer's credit card number and stating that the Internet does not lie.
- In a 2009 episode of A&E documentary Intervention, a man habitually gives his family's money away to 419 scammers.
- Two songs promoting advance fee fraud are popula in Nigeria: "I Go Chop Your Dollar - 419 Song" by Osuofia with the chorus "419 is just a game, you are the loser, I am the winner",[90] and "Maga Don Pay" (The victims pay) by Kelly Hansome, with the chorus Maga don pay, shout hallelujah. In response to this song, 9 R&B and rap artists (Banky W, Bez, Cobhams, MI, Modele, Omawumi, Rooftop MCs, The Wordsmith) released the song "Maga No Need Pay". The lyrics and the chorus Maga no need pay for me to buy correct motor, for me to take make my dough explain to the youngsters that they can make a good living and that they will help their country by staying away from advance fee fraud.
- Fela! The Musical makes several references to code 419.
- One of the series featured in webcomic Irregular Webcomic! stars the Nigerian Finance Minister.[91]
- When actress Anne Hathaway hosted Saturday Night Live, her opening monologue included a mention of a Nigerian prince who had e-mailed her requesting her PIN number and a large sum of money.
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Being able to mock something doesn't make that something baseless.
edit wait until they get into the MLM schemes and then show them the math on how many levels of the pyramid can exist before the base requires more people than exist in the world.
Or show them the episode of Bullshit on fast money. S08E05
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Isnt' online poker a get rich quick scheme? hrm..
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It's a free market scheme, no one cares for the poor in our dog check-raise dog world.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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You still playings any SNG / knockout games?
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Yeah, the $16s. I had to prove how big my balls were after I ran over 100 BI bad over 2k of tourneys. Should luckbox my way into the high orbit board this week. Competition is tough in these these days; you have to table select well or you'll land at a table fill of tagg regs.
I played some KOs recently, but I noticed the $27 KOs were gone. They did take forever to fill up, but fishy as hell. I still play the $13.50 KOs from time to time but the non-turbo format doesn't really suit me that well.
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Oh god help me. They have their first recruitment meeting here tonight and are expecting me to be here. I never even had the chance to reject them, they just talk like I will be here. If I ever see Donald Trump I will fuck him up.
They have had the ACN video phone hooked up for 3 days now and still have not used it, because nobody else has one except a bunch of ACN people that are all to busy trying to find more recruits to talk on it.
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They have had the ACN video phone hooked up for 3 days now and still have not used it, because nobody else has one except a bunch of ACN people that are all to busy trying to find more recruits to talk on it.
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That behemoth is one of the stupidest, most ill-timed things I've ever seen.
Webcam + Skype >>>>>>>>>>>>> Huge video phone incompatible with any other video delivery system
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Here it is sitting in her office collecting dust
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dneureiter
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Originally Posted by Nakamura
Yeah, the $16s. I had to prove how big my balls were after I ran over 100 BI bad over 2k of tourneys. Should luckbox my way into the high orbit board this week. Competition is tough in these these days; you have to table select well or you'll land at a table fill of tagg regs.
I played some KOs recently, but I noticed the $27 KOs were gone. They did take forever to fill up, but fishy as hell. I still play the $13.50 KOs from time to time but the non-turbo format doesn't really suit me that well.
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Meh donkaments . You run under a similar name on PS right? My name is the same as here. I play 13.50s and a few 27s. doing pretty well at 13.50s. Also you might have a filter on or something because the 27s are 100% there and they have been whenever I've looked. enjoyed your vids on grinderschool 3 or 4 months ago; taught me alot ty 
have fun at your recruitment meeting jyms!
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You guys just aren't trying hard enough!!
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Just playing to improve.
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