Game of Thrones TV Thread **HBO-Purists ONLY**

[wufwugy]

Oh shit it is blond. WTF am I thinking. I know why I confused that, but just ignore me

[boost]

I thought the looney sister and her to old to be, but still breast feeding child were awesome. Someone over on 2p2 complained that it wasn't necc to show the kid breast feeding to drive home the point that they are batshit crazy, but I completely disagree. That clip was one of the best in the show imo... you insta get the "oh snap, this is bizzarro world" feeling.

[wufwugy]

Agreed. Whoever said the breastfeeding was bad is a dummy

[a500lbgorilla]

That breastfeeding scene was a novel sort of skin-crawling. Just another awesome scene in the short but awesome life of GoT.

[philly and the phanatics]

ok have we all seen 7 yet so we can talk about it cause ZOOOOOORRRRRMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG

[boost]

ok have we all seen 7 yet so we can talk about it cause ZOOOOOORRRRRMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG

this...




... but I think we just have to wait til Sunday night

[wufwugy]

Yeah we have to wait

[a500lbgorilla]

Well, now that I've seen it I'm making an executive decision.

Beyond this line there will be discussion about episode 7.

_T_H_I_S____________L_I_N_E_

[a500lbgorilla]

So every scene continues to be awesome in GoT. Except for maybe the North Wall stuff but the creepers are coming, so that'll be cooking up soon.

[philly and the phanatics]

can someone clarify what exactly happened at the end....if carcetti stabbed him in the back or w/e then who did he have the kings gaurd fighting for, because they still attacked the queens men? is carcetti just like the lone ranger now?

[boost]

ya, I'm a bit confused on this as well philly. I think hes moving to seat Roberts brother or something.

Speaking of Littlefinger, the actor is doing 1000x better than his first few on screen appearances I think. All I could see was Carcetti at first, but now I am starting to see Littlefinger. I think his semi-monologue with the whores was what did it for me.

[philly and the phanatics]

oh yea how awesome was it when robert slugged the queen, and she said "ill wear it as a badge of honor" and he said "if you don't shut up ill honor you again" rofl ...the king is a straight gangster, i am sooooo disappointed that they killed off one of my 2 favorite chars

[philly and the phanatics]

but yea, carcetti is definitely doing a decent job. And what you said about him doing it for roberts brother makes some sense.

[boost]

Ya, Robert kept it boss.

[wufwugy]

ya, I'm a bit confused on this as well philly. I think hes moving to seat Roberts brother or something.

Speaking of Littlefinger, the actor is doing 1000x better than his first few on screen appearances I think. All I could see was Carcetti at first, but now I am starting to see Littlefinger. I think his semi-monologue with the whores was what did it for me.

Man dude you've read my mind almost perfectly on thoughts about the show. It's honestly weird.

This is easily one of the best fantasies HBO could turn into a show. The world is much better than any other books I read, except maybe the Rose of the Prophet trilogy.

I don't like Daenerys anymore. Things were better when she was getting raped

Robert's death is irritating because he was a good character. You could tell he was gonna go sooner than later, but stories need characters like him and the pImp who keep it real.

You had to expect it would come to blows between Lannister and Starks over the throne. The idea of the story is much more interesting if it's a three-way battle. There will possibly be a four-way battle going on when winter comes and maybe the things beyond the wall want to pillage

From the sound of it though, the Lannisters and Starks will fight until they have to join forces against the Dothraki

I'm gonna stop before I make all sorts of dumb predictions that will be wrong. Show is mega though. Pissed I can't just watch the whole damn thing straight through

[L_Clan_Sup3rMaN]

From the sound of it though, the Lannisters and Starks will fight until they have to join forces against the Dothraki

+1...Im thinking the same

I'm gonna stop before I make all sorts of dumb predictions that will be wrong. Show is mega though. Pissed I can't just watch the whole damn thing straight through

+11111111111111111111111...i would love to marathon this

[wufwugy]

Is ep 8 sposed to air today on hbo go or on demand or something, or do we have to wait till next week like schmucks?

[philly and the phanatics]

idk ive been trying to find the answer online all day, looks like its gonna be in a week though

[philly and the phanatics]

confirmed HBO

[wufwugy]

I thought they were doing the same thing they did with final Wire season

[philly and the phanatics]

oh and after reading this far in the book, its clear that the guy who stepped up for Tyrion is one of the guys who was at the Inn when they first captured him and they make it clear that they had been "buddying up" throughout the whole ride to the Eyrie or w/e its called. So its not quite as random as i thought. I would still assume the motivation is mostly monetary.

[philly and the phanatics]

I thought they were doing the same thing they did with final Wire season

did you click the link?

edit---maybe thats just for HBO on demand which could be different to HBOGO...idk....if you find out though let us know

[boost]

I think they just did the ep 7 hbogo in advance thing because of the holiday weekend. HBO is smart, and doesn't want to go up against BBQ and patriotism. 'MURCA, FUH YEAH.

[bigspenda73]

I think Robert's brother Stannis (sp?) will make an appearance and help Ned out. They alluded to him being a warrior so it'd make sense.

Season one cliffhanger will be the Dothraki's crossing the sea?

[philly and the phanatics]

yea thats def gonna be the cliff hanger, that or the baby being born either way implications will be the same.

As for the stannis call, its a lot more risky than your end of the season call lol but i like it and could def see it happening, although i think stannis helping out will come if Ned is captured or imprisoned in some way, i highly doubt hes just going to appear during the continuation of the final scene of the last ep but we shall see.

edit- im not this far in the book yet so i do not know at all.

[boost]

Ned is captured... it was the cliffhanger of 7... LF betrays him.

[philly and the phanatics]

well he has the knife to his neck but idk i assumed they were gonna continue the fight but i guess ur probably right the ep will probably start with him in some dungeon

[wufwugy]

I feel like Ned isn't really captured. It's possible that he's the most powerful man in the realm in that I think he has more allegiances than anybody. If they hold him against his will for too long, it's total war. If they kill him it's total war. And if he opens his mouth about the incest, the Lannisters lose. I think Ned still has the upper hand, and possibly LF didn't even betray him, but is putting on the appearance for a double double or something. The Lannisters seized power quickly because they're the underdogs. Not to mention that Tyrion might easily be again apprehended by Lady Stark if she gets news quickly enough. Lannisters may be the richest, but I think Ned has the allegiances of like 3x the houses

I think this scuttle over the throne is more about setting the stage for the Dothraki invasion. It's about the lack of unity and the struggle to create that unity to fight the Doth. Something else is that Daenerys is probably the most powerful person in the world. She has Drogo wrapped, and if she wants to try to usurp power without too much bloodshed, she probably actually could. Or she might be getting a taste for her power and become mad like her father


Prediction: Jon Snow's uncle will be found. Found as a White Walker

[boost]

LF betrayed him... he whispered "I told you that you shouldn't have trusted me" or something along those lines in Ned's ear... if it was a double double cross setup, why would he say such a line that only Ned could hear?

Lady Stark will not get Tyrion again. I assert this simply on the basis that it would be poor story telling.

I agree with the rest I think... the visual of Danny eating the heart seemed like foreshadowing of some sort, and it kinda fits with your prediction.

I made the same prediction about the uncle in the 2p2 thread, don't remember getting much reaction to it though.

[wufwugy]

LF betrayed him... he whispered "I told you that you shouldn't have trusted me" or something along those lines in Ned's ear... if it was a double double cross setup, why would he say such a line that only Ned could hear?

For the audience

Lady Stark will not get Tyrion again. I assert this simply on the basis that it would be poor story telling.

You're probably right that it's bad storytelling, but there has been some foreshadowing that Lady Stark and Tyrion could develop a non-villainous relationship. The whole she watches him save her thing. They sorta squashed that foreshadowing though with the next episode

I agree with the rest I think... the visual of Danny eating the heart seemed like foreshadowing of some sort, and it kinda fits with your prediction.

What do you mean? I said two different things about the direction she could take. I honestly think she's the hardest character to write because she could turn into almost anything, and it could make or break the epicness. The north of the wall stuff is similar.

I made the same prediction about the uncle in the 2p2 thread, don't remember getting much reaction to it though.

I musta missed that as I haven't read most of the thread yet. What's your handle?

[bigspenda73]

wait y'all think the Uncle is one of the creatures?

how do you come up with that assumption? If it's something you've read in a spoiler (or the books, or someone referencing the books) then please don't ruin it for me.

[wufwugy]

wait y'all think the Uncle is one of the creatures?

how do you come up with that assumption? If it's something you've read in a spoiler (or the books, or someone referencing the books) then please don't ruin it for me.

No spoiler. Just that the WW appear humanoid and I think it would be excellent storytelling if they were indeed humans mysteriously altered and the mystery extends into Snow's uncle becoming one.

[bigspenda73]

Snow's uncle is a Stark right?

[wufwugy]

Not sure. I'm still trying to figure out the whole Jarah Varys Illyio thing or whatever

[boost]

Idk, the "told you not to trust me" seemed to be showing that his allegiance is not to the Starks. The whole "told you not to trust me, and you shouldn't have cuz I betrayed you, but seriously I'm on your side and was just teaching you an elaborate lesson in espionage and medieval politics!" dynamic is jut a bit too much. I mean, maybe they could pull it off, but I just can't see it.

I enjoyed Caetlyn's brief non-antagonist relationship with Tyrion... but I'm not sure it was to set up a future cooperative relationship, but just one of the many examples in which the show conveys to the viewer that there is no ultimate good or evil character/house... This is one of the reasons I love the show so much. Sure the Lanisters are kinda cast in the antagonist light, but overall the show seems to take a very relativist stance on good and evil.

I thought I was agreeing with you that she may very well become an dark, power hungry person, willing to do whatever it takes to get all the power she can.

PM.

[wufwugy]

Idk, the "told you not to trust me" seemed to be showing that his allegiance is not to the Starks. The whole "told you not to trust me, and you shouldn't have cuz I betrayed you, but seriously I'm on your side and was just teaching you an elaborate lesson in espionage and medieval politics!" dynamic is jut a bit too much. I mean, maybe they could pull it off, but I just can't see it.

Oh yeah that would be dumb, but it could be a play because LF thinks it would be best to make the Lannisters think he's on their side. I see the possibility of LF playing a really long and tricky game, which could mean many things he does are for appearances. What I don't see is LF obviously picking sides and sticking with them. Everything has got to be a scheme to him

I enjoyed Caetlyn's brief non-antagonist relationship with Tyrion... but I'm not sure it was to set up a future cooperative relationship, but just one of the many examples in which the show conveys to the viewer that there is no ultimate good or evil character/house... This is one of the reasons I love the show so much. Sure the Lanisters are kinda cast in the antagonist light, but overall the show seems to take a very relativist stance on good and evil.

Yeah this is standard HBO too. I'm not sure I've seen a show of theirs where there's a clear cut bad/good guy.

[boost]

yep, I agree with your thoughts on LF and his motivations. So sad I have to wait another week for more GoT.. Prob gonna go waste a few hours in the 2p2 thread now..

[philly and the phanatics]

LF's people were attacking the queens men so idk how that would make them think that he was on the Lannisters side, unless you are assuming that Stark had control of those men and had them attack the queens men and that LF is just all alone and just trying to jump in on the Lannister side (not the impression i got but possible)


and spenda, Snow is ned's bastard child and Benjen is snow;s uncle (and Ned's brother)

[boost]

LF's men did not attack Cersei's men, they attacked Ned's men.

[philly and the phanatics]

so LF paid the golden knights or w/e to eliminate the rest of Starks men? when stark had already come to LF saying "the queens men are too strong for just my men"....?!?

[boost]

so LF paid the golden knights or w/e to eliminate the rest of Starks men? when stark had already come to LF saying "the queens men are too strong for just my men"....?!?

Hmm, ya I am gonna go lurk 2p2 and try to figure this out... I guess there is a bit of ambiguity in the scene.

[wufwugy]

Rewatched the latest ep. I think LF's betrayal is because he didn't want the "so it's Stannis and war?" option. I think he either wants to usurp power for himself somehow, or become the behind the scenes king like a Goldman Sachs. So the throne game isn't just Lannister vs Stark/Baratheon vs Dothraki. Throw LF in there IMO

Daenerys will become power hungry evil, I'm sure of it. It seems to me they're trying to make her appear highly intrigued by power, and I'm guessing they'll do something like she struggles with things but then her child is stillborn or something and she flips off and loses her empathy.

[bigspenda73]

why can't it just be purely b/c he wants Stark's woman?

[Nekrogovner]

Hmm, question. I'm reading your comments here and wondering are the series following the story in George R.R. Martins books, or was something changed drastically? I never read any of his books, though I would want to.

[philly and the phanatics]

yes they are following the series, there are a few minor changes but nothing drastic the script is almost directly from the book which is awesome.

[wufwugy]

hmmm wonder if hbo is trying to catch torrent sharers cuz theres a fake eztv ep 8 just put up on tpb

[lolzzz_321]

def enjoying the series but part of me wants to stop watching it and marathon session s1

pretty sure i watched the wire in a week

[boost]

def enjoying the series but part of me wants to stop watching it and marathon session s1

pretty sure i watched the wire in a week

It would be near impossible to watch it all in a week. I watched it all in under a month, and that was quite an undertaking...

[lolzzz_321]

zommbbiiiieeessss

epic battle is brewing

[boost]

zommbbiiiieeessss

epic battle is brewing

ya, I really like the direction they took with the zombies... while I do like the fast zombie style, I just don't think it would have fit for GoT. Also, theres just something about fat zombies that is awesome. Like the grocery store scene in Zombieland, that was so clutch.

Also all the ravens flying.. that was an awesome clip... one because it was awesome, but two because it was a great way to stay in budget. If they had the characters just mention "18,000 troops" there is no wow factor. If they show the troops, thats prob quite expensive to film/cgi... but if they show the Ravens, its a very quick relatively cheap clip that gives the wow factor in a unique visual way.