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Old 08-01-2008, 08:12 PM     Post subject: FUCK CAYLEE #1 (permalink)  
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I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I HOPE SHES GOD DAMN DEAD. WHY IS THIS NEWS?

Ok that was probably a tad strong, but seriously why the fuck is this world news? Because she's a cute little white toddler? Because she has a cute little new-generation first name?

I was watching cnn today and it was a live feed of shit about the Caylee Anthony case (she's been missing since june) and the ticker under reads "India: 20 dead in train fire" and "over a dozen killed in Turkey dorm collapse."

I guess those people weren't cute or white enough. Or maybe its because coverage of a dorm collapse in Turkey doesn't instill fear in the white well-to- do demographic that their little children will get abducted by a Puerto Rican at any moment.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i have no clue who's caylee, but spoon's pretty cute.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:42 PM     Post subject: Re: FUCK CAYLEE #4 (permalink)  
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I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I HOPE SHES GOD DAMN DEAD. WHY IS THIS NEWS?

Ok that was probably a tad strong, but seriously why the fuck is this world news? Because she's a cute little white toddler? Because she has a cute little new-generation first name?

I was watching cnn today and it was a live feed of shit about the Caylee Anthony case (she's been missing since june) and the ticker under reads "India: 20 dead in train fire" and "over a dozen killed in Turkey dorm collapse."

I guess those people weren't cute or white enough. Or maybe its because coverage of a dorm collapse in Turkey doesn't instill fear in the white well-to- do demographic that their little children will get abducted by a Puerto Rican at any moment.
Remember the video of Palestinians cheering the 9/11 attacks (i.e. the deaths of 5k innocent people)?

It's all a matter of perspective. Don't make it out to be that we're so terrible.
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wasn't that video debunked ?
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9/11 was quite mild in comparison to many other human tragedies in our history, yet in the mind of americans its right up there.

a tragedy for sure, but if it had been 750k tutsis slaughtered on non-american soil very few would have said boo.
 
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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because an american life > all others

We enjoy freedoms people. If all the backwards-ass countries of the world let their people enjoy the sweet smell of freedom, then they'd value a life a little bit more and not allow trains to catch fire or dorms to collapse.

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because a white middle-upperclass attractive american life > all others
i bet there are a ton of black/ugly/poor toddlers missing in america
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:27 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Blacks can't be Americans. Sure, maybe by title, but common... we all know the truth.

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Old 08-01-2008, 09:37 PM     Post subject: Re: FUCK CAYLEE #10 (permalink)  
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why the fuck is this world news? Because she's a cute little white toddler?
Basically. It drives ratings.

In other news, Nancy Grace is getting her ass sued for driving a woman to suicide. Couldn't happen to a nicer person.
 
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:15 PM #11 (permalink)  
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ugh, just like that madeline case.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:23 PM #12 (permalink)  
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i have a 1 time rule for missing children cases. some are pretty interesting in terms of legality, but for the most part its the same thing. i feel bad for every one of them, but i don't need/want to hear about it every night. ZOMG CAYLEE'S MOM WAS OUT PARTYING ZOMG. sometimes i just wish news commentator's would just come out and say what everyone else is thinking....that the mother is an irresponsible cunt.

renton - they just pick the most photogenic children i think. its actually kind of funny, cause i asked my dad about this the other day too in relation to caylee. that was his response, and it makes sense to me.
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Renton, I don't understand why this was made to be an issue of race? If your point is that this is tragic, but grossly overblown relative to other terrible incidents, or that you'd prefer to see the media focus on objectively covering world events instead of something completely insignificant in your daily life, ok. I agree. Why again is this an issue of race?
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:19 AM #15 (permalink)  
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^^^^ yeah also what lukie said. i didnt want to be the one to break the ice
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In response to subject, some creepy 45 year old may be doing just that...
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lukie if u've ever watched the news or read the paper ofr more than an hour you'd see that its a clear issue of race
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:32 AM #18 (permalink)  
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although, most subjects that race is brought into i consider race baiting, but there is probably some truth to this. i mean you just dont see too many missing black kids on national tv. im pretty sure i have seen them, but it is rare.
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:33 AM #19 (permalink)  
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havent heard of caylee, but it sounds excatly the same as the madeline case. she smanaged to get something like 120 out of 365 front pages of the daily express. very fucking night she was the top news story. they wopuld just make up shit every day liek accuse her parents of killing her repeatedly despite being the most absurd accusation ever. even todays daily express has a madeline banner over 15 months on, on the front page.
re. the race issue, its a race issue because only a middle class white toddler would get this much overblown media attention. its not because of racism necessarily, its just the public wouldnt give two shits if it wasnt a white middle class toddler / the media wouldnt be able to spin it up to such a massive story

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the only time you hear about a black is if they got stabbed, shot or gunned down a school.
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I haven't heard anything about this case other that what I read in this thread, but I figure there is at least an 80% chance she is also blonde.

Kidnappings happen all the time, but we only hear about it when it's a cute little blonde girl.

What's the difference between caylee and jokes about caylee?

Jokes about caylee are going to get old.
 
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middle class white people are the majority of news viewers
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I haven't heard about this, but Renton I'm with you.

I have noticed this particular trend time and time again. Its retarded, really.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:17 AM     Post subject: Re: FUCK CAYLEE #24 (permalink)  
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I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I HOPE SHES GOD DAMN DEAD. WHY IS THIS NEWS?

Ok that was probably a tad strong, but seriously why the fuck is this world news? Because she's a cute little white toddler? Because she has a cute little new-generation first name?

I was watching cnn today and it was a live feed of shit about the Caylee Anthony case (she's been missing since june) and the ticker under reads "India: 20 dead in train fire" and "over a dozen killed in Turkey dorm collapse."

I guess those people weren't cute or white enough. Or maybe its because coverage of a dorm collapse in Turkey doesn't instill fear in the white well-to- do demographic that their little children will get abducted by a Puerto Rican at any moment.
Most republicans are rich, white, bastards. CNN is owned by Repblicans.
See also FOX.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:25 AM     Post subject: Re: FUCK CAYLEE #25 (permalink)  
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I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I HOPE SHES GOD DAMN DEAD. WHY IS THIS NEWS?

Ok that was probably a tad strong, but seriously why the fuck is this world news? Because she's a cute little white toddler? Because she has a cute little new-generation first name?

I was watching cnn today and it was a live feed of shit about the Caylee Anthony case (she's been missing since june) and the ticker under reads "India: 20 dead in train fire" and "over a dozen killed in Turkey dorm collapse."

I guess those people weren't cute or white enough. Or maybe its because coverage of a dorm collapse in Turkey doesn't instill fear in the white well-to- do demographic that their little children will get abducted by a Puerto Rican at any moment.
Most republicans are rich, white, bastards. CNN is owned by Repblicans.
See also FOX.
hmmm, so its okay for you to generalize republicans as rich white bastards, but its not okay to generalize any other race? that makes sense.

also LOL @ CNN BEING RIGHT-WING.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:30 AM #26 (permalink)  
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yeah ragnar and even though republican policies tend to favor the rich the vast vast majority of republicans aren't rich
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I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I HOPE SHES GOD DAMN DEAD. WHY IS THIS NEWS?

Ok that was probably a tad strong, but seriously why the fuck is this world news? Because she's a cute little white toddler? Because she has a cute little new-generation first name?

I was watching cnn today and it was a live feed of shit about the Caylee Anthony case (she's been missing since june) and the ticker under reads "India: 20 dead in train fire" and "over a dozen killed in Turkey dorm collapse."

I guess those people weren't cute or white enough. Or maybe its because coverage of a dorm collapse in Turkey doesn't instill fear in the white well-to- do demographic that their little children will get abducted by a Puerto Rican at any moment.
Most republicans are rich, white, bastards. CNN is owned by Repblicans.
See also FOX.
hmmm, so its okay for you to generalize republicans as rich white bastards, but its not okay to generalize any other race? that makes sense.

also LOL @ CNN BEING RIGHT-WING.
I'm allowed to call republicans rich white bastards, such because I'm a rich white bastard. Although I'm not republican, I also don't buy CNN's right wing Bias Bullshit.

I can make a broad generalization about white bastards, because I'm white.. It's the same reason I cannot drop the N-Bomb. Because I'm not afro-american.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:38 AM #28 (permalink)  
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yeah ragnar and even though republican policies tend to favor the rich the vast vast majority of republicans aren't rich
So? The ones who make the policies ARE rich, and the vast majority of rich people are republicans.

Also what's your definition of Rich? Then take that and compare that to the rest of the starving world, then look at what joe blow in Republican Kentucky trailer park makes, and compare THAT to the rest of the starving world.. and tell me he's not rich.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:53 AM     Post subject: Re: FUCK CAYLEE #30 (permalink)  
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I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I HOPE SHES GOD DAMN DEAD. WHY IS THIS NEWS?

Ok that was probably a tad strong, but seriously why the fuck is this world news? Because she's a cute little white toddler? Because she has a cute little new-generation first name?

I was watching cnn today and it was a live feed of shit about the Caylee Anthony case (she's been missing since june) and the ticker under reads "India: 20 dead in train fire" and "over a dozen killed in Turkey dorm collapse."

I guess those people weren't cute or white enough. Or maybe its because coverage of a dorm collapse in Turkey doesn't instill fear in the white well-to- do demographic that their little children will get abducted by a Puerto Rican at any moment.
Most republicans are rich, white, bastards. CNN is owned by Repblicans.
See also FOX.
hmmm, so its okay for you to generalize republicans as rich white bastards, but its not okay to generalize any other race? that makes sense.

also LOL @ CNN BEING RIGHT-WING.
I'm allowed to call republicans rich white bastards, such because I'm a rich white bastard. Although I'm not republican, I also don't buy CNN's right wing Bias Bullshit.

I can make a broad generalization about white bastards, because I'm white.. It's the same reason I cannot drop the N-Bomb. Because I'm not afro-american.
first, cnn is left wing, and i think that is known by anyone with the slightest bit of objectivity, just like everyone knows fox is right wing.

second, if a black guy said republicans are rich white bastards, you wouldnt have said a fucking thing, so i dont buy your, "its only okay to generalize your own race" attitude.

third, i dont like your assertion that rich people are bastards. its ridiculous. if you dont like rich people and want everything to be equal, i suggest you move to a country that has a communist dicatorship, because thats not what the free market is about.
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yeah ragnar and even though republican policies tend to favor the rich the vast vast majority of republicans aren't rich
So? The ones who make the policies ARE rich, and the vast majority of rich people are republicans.

Also what's your definition of Rich? Then take that and compare that to the rest of the starving world, then look at what joe blow in Republican Kentucky trailer park makes, and compare THAT to the rest of the starving world.. and tell me he's not rich.
What's your point, and how is it relevant to this thread?

Also, "the rest of the starving world" is more than a little misleading.

This thread is just making my head hurt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist
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haha, great minds think alike apparantly.
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yeah ragnar and even though republican policies tend to favor the rich the vast vast majority of republicans aren't rich
So? The ones who make the policies ARE rich, and the vast majority of rich people are republicans.

Also what's your definition of Rich? Then take that and compare that to the rest of the starving world, then look at what joe blow in Republican Kentucky trailer park makes, and compare THAT to the rest of the starving world.. and tell me he's not rich.
What's your point, and how is it relevant to this thread?

Also, "the rest of the starving world" is more than a little misleading.

This thread is just making my head hurt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist
http://www.familycare.org/news/if_the_world.htm

Relevant points to this discussion:
5 would be american... they would control 35% of the worlds money, and 50 would be malnourished (my definition of starving) one would be dying of starvation. Rest of the starving world. 50% of the world is so poor they can't eat.

Relevance to this thread: I don't give a shit about Caylee either. Race and money and political bias has everything to do with why Caylee is being broadcast over the stuff that's being run on the ticker.

I don't want to live in communism. I was just making a point for which I was attacked. I'll defend that point. With Evidence even.

If you don't understand why these things are causally linked to the rest of the thread, I can get out the HS lecture materials, but I hope to hell you're smarter than that.
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fun mention of communism is never absent, almost as a new variant of godwin's law

anyway, the US of A is more and more looking like a police state, so is Britain

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yeah ragnar and even though republican policies tend to favor the rich the vast vast majority of republicans aren't rich
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here is the bottom line though renton (back to the original subject), this is what main stream media is all about. they run stupid stories to the hilt that dont matter at all. another example of news stories that are getting so fucking lame, are the kids beating the crap out of each other videos.
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2 year old that went missing. the mother is in jail on half mill bail for child neglect. she had apparently been missing for 5 weeks and the grandmother called 911 or some shit, and the all the while the mother was saying that she was fine, etc.
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I know what you're saying. It's unfortunate that in reality, we have a 2 party system. The thing is though, as long as people view voting for non-republocrats as throwing their votes away, we are going to be stuck with this crappy system.

Hey, if you don't want me to vote for Ron Paul, I'll vote for McCain instead.
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you guys seem to be turning this into a wee bit more than it may be

just because something is ethnically influenced doesn't make it racist. if white girls get the attention its not because theres some distaste with any other ethnicity. change caylee into a black girl and popularize it and it would still be popular. the large large majority of americans like other ethnicities. however, a white girl (blonde and cute too) will get more coverage i speculate due to the reason that the type of emotions hit on with these situations are very parental and protective, and its much more natural for the large majority of viewers which are white who have experiences largely with white people to feel a greater sense of protectiveness for a white girl simply because they can more correctly subconsciously think that the white girl could be their own girl.

not to mention that what the media believes and decides to do plays a hudge role. i believe that the media incorrectly feels that they must cater to the audience more specifically than they need to. like they think that they should cover only accidents that hit home because they think thats all we'll care about, but i think that they are only playing it safe, that if they put as much effort into covering disasters not even related to americans but simply related to the human condition then there would be as much american attendance. however, its much harder to cover something like the rwandan genocide than 9/11, so that plays a role.
 
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and re: ronpaul

fwiw, i feel that a lot of his ideas are archaic. i donated money to his campaign and i would do it again, so dont take me wrong. however i feel that he could have been a quasi-disaster, but i also feel that i dont understand political sciences nearly enough to speculate with any accuracy.

anywho, as one example, i feel that the constitution is in a few ways outdated. it was written during colonial times when transportation and information was very slow. it was an excellent idea then for state governments to take as much of a role as they did, but not so much now. im not saying its bad, but that its much more questionable.

even something like the second amendment. it is very clear that we have the right to own guns, but how important is this right now? it used to be mega important back then, but it just simply doesn't seem to be now. iirc a big if not the biggest reason for the amendment was because britain tried to control the states by keeping guns out of their possession. well thats just not how it works now. first off postmodern europe is more progressed than we are and afaik they dont have guns. second, if we were to adhere to the meaning of the second amendment then guns like that used in hunting and firing ranges do not serve the purpose. back when the amendment was written it was musket vs musket, but now if the feds try to run us over our shotguns and glocks and rifles wont do shit because they have tanks and aircraft and night vision. so to adhere to the amendment correctly we should have militia with those as well, not just desert eagles.

not to mention that being overrun by the government in postmodern civilization will take on a very different method than it used to. 1. revolutionary war was essentially two nations warring, not civil. the civil war was even much like two nations warring. cannot forget how hudge the US was back then due to travel speeds, and that is a most important factor in keeping peace and uniformity. 2. the people are the government, at least moreso now than ever before. it could simply be that the installment of a democratic or republic it self eliminates the need for a militia to defend itself. the states were not fighting against a democracy, but a monarchy, and we should be aware that peace will only be found when the last king is strangled with the intestines of the last priest.

having said that, i am pro gun, i just like to call things what they are. if it was possible to secure our borders the way that some european nations can then i would be more appreciative of anti-gun policy, but even then im pro gun because guns that kill people are either illegal guns or owner accident, for the most part.

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