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Old 12-07-2005, 09:57 PM     Post subject: FTR Forums have become an embarassment #1 (permalink)  
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Well after reading the "Does Xianti hate IRC post" and seeing that IRC has been disowned, I think its time for a response.

Point #1 - The majority of the people complaining about IRC are never in IRC. Ultimate George I have never seen you in IRC and yet I have seen a few posts from you about it plus one thanking Xianti for disowning it.

Point #2 - You don't have to read every friggin community post. If the reasoning behind your hatred of an IRC channel is that you have to read little bickerings in the community, SKIP THE DAMN POST. Just don't friggin read it, its not that hard.

Point #3 - The reason there are problems is IRC is that the good players abandoned it. In the last couple weeks, players like myself and Doggz have actually been making an effort to clean things up. I started an #ftr-pokeronly channel for those who didn't want to deal with the random BS getting discussed. We've also started kick/banning people for inappropriate comments, etc. We're doing this while 4-6 tabling, thats more effort that i've seen from anyone else who's been sitting here bitching about it.

Point #4 - The forums have become absolutely useless for gaining any sort of useful input on actual poker theory. Yes i said, useless. I don't remember the last time I actually read a response to a post that put forth any useful information. Typically one person responds with a cookie-cutter reply and 10 post-whores type something like "i agree with so-and-so." We need places like IRC and Vent to actually discuss poker theory, analyze hands, analyze situations etc. From the time I first found the forums (1 year) , I lost over a grand. Since I joined IRC and Vent (3 months), I've made over $10k. Coincidence....I think not.

Point #5 - Before you delete this post and ban me, think about what I'm actually saying. I swear if this post gets insta-deleted and I get insta-banned than I have successfully proved my point that you all are little babies that can't handle real criticism and are too lazy to actually fix a problem with a good thing, you simply delete it and hope it goes away.

I leave it to you, either respond with an intelligent argument and prove to me that IQ exists on this forum. Or delete this and ban me and prove to me that you all are the little whining babies I think you are.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:00 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:04 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:04 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:05 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:21 PM #9 (permalink)  
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point 1
wrong. we all hung out in IRC when it was cool. you don't see us there anymore hardly because we don't like what it became.

point 2
yea, no one has to read them. that doesn't mean they still arent stupid and unnecessary.

point 3
ok

point 4
are you kidding?

point 5
who is this directed at?
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:23 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Just get rid of the personal stuff (he banned me, he called me that) and we will be just fine with the way it was. The forum is good for long analyzing things, and IRC is.. well.. a chatroom. I personally feel much more like a part of the community by visiting IRC, and I have made some friends there.

I don't see why this has become so huge all of a sudden? Just get rid of the (few) whining, personal threads.

Just my $0.01. Ban me if you must.

EDIT: I wasn't around when it was "cool", I might add. But I have been a regular in a lot of IRC channels and this one is clearly the best yet. Maybe I just happen to like "what it has become".
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:25 PM #11 (permalink)  
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i just thought of something! apply #2 to yourself!

"You don't have to read every friggin _______ post. If the reasoning behind your hatred of an _____ is that you have to read little bickerings in the community, SKIP THE DAMN POST. Just don't friggin read it, its not that hard. "
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:27 PM #12 (permalink)  
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wrong. we all hung out in IRC when it was cool. you don't see us there anymore hardly because we don't like what it became.
It became that way because noone took the time nor energy to fix it. Everyone just bailed.

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yea, no one has to read them. that doesn't mean they still arent stupid and unnecessary.
I agree entirely, but Tim V. posting tons of pictures of his woman...totally stupid and unnecessary also. And when we decided to make fun of it, we got our post deleted. Apparantly unnecessary is ok as long as the mods agree with it.

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are you kidding?
No. I'm dead serious and I can think of about 5-6 people who completely agree with me on that and make a ton more money than 90% of FTR.

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who is this directed at?
Anyone with the power to delete this.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:28 PM #13 (permalink)  
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what the hell is the big problem? You guys like chilling in irc, no ones asking you to cease and desist using the name. Xianti just doesnt want to have anything to do with it.

And Lamb, I think its cool that you are trying to turn shit around, but if the only people oped are constantly quading or 8 tabling or whatever, then how good of a job do you think youre doing?

No ones telling you to no longer log into the channel, so I dont get what the big fuss is about. The irc channel is not bringing xianti or the other owners any referalls, this site is, and when this site turns into an irc bitching fest, then people dont come here. Then they stop seeing referalls. So if he feels IRC is nothing but trouble, who are you to go and call him a baby? Think about what youre saying man.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:33 PM #14 (permalink)  
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No. I'm dead serious and I can think of about 5-6 people who completely agree with me on that and make a ton more money than 90% of FTR.
lets say i had a basketball team, and we were good. then my 5 great players left. then theres you telling me that my team isn't good and you can find a certain 5 people that agree with you. and the worst part of this is that the rest of the team is sitting around like "yea, well talk shit about is, we dont care. if they want to leave, we are still going to try to win some games."
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:36 PM #15 (permalink)  
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what the hell is the big problem? You guys like chilling in irc, no ones asking you to cease and desist using the name. Xianti just doesnt want to have anything to do with it.

And Lamb, I think its cool that you are trying to turn shit around, but if the only people oped are constantly quading or 8 tabling or whatever, then how good of a job do you think youre doing?

No ones telling you to no longer log into the channel, so I dont get what the big fuss is about. The irc channel is not bringing xianti or the other owners any referalls, this site is, and when this site turns into an irc bitching fest, then people dont come here. Then they stop seeing referalls. So if he feels IRC is nothing but trouble, who are you to go and call him a baby? Think about what youre saying man.
Last i checked the community forum didn't make him referrals either. My point is that IRC has helped people make money, and u won't convince me otherwise cuz it did for me. Taking away IRC from FTR is removing what could be a valuable resource. But apparantly helping people isn't what matters, its all about referrals.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:38 PM #16 (permalink)  
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what the hell is the big problem?
This has become a big us-against-them thing. Not good.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:40 PM #17 (permalink)  
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and theres a difference between posting pictures of your girl, who has decent implants and a cute face for everyone to enjoy. Versus blatantly hating on someones girlfreind in a public forums, that is just wrong. Lamb, you seem to be pulling everyones cards today how about I pull yours? how about I get a copy of that picture of your girlfreind that someone has and post that. Then we can have everyone critique her. (sorry sarah just proving a point) Then youll see how it feels.

no hard feelings man.. just proving a point, that post was out of line.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:40 PM #18 (permalink)  
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No. I'm dead serious and I can think of about 5-6 people who completely agree with me on that and make a ton more money than 90% of FTR.
lets say i had a basketball team, and we were good. then my 5 great players left. then theres you telling me that my team isn't good and you can find a certain 5 people that agree with you. and the worst part of this is that the rest of the team is sitting around like "yea, well talk shit about is, we dont care. if they want to leave, we are still going to try to win some games."

and then the coach comes in and says he will have nothing to do with the remaining players who are here trying to salvage the team.
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could somone explain to me when what and why irc become "broken" i dont understand wat your all going on about
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wait what?

who's the coach supposed to be?
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No. I'm dead serious and I can think of about 5-6 people who completely agree with me on that and make a ton more money than 90% of FTR.
lets say i had a basketball team, and we were good. then my 5 great players left. then theres you telling me that my team isn't good and you can find a certain 5 people that agree with you. and the worst part of this is that the rest of the team is sitting around like "yea, well talk shit about is, we dont care. if they want to leave, we are still going to try to win some games."
Ok so if the team (the forums) is still as good. Where are all the new high rollers? Where's the huge profits? Where is the new michael1123 or new ilikeaces86 on the forums? Please point me to them, please. I'm not against the forums, all i'm saying is that something is obviously missing. Cuz i see people who have been playing $10 + $20 SNGs for a year. The team is <.500. Playoffs aren't looking good.
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and no, dont quote me then shove those words in xiantis mouth. Im not speaking for him Im just pointing out something that seems like it should be obvious. These guys have done a lot for us, and they arent being greedy about anything, so dont even fucking go there. Cuz once again you are getting out of line.
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Using Gabes qoute the team(IRC) had a lot of its good players leave and we are trying to get by then the coach(X man) comes in and is like you guys suck seeya.
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No. I'm dead serious and I can think of about 5-6 people who completely agree with me on that and make a ton more money than 90% of FTR.
lets say i had a basketball team, and we were good. then my 5 great players left. then theres you telling me that my team isn't good and you can find a certain 5 people that agree with you. and the worst part of this is that the rest of the team is sitting around like "yea, well talk shit about is, we dont care. if they want to leave, we are still going to try to win some games."
Ok so if the team (the forums) is still as good. Where are all the new high rollers? Where's the huge profits? Where is the new michael1123 or new ilikeaces86 on the forums? Please point me to them, please.
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and theres a difference between posting pictures of your girl, who has decent implants and a cute face for everyone to enjoy. Versus blatantly hating on someones girlfreind in a public forums, that is just wrong. Lamb, you seem to be pulling everyones cards today how about I pull yours? how about I get a copy of that picture of your girlfreind that someone has and post that. Then we can have everyone critique her. (sorry sarah just proving a point) Then youll see how it feels.

no hard feelings man.. just proving a point, that post was out of line.
If I posted a pic of her on the forums simply so everyone could stare at her and u wanted to critique it, i couldn't say a damn thing. But i didn't.
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If you don't think that the forums are helping you become a better player, then don't stick around. I know they have helped many other people, though. Why don't you read the MTT Winner's Circle and see how many new people said "I have only been lurking but this site has helped me tons, here is my first win!"
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i didnt say our team was awesome. i just dont care what the players who left the team think.
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If you don't think that the forums are helping you become a better player, then don't stick around. I know they have helped many other people, though. Why don't you read the MTT Winner's Circle and see how many new people said "I have only been lurking but this site has helped me tons, here is my first win!"
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i didnt say our team was awesome. i just dont care what the players who left the team think.
Clearly you do, or you wouldn't be posting in this thread. Good day sir!
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and theres a difference between posting pictures of your girl, who has decent implants and a cute face for everyone to enjoy. Versus blatantly hating on someones girlfreind in a public forums, that is just wrong. Lamb, you seem to be pulling everyones cards today how about I pull yours? how about I get a copy of that picture of your girlfreind that someone has and post that. Then we can have everyone critique her. (sorry sarah just proving a point) Then youll see how it feels.

no hard feelings man.. just proving a point, that post was out of line.
If I posted a pic of her on the forums simply so everyone could stare at her and u wanted to critique it, i couldn't say a damn thing. But i didn't.

well maybe he didnt think it all the way throuhg, but have some fukcing respect, jesus. I wish you would sya some shit like that about my girl to me in person, Id break your fucking face. Its one thing if its a 'yo momma' joke thats completely a general joke. But you guys where just saying bogus shit, that shit aint funny.
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If you don't think that the forums are helping you become a better player, then don't stick around. I know they have helped many other people, though. Why don't you read the MTT Winner's Circle and see how many new people said "I have only been lurking but this site has helped me tons, here is my first win!"
1st wins aren't that hard. When I won my first MTT, i still sucked. My point is that IRC is an outlet where many players can get help that continues their poker career if run properly. The whole point is that disowning IRC is a mistake because there are many people that have gained from using it. And just because of a few whining posts in the community, that resource does not need to be taken away.
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If you don't think that the forums are helping you become a better player, then don't stick around. I know they have helped many other people, though. Why don't you read the MTT Winner's Circle and see how many new people said "I have only been lurking but this site has helped me tons, here is my first win!"
1st wins aren't that hard. When I won my first MTT, i still sucked. My point is that IRC is an outlet where many players can get help that continues their poker career if run properly. The whole point is that disowning IRC is a mistake because there are many people that have gained from using it. And just because of a few whining posts in the community, that resource does not need to be taken away.

This I think is the main point in this thread. Yes IRC has become a gay jokes and bad beats haven rather than a pure poker channel. However, this can be remedied, and made into something good again.

However, rather than attempting to fix the problem, FTR is ignoring it, and ditching it.
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Well, since YOU still sucked after your first MTT, then everybody must have.

In addition, you may not think it that big of a deal to win an MTT but it definitely is to people who haven't taken any down yet.

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Well, since YOU still sucked after your first MTT, then everybody must have.

In addition, you may not think it that big of a deal to win an MTT but it definitely is to people who haven't taken any down yet.

Think of the newer guys.
You so completely missed my point.

"In addition, you may not think it that big of a deal to win an MTT but it definitely is to people who haven't taken any down yet." - When did i say this?
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I dont so much disagree with the idea of not abondoning IRC, however is the way you guys are presenting hte arguement. Its like radicals taking over a school and holding little kids and teachers as hostages. They demand the release of their friends from jail or whatever, yet .. what did they really hope to achieve? Its a horribly inneffective way to go about things, and thats what you guys are doing.
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I really don’t see what the point of this thread is other than to stir up trouble. The people that like the IRC channel will continue to go there and it will continue to be a help to YOUR game. You come here claiming that it is to the detriment of the forums to disown it (IRC) yet you yourself claim to not use the forums anymore…hence you can’t really claim concern for the forums. So what is your purpose here? Altruism? Naw, its just to stir up stuff.
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I really don’t see what the point of this thread is other than to stir up trouble. The people that like the IRC channel will continue to go there and it will continue to be a help to YOUR game. You come here claiming that it is to the detriment of the forums to disown it (IRC) yet you yourself claim to not use the forums anymore…hence you can’t really claim concern for the forums. So what is your purpose here? Altruism? Naw, its just to stir up stuff.
I'm not trying to start up trouble. The only thing i'm trying to stir is change. I still do use the forums but I find I get better input about the posts from IRC or vent than I do from soley forum users. My purpose is that FTR as a whole (Forums, IRC, Vent) is what made me a good player. And taking away part of that trio is taking away what I believe is a great part of this site. If i wanted to stir up trouble my post would have said "you all are assholes. discuss."
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Please don't read deeper into my comments than what I say. Thats half the problem here.
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lambchop, you're not getting banned for what you're saying in this thread. I've ALWAYS welcomed constructive criticism.

No one is shutting down the FTR IRC channels. You can continue to do what you do and invite other people to join you or whatever. We just won't advertise it here as an "official" chatroom.

I simply feel that it is unmanageable. I did not select the current Ops like I select the forum Moderators. I don't even know who made those decisions. Somewhere along the line, a lot of people were put in place with no real management skills, guidelines or policies. Some feel that IRC should be completely freeform, with little-to-no rules. Others feel it should be ruled with an iron fist. So who is right?

Part of our inability to manage it and prevent the flame wars and all the drama we've seen in the last few months is because none of us Admins have the desire or time to sit in the IRC channel and keep abreast of all that is going on there. I personally don't think it's a manageable format.

If we keep it as an "official" chatroom, issues and conflicts that occur there will naturally flow into our forums. If we separate ourselves from it, we can rightfully prevent those same issues from being posted about here in our forums.

As for you saying "if you don't like the thread, just ignore it," that goes against everything the Admins and FTR stand for. We are not like those other troll forums. We will not tolerate anyone flaming another member. The friendly atmosphere that we try to maintain here is sacred and I will NOT let anyone spoil that.
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its HARDLY beyond repair. hell i like irc more than i like the forums.

and gabe, i always thought you were one of the best mtt players here. i dont think you need to pick one side (forum v irc) here. i always liked when you came into chat. come back .
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lambchop, you're not getting banned for what you're saying in this thread. I've ALWAYS welcomed constructive criticism.

No one is shutting down the FTR IRC channels. You can continue to do what you do and invite other people to join you or whatever. We just won't advertise it here as an "official" chatroom.

I simply feel that it is unmanageable. I did not select the current Ops like I select the forum Moderators. I don't even know who made those decisions. Somewhere along the line, a lot of people were put in place with no real management skills, guidelines or policies. Some feel that IRC should be completely freeform, with little-to-no rules. Others feel it should be ruled with an iron fist. So who is right?

Part of our inability to manage it and prevent the flame wars and all the drama we've seen in the last few months is because none of us Admins have the desire or time to sit in the IRC channel and keep abreast of all that is going on there. I personally don't think it's a manageable format.

If we keep it as an "official" chatroom, issues and conflicts that occur there will naturally flow into our forums. If we separate ourselves from it, we can rightfully prevent those same issues from being posted about here in our forums.

As for you saying "if you don't like the thread, just ignore it," that goes against everything the Admins and FTR stand for. We are not like those other troll forums. We will not tolerate anyone flaming another member. The friendly atmosphere that we try to maintain here is sacred and I will NOT let anyone spoil that.
I fully agree with the IRC flame threads here. That I get. All i'm saying is that had I never found the thread leading me to IRC, I would have made 10k less than I've made right now. I think a link leading to the IRC channel saying that is there for discussion outside the forums is fine. Just state that the IRC chat is "user-owned" and does reflect the mods, admins of this forum, etc. Banning the IRC related posts just the way you are now if perfectly appropriate. I just think that the opportunity for users to discover IRC should be available to them.
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Well, from my standpoint, we (the admins) never moderated IRC, never really got involved with IRC, we didn't set it up, we don't own it or disown it, we really have nothing to do with it, it just got filled with people that came from FTR, so we linked to it. That was basically the extent of our involvement - a link. Xianti did try to organize mod's or procedures to help a lending hand, but I don't think that went anywhere. The one thing we did see was all the drama and bitching bleed over from IRC into our forums. I still hope the IRC survives and helps people.

Anyway, back to lambchop's post - jeez, I don't hate IRC, I just don't like any bad blood spewing in the forums regardless of where it came from. You're right, I don't have to read them or whatever, but it's not that, we want a friendly community for everyone here... and for the new people discovering us every day. You know, advice, goodwill, fun and laughs type of thing. That's what has attracted a lot of people, and kept people coming back.

I think it's great that you and Doggz and others are working to clean up IRC.

With regards to IQ in the forums? I think there is, that's my opinion, I think the forums have helped a lot of people. We hear about it. But, it's not for everyone.

Dude, we're not going to delete your post and ban you - where'd that come from?

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I agree entirely, but Tim V. posting tons of pictures of his woman...totally stupid and unnecessary also. And when we decided to make fun of it, we got our post deleted. Apparantly unnecessary is ok as long as the mods agree with it.
I don't know anything about what Tim was doing in IRC. All I know is that thread about his girlfriend seemed way out of line. I mean if someone has issue with someone else, well that happens, but it doesn't need to publicly be displayed in our forums - again, it's about the environment we are trying to maintain here at FTR - it's not about not liking IRC.

I don't know if I came off as a "whiny baby" or not, hopefully not cuz that would suck.
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I agree entirely, but Tim V. posting tons of pictures of his woman...totally stupid and unnecessary also. And when we decided to make fun of it, we got our post deleted. Apparantly unnecessary is ok as long as the mods agree with it.
don't know anything about what Tim was doing in IRC.
Tim wasn't in IRC. If you notice, the "Official Tim's Girlfriend is not that Hot Thread" was a parody of Tim's own "The Official Tim's Girlfriend Thread." Apparantly some people didn't get that and took it way out of hand. My reference in this post was to point out to Gabe that there are plenty of "stupid and unnecessary" posts in the Community. But only those that people don't agree with get the backlash.

BTW, you're not being whiny, I appreciate the responses.
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