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    Default FBI seizes domains of pokerstars, full tilt, ub.. (UPDATE: Howard Lederer Interview)

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    PokerStarsSteve replies on 2p2, doesn't say much - Two Plus Two Poker Forums - View Single Post - Trouble: Online poker web sites seized by the FBI (Stars + Tilt included)

    As you may have heard, PokerStars has had to suspend real money poker services to people based in the US due to legal developments there. These developments are confined to the US and do not have any impact on the ability of players outside the US to continue using PokerStars services.

    Please be assured player balances are safe. There is no cause for concern about loss of funds in your PokerStars account. For all customers outside the US it is business as usual.

    The PokerStars website has been moved to Online Poker Games | Play for Free Texas Holdem | PokerStars, and the PokerStars Support email address is now support@pokerstars.eu. PokerStars apologises to all players for any inconvenience caused by this disruption.

    Please be aware that PokerStars Support is currently experiencing a very high volume of emails, so response times are delayed. Player emails will be answered as quickly as possible.

    It is understood that many players, especially those from the US, may have additional questions or concerns about these changes, account status, and cashouts. The information above is all the information available at this time. PokerStars management and legal team continues to review the situation and will provide additional information it becomes available.

    As there is no additional information available to pass on, I will not be answering follow-up questions at this time. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.
    FullTiltPoker.com moves to FullTiltPoker.co.uk, PokerStars.com moves to PokerStars.eu
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    - Apparently PokerStars has been calling their high stakes pros and regulars ensuring the money is safe.
    - Jungleman was saying "I think the money is safe" wrt to Full Tilt.


    UIGEA and IGPEA Bills - Bill Text - 109th Congress (2005-2006) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

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    HOW ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?!?!?!

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    FULlTILTPOKER.com

    point to scary FBI warning images... O.o

    (P.S. Sorry rilla for introducing poker in the commune, but I figured this was warranted)

    Update: the software itself still works. You can still play poker like normal. Presumably those are based off of specific ISPs and not off of the domains. However, this could be a harbinger of things to come.

    2nd Update: uh...Pokerstars is no longer letting US players play on their clients. O.o
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    this sucks
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    mine still work fine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    mine still work fine?
    Give your ISP time to catch up.
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    jesus shit, so what does this mean? are we not going to be able to get our money off there?
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    asdflnasdlfmkasl this sucks so bad
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    I'm taking PS transfers for 10% vig, lmk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos View Post
    I'm taking PS transfers for 10% vig, lmk.
    def interested , dont want to spazz and do it until i hear from some other people regarding what they think is going to happen (i realize we are all largely in the dark on this but surely some people have a better grasp on the situation than i do)
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    how come in bikes link it says april 11 in the url but the document clearly says april 15th
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    Haha the panic has set in... idk how serious it is, was half-joking. I'd assume ppl are overreacting?
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    i def am both panicked and over reacting lol
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    wtffffff

    cant connect to 2p2
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    lol i was on 2p2 then i read this and refreshed and now i cant either lol wtffff
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    2p2 probably just overloaded

    there were 5k+ people in NVG alone the last time I could connect
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    Only Fulltilt's page is showing the "scary FBI logos" for me.
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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    ofc there are a quarter million people playing on Stars right now, so their lawyer fees for the next 10 years will be covered by rake/fees over the next 20 minutes
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    well all we can really do is wait for things to unfold, speculation until the informed people make their opinions known is kinda pointless.
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    Would this mean that just the websites are seized, or that the clients couldn't run?
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    I'm not sure why the sites are down but the clients are still operational

    no one is having issues connecting to the clients AFAIK
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    clients work fine for me
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    These are the final days of freedom in America. Get to your guns!
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    clients work for me
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    Two Plus Two Poker Forums - View Single Post - April **** THREAD

    Quote Originally Posted by BalugaWhale
    reading this news bit: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html

    makes me 99% positive the sites are going to lose any legal battle. given that the fed will ask for billions in penalties, i think there is a pretty decent chance we will lose whatever funds we have on FT/PS/UB. Also, cashing out is probably not going to happen very successfully (currently been waiting on 20k+ from FT over a month). Either way, the mad dash to cash out will work against the fact that FT probably has few or no remaining processors.

    tough breaks
    Though his link is dead for me...
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    beginning of the end ... until new legislation
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    Cashout request time: 2011/04/15 14:20 ET

    Cashout amount: USD x,xxx.xx


    USD x,xxx.xx has been credited to your ECHECK account (1***************xxx).

    Please allow 3-10 business days for this transaction to show up on your statement.

    **IMPORTANT - This transaction will appear on your bank statement as PStars (or an abbreviated version)
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    I'm sick to my stomach. I'd kindly ask Tyson to start a transfers forum here on FTR that only allows trusted members to transfer between each other. I'm sure the Euros will be interested in getting a vig and Americans will avoid the falling sky.

    This is 100x better than trusting some random on 2+2. Please to help FTR.

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    Haven't tried to withdraw yet. I just figured that all the bank accounts and processors are already shut down/seized.
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    boog just got a check from stars this week that bounced
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    o didnt see boog was in this thread already, hello boog....but yea i agree, alexos start getting money on paypal lol
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    So are Ivey and them in deep shit over this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos View Post
    Haha the panic has set in... idk how serious it is, was half-joking. I'd assume ppl are overreacting?
    Alexos wins with the avatar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73 View Post
    Well, that's just... that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    I'm sick to my stomach. I'd kindly ask Tyson to start a transfers forum here on FTR that only allows trusted members to transfer between each other. I'm sure the Euros will be interested in getting a vig and Americans will avoid the falling sky.

    This is 100x better than trusting some random on 2+2. Please to help FTR.
    Trying to get some signal from all the noise, *THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA*.

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    i'll get ahold of whoever to see what i can do
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensign_lee View Post
    Trying to get some signal from all the noise, *THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA*.

    Radmins, can you make it so?
    I don't see this as a good idea for the admins, this could be misconstrued as laundering or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73 View Post
    I don't see this as a good idea for the admins, this could be misconstrued as laundering or something.
    Yeah, anyone involved in this may want to get some sort of expert legal opinion before moving forward. You have to assume that the financial transactions across the sites aren't being hidden from the feds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Yeah, anyone involved in this may want to get some sort of expert legal opinion before moving forward. You have to assume that the financial transactions across the sites aren't being hidden from the feds.
    sending out emails for you guys now i guess
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    also who knows if you can even transfer funds right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73 View Post
    also who knows if you can even transfer funds right now
    I received an FTP transfer no less than 15 minutes ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    Yeah, anyone involved in this may want to get some sort of expert legal opinion before moving forward. You have to assume that the financial transactions across the sites aren't being hidden from the feds.
    I'm sure Tyson will cover his bases in regard to this.

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    wtf


    ante up with your ass cuz you ain't got a penny
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    tyty bb ur the mane
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    I received an FTP transfer no less than 15 minutes ago.

    I'm sure Tyson will cover his bases in regard to this.
    It's also directed at any Canadian looking to facilitate. They're probably safe, but I don't think this is the time to grab at some cash without appraising the true risks.

    And also the Americans looking to move money through a money launderer, to a Canadian, and back to themselves. You should be careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    It's also direct at any Canadian looking to facilitate. They're probably safe, but I don't think this is the time to grab at some cash without appraising the true risks.

    And also the Americans looking to move money through a money launderer, to a Canadian, and back to themselves. You should be careful.
    Agree with this. tbh I think the best course of action right now is to just do nothing until we have more info
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    boog just got a check from stars this week that bounced
    Confirmed.

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