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04-15-2011, 06:38 PM
Post subject: FBI seizes domains of pokerstars, full tilt, ub.. (UPDATE: PokerStars purchases FTP?)
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CURRENT UPDATES
DOJ Press Release - http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf
DOJ Indictment - Indictment: DOJ vs. Scheinberg, Bitar, Tom, et al
Wynn/PokerStars and Full Tilt/Fertitta Interactive Deal is Over - Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown - WSJ.com and Steve Wynn Cuts Ties With Embattled Online Poker Site, PokerStars - Steven Bertoni - Money Talks - Forbes
Full Tilt's Announcement About Pulling out of US - Full Tilt Poker Statement - Pulling Out of US Market
Full Tilt's Statement Regarding Withdrawals, doesn't say much - Statement from Full Tilt Poker Regarding Recent Check Withdrawal Issues
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In light of recent events involving the freezing of certain accounts, Full Tilt Poker would like to assure all players that their funds remain safe and secure. Processing of both deposit and withdrawal requests is proceeding as normal and is still available to all of our players.
All players who were affected by the current situation have had their funds returned to their accounts and all new withdrawal requests are processing normally. We assure all players on Full Tilt Poker that your online playing experience will not change and that you will be able to both deposit and withdraw funds as needed. Your money remains safe, secure and accessible at all times.
Full Tilt Poker remains committed to the protection of our players’ security and legal rights, and will continue to provide the best and safest online poker room available worldwide.
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PokerStarsSteve replies on 2p2, doesn't say much - Two Plus Two Poker Forums - View Single Post - Trouble: Online poker web sites seized by the FBI (Stars + Tilt included)
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As you may have heard, PokerStars has had to suspend real money poker services to people based in the US due to legal developments there. These developments are confined to the US and do not have any impact on the ability of players outside the US to continue using PokerStars services.
Please be assured player balances are safe. There is no cause for concern about loss of funds in your PokerStars account. For all customers outside the US it is business as usual.
The PokerStars website has been moved to Online Poker Games | Play for Free Texas Holdem | PokerStars, and the PokerStars Support email address is now support@pokerstars.eu. PokerStars apologises to all players for any inconvenience caused by this disruption.
Please be aware that PokerStars Support is currently experiencing a very high volume of emails, so response times are delayed. Player emails will be answered as quickly as possible.
It is understood that many players, especially those from the US, may have additional questions or concerns about these changes, account status, and cashouts. The information above is all the information available at this time. PokerStars management and legal team continues to review the situation and will provide additional information it becomes available.
As there is no additional information available to pass on, I will not be answering follow-up questions at this time. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.
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FullTiltPoker.com moves to FullTiltPoker.co.uk, PokerStars.com moves to PokerStars.eu
Live QuadJacks USTREAM show talking about the issues - QuadJacks Black Friday on USTREAM: QuadJacks and friends reflect upon the current state of online poker in America, after the clusterfuck that befell it on...
Not Yet Confirmed Updates
- Apparently PokerStars has been calling their high stakes pros and regulars ensuring the money is safe.
- Jungleman was saying "I think the money is safe" wrt to Full Tilt.
UIGEA and IGPEA Bills - Bill Text - 109th Congress (2005-2006) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
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HOW ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?!?!?!
POKERSTARS.com
FULlTILTPOKER.com
point to scary FBI warning images... O.o
(P.S. Sorry rilla for introducing poker in the commune, but I figured this was warranted)
Update: the software itself still works. You can still play poker like normal. Presumably those are based off of specific ISPs and not off of the domains. However, this could be a harbinger of things to come. 
2nd Update: uh...Pokerstars is no longer letting US players play on their clients. O.o
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bigspenda73
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this sucks
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philly and the phanatics
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mine still work fine?
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf
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mine still work fine?
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Give your ISP time to catch up. 
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
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jesus shit, so what does this mean? are we not going to be able to get our money off there?
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
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asdflnasdlfmkasl this sucks so bad
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Alexos
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I'm taking PS transfers for 10% vig, lmk.
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philly and the phanatics
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I'm taking PS transfers for 10% vig, lmk.
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def interested , dont want to spazz and do it until i hear from some other people regarding what they think is going to happen (i realize we are all largely in the dark on this but surely some people have a better grasp on the situation than i do)
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Full House
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how come in bikes link it says april 11 in the url but the document clearly says april 15th
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Haha the panic has set in... idk how serious it is, was half-joking. I'd assume ppl are overreacting?
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Nine to five is how to survive - I ain't trying to survive / I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot //
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
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i def am both panicked and over reacting lol
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wufwugy
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wtffffff
cant connect to 2p2
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
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lol i was on 2p2 then i read this and refreshed and now i cant either lol wtffff
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2p2 probably just overloaded
there were 5k+ people in NVG alone the last time I could connect
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KoRnholio
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Only Fulltilt's page is showing the "scary FBI logos" for me.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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bigspenda73
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ofc there are a quarter million people playing on Stars right now, so their lawyer fees for the next 10 years will be covered by rake/fees over the next 20 minutes
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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well all we can really do is wait for things to unfold, speculation until the informed people make their opinions known is kinda pointless.
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Would this mean that just the websites are seized, or that the clients couldn't run?
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I'm not sure why the sites are down but the clients are still operational
no one is having issues connecting to the clients AFAIK
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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clients work fine for me
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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These are the final days of freedom in America. Get to your guns!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Full House
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clients work for me
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DOJ indicts founders of top US online poker sites - MarketWatch
Doesn't seem like a good thing.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Two Plus Two Poker Forums - View Single Post - April **** THREAD
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Originally Posted by BalugaWhale
reading this news bit: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html
makes me 99% positive the sites are going to lose any legal battle. given that the fed will ask for billions in penalties, i think there is a pretty decent chance we will lose whatever funds we have on FT/PS/UB. Also, cashing out is probably not going to happen very successfully (currently been waiting on 20k+ from FT over a month). Either way, the mad dash to cash out will work against the fact that FT probably has few or no remaining processors.
tough breaks |
Though his link is dead for me...
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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kfaess
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beginning of the end ... until new legislation
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Cashout request time: 2011/04/15 14:20 ET
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Please allow 3-10 business days for this transaction to show up on your statement.
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I'm sick to my stomach. I'd kindly ask Tyson to start a transfers forum here on FTR that only allows trusted members to transfer between each other. I'm sure the Euros will be interested in getting a vig and Americans will avoid the falling sky.
This is 100x better than trusting some random on 2+2. Please to help FTR.
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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kfaess
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Haven't tried to withdraw yet. I just figured that all the bank accounts and processors are already shut down/seized.
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Full House
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boog just got a check from stars this week that bounced 
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o didnt see boog was in this thread already, hello boog....but yea i agree, alexos start getting money on paypal lol
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Poker Websites Targeted in Federal Crackdown - WSJ.com
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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bigspenda73
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So are Ivey and them in deep shit over this?
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexos
Haha the panic has set in... idk how serious it is, was half-joking. I'd assume ppl are overreacting?
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Alexos wins with the avatar.
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Well, that's just... that.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Originally Posted by BooG690
I'm sick to my stomach. I'd kindly ask Tyson to start a transfers forum here on FTR that only allows trusted members to transfer between each other. I'm sure the Euros will be interested in getting a vig and Americans will avoid the falling sky.
This is 100x better than trusting some random on 2+2. Please to help FTR.
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Trying to get some signal from all the noise, *THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA*.
Radmins, can you make it so?
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i'll get ahold of whoever to see what i can do
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Originally Posted by ensign_lee
Trying to get some signal from all the noise, *THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA*.
Radmins, can you make it so?
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I don't see this as a good idea for the admins, this could be misconstrued as laundering or something.
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
I don't see this as a good idea for the admins, this could be misconstrued as laundering or something.
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Yeah, anyone involved in this may want to get some sort of expert legal opinion before moving forward. You have to assume that the financial transactions across the sites aren't being hidden from the feds.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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Yeah, anyone involved in this may want to get some sort of expert legal opinion before moving forward. You have to assume that the financial transactions across the sites aren't being hidden from the feds.
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sending out emails for you guys now i guess
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also who knows if you can even transfer funds right now
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also who knows if you can even transfer funds right now
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I received an FTP transfer no less than 15 minutes ago.
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Yeah, anyone involved in this may want to get some sort of expert legal opinion before moving forward. You have to assume that the financial transactions across the sites aren't being hidden from the feds.
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I'm sure Tyson will cover his bases in regard to this.
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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tyty bb ur the mane
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I received an FTP transfer no less than 15 minutes ago.
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It's also directed at any Canadian looking to facilitate. They're probably safe, but I don't think this is the time to grab at some cash without appraising the true risks.
And also the Americans looking to move money through a money launderer, to a Canadian, and back to themselves. You should be careful.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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kfaess
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
It's also direct at any Canadian looking to facilitate. They're probably safe, but I don't think this is the time to grab at some cash without appraising the true risks.
And also the Americans looking to move money through a money launderer, to a Canadian, and back to themselves. You should be careful.
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Agree with this. tbh I think the best course of action right now is to just do nothing until we have more info
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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics
boog just got a check from stars this week that bounced |
Confirmed.
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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Good luck all.
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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