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    BREAKING: GBT and DOJ Strike Deal, FTP Sale Pending | Subject: Poker

    After weeks of waiting, Subject: Poker can confirm that Groupe Bernard Tapie and the US Department of Justice have come to terms that allows GBT’s acquisition of Full Tilt Poker to continue. If FTP’s current shareholders agree to acquisition of their company, this deal with the DOJ will provide for payment of all players worldwide.

    Multiple sources have confirmed to S:P that the following email went out this morning to Tiltware shareholders from Ray Bitar:

    Dear members,

    I am pleased to announce that today the Department of Justice and Groupe Bernard Tapie have reached an agreement in principle regarding the acquisition of the companies comprising FullTiltPoker. My understanding is the deal provides that in exchange for an agreed upon payment by GBT, and a GBT commitment to assume responsibility for payment of ROW players, DoJ will reimburse US players and settle the outstanding civil litigation with the companies comprising FTP. Beyond these conditions, issues like the time frame and process for repayment of players remain unclear at this point and time.

    With DoJ’s consent now in hand, GBT may now proceed to finalize an agreement to acquire the companies or assets that comprise FTP. That agreement will very likely address the status of your shares or interests in the successor company. When I receive that agreement, I will coordinate with our attorneys to ensure the terms of that proposed agreement will be shared with the membership and voted on.

    -Ray

    Final details are still being worked out between GBT and the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York. Subject: Poker hopes to be able to report the full terms of the deal in the coming days. Once this is complete, Groupe Bernard Tapie will be able to propose a deal to acquire Full Tilt Poker directly to its shareholders. Members representing two thirds of ownership interest must vote to approve any such deal.

    Subject: Poker has confirmed from numerous sources that, if shareholders agree to GBT’s proposal, Groupe Bernard Tapie will assume responsibility of Full Tilt’s debt to non-US players and the US DOJ will set up a fund to repay US players. We do not know at this time what the timeline for such repayment will be.

    If current FTP shareholders agree to the sale, GBT can move on to licensing, making the new company one step closer to launch.1

    Again, Subject: Poker is activelyworking to bring our readers the full details of the deal, and we will publish what we know as soon as possible. We typically do not publish such information with so little detail, but we felt that this situation warranted fast publication.
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    Obv this is awesome... but I do kind of wish that GBT was dishing out my money, not the DOJ. But then again, after the phone surveys... maybe having the DOJ, who presumably has 100 pennies sitting in seized accounts, pay us out is best?
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    Groupe Bernard Tapie to buy Full Tilt Poker - Yahoo! Finance


    As part of the deal, the French firm will take responsibility for the burned players outside the U.S., while the Department of Justice will facilitate paybacks to the American gamblers who lost about $150 million. American players will have to apply to the DOJ for compensation.
    won't feel real until I see the money but...
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    i guess was also announced on Fox news and confirmed by FTP lawyer (per 2+2)
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    Yahoo article is down for me.

    BREAKING: DOJ and GBT Ink Their Deal, FTP/GBT Next in the Queue | Subject: Poker

    FTP’s shareholders still must agree to the forfeiture of the companies’ assets in order for the deal to move forward.
    <-- cautiously excited
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    Lederer's never gonna agree to the forfeiture of his black card.
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    Man, I hope the DOJ handles this well. It should be a really simple process, but obviously it's something that could easily be fucked up by some incompetent bureaucrats.

    Take a look at the IRS for example. I can file online, and I get my return in a matter of days. If it takes the DOJ like 6 months + to figure this out, it would just be a shame.
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    I can't see the doj being in any rush to hand over vast sums of money.
    With a bit of luck, his life was ruined forever. Always thinking that just behind some narrow door in all of his favorite bars, men in red woolen shirts are getting incredible kicks from things he'll never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    I can't see the doj being in any rush to hand over vast sums of money.
    Maybe not a big rush, but what exactly is their incentive to hold onto it? I wouldn't imagine that they can use the money, so it really does them no good to hold onto it.
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    logic not government's strong point imo
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    slowest board run out ever
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    Made the front page online, not bad.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/us...rtment.html?hp

    Cliffs: DoJ reads Wire Act.
    Ich grolle nicht...
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    slowest board run out ever
    rofl
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    [20:19] <Zill4> u guys
    [20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illfavor View Post
    Made the front page online, not bad.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/us...rtment.html?hp

    Cliffs: DoJ reads Wire Act.
    FTR does news too you know

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    he should be crucified
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzzz_321 View Post
    he should be crucified
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    god damn


    ante up with your ass cuz you ain't got a penny
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    have never trusted long hairs
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    http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/...pay-dirt-11874

    kinda nice news after i want to stake jesus through his ankles
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    ya, that is def good news. Let's just hope that it wasn't written prior to the Jesus stuff hitting the press.
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    one fucking time

    btw, getting paid would be so sweet now, because enough time has elapsed where I no longer think of the money as mine. Pretty much freerollin now.
    Last edited by boost; 02-01-2012 at 04:45 AM.
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    +1

    Surprise check for like $1.2k (forget how much now :S) would be pretty sexcellent to go w/ tax returns.
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    bling blang blaow

    let's keep this momentum rolling...
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    honestly, it seems like Greenstein is on point here. It is highly likely that American players, if they see money at all, see less than 100c on the dollar. So why should American pros settle their debt with GBT, instead of paying into the pool that will make American players whole? Obviously I want the deal to go through, but that doesn't mean GBT is the infallible hero of the story.
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    PokerUpdate » Full Tilt - Spoke Too Soon?

    bikes your link is broken, they had a typo and fixed it
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    Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.

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    excuse me while i completely discard any hope i had accumulated over the past 2 months. not so much for myself, cause i had mebbe 2-3k in lost monies but i have a lot of friends with fuck tons of monies there and this is completely shitty news for them.
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    If things ever start to look like Fulltilt will be returning funds or that you American folk may be allowed to play again, can someone post it in a new thread, I'm sick of coming in here to check, it's depressing.
    With a bit of luck, his life was ruined forever. Always thinking that just behind some narrow door in all of his favorite bars, men in red woolen shirts are getting incredible kicks from things he'll never know.
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    http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/...or-board-11965

    worth noting this author has done many articles re: the deal and most of them were negative.
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    fucking roller coaster.
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    Just give me my money you fucking crook.

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    Goddammit. Every time this thread is bumped it's like watching a super hot chick walk into the room by herself then kiss the guy sitting at the bar. Hopes, crushed.
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    Why do you care if I'm sitting at the bar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarGrinder View Post
    Goddammit. Every time this thread is bumped it's like watching a chick walk into the room by herself then kiss the super hot guy sitting at the bar. Hopes, crushed.
    fyp thought it suited you more this way
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