Btw, happy MLK day. Are you still surprised by the reaction?
01-16-2017 01:22 PM
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Btw, happy MLK day. Are you still surprised by the reaction? | |
01-16-2017 01:22 PM
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So he has some highlights on his resume, that makes him immune to criticism forever? "all talk, no action" is taken completely out of context. It's part of a larger sentence that clearly references the CURRENT state of his district, which has higher rates of poverty than the national average. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 01-16-2017 at 01:36 PM. | |
01-16-2017 01:26 PM
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This shitstorm started Saturday as far as I can tell. Exactly how long is MLK day? |
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01-16-2017 01:34 PM
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So you are surprised then? You seem to be attacking me and going on a rant about who is above scrutiny or whatever. You're missing the point. I'm not suggesting one side is right or wrong. | |
01-16-2017 01:36 PM
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Honestly, the more itellectually interesting question is whether Trump is deliberately baiting these responses. | |
01-16-2017 01:40 PM
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Because of the source. If it was some garbage heap like Salon.com, or a desperate-for-attention pundit on MSNBC I wouldnt' be surprised. |
01-16-2017 01:43 PM
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01-16-2017 02:24 PM
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The wording appears to be a mistake by Trump. In context, he said "all talk, no action" regarding the last several decades when Lewis has been all talk, no action. But those word choices are too easily conflated with Lewis' life in entirety, so adversaries to Trump jump to calling it Trump disparaging a particular time and way in which Lewis was not all talk, no action. |
01-16-2017 02:29 PM
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01-16-2017 02:32 PM
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If we're being intellectually honest here, I think the interpretation is that Trump was attacked by a person making a very stupid claim (Trump is illegitimate), then he responded by attacking the awful performance of his attacker on a very important issue of inner cities, and then his attacker (and most of the media) straw manned and claimed Trump was attacking Civil Rights. |
01-16-2017 02:35 PM
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01-16-2017 02:36 PM
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C'mon, Trump loves black people. Haven't you seen him hanging out with Don King and Steve Harvey? | |
01-16-2017 02:38 PM
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He certainly likes them more than Obama ever did. |
01-16-2017 02:40 PM
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They'll skewer him for that too. See, he's doing it all wrong. |
01-16-2017 02:52 PM
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Oh they've already perverted his legacy. If he was alive today, he would be an Uncle Tom no different than people like Sowell or Sheriff David Clarke. |
01-16-2017 02:58 PM
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01-17-2017 09:57 AM
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http://www.infowars.com/report-cnnbu...-inauguration/ | |
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01-17-2017 11:37 AM
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I can think of at least two reasons. |
01-17-2017 11:44 AM
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There doesn't seem to be much more to this story other than the rantings of Tom Arnold. And if I recall, those are old news. Like, before the election, old news. If we were going to see it, we would have seen it already. |
01-17-2017 12:03 PM
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Yeah that's a reasonable analysis, cheers. | |
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01-17-2017 12:29 PM
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Another reason you might not see this video is that the Dems are simply 'conserving ammo' until 2020. No sense in emptying the clip now. |
01-17-2017 01:12 PM
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01-17-2017 01:26 PM
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Last edited by BananaStand; 01-17-2017 at 01:31 PM. | |
01-17-2017 01:30 PM
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Yeah I mean no doubt this footage is years old. When was he on the Apprentice? | |
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01-17-2017 05:25 PM
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If it was true it would have leaked before the election day. Consider that this is coming on the heels of Trump blasting how badly the new Apprentice is doing. Consider also that the story aligns with adversaries' absolute favorite myth about Trump: that he hates black people. Too nose scratchy. |
01-17-2017 05:41 PM
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The fact it's come from Infowars, a pro-Trump source, is the reason I haven't just dismissed it outright. | |
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01-17-2017 05:48 PM
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I guess that's true, but I'll be honest that I categorize InfoWars as fake news just as well as the MSM. They report on so much unverified shit that doesn't turn out to be true. That's what CNN and Buzzfeed just did. |
01-17-2017 07:23 PM
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I remember hearing about it years ago. | |
01-17-2017 10:17 PM
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You're like that cunt of a kid at school that liked everything before it was cool, aren't you? | |
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01-17-2017 10:18 PM
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If Trump said that ^ to someone, he'd probably get accused of a hate crime. | |
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01-17-2017 10:52 PM
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I've said far worse than Trump has. I've friends who think Trump has said too horrible things for them to support him who have also said far worse. |
01-17-2017 11:10 PM
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If an American Citizen has said horrible things, then its ok for the President of the United States to say bad things. | |
01-17-2017 11:45 PM
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Shitposting goes over there. |
01-18-2017 03:59 AM
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Depends on context as far as 'n' word goes. But calling your autistic son a retard (if that's what he did) is pretty awful regardless of context. | |
01-18-2017 04:25 AM
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oooooooh, interesting... | |
01-18-2017 09:19 AM
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I kinda remember I did too. If I'm being totally honest, I believe this tape exists, and I believe it contains everything they say it does. Trump dodged a bullet by saying it off-camera. That's all. At the same time though, I really don't care at this point. Trump has said plenty of stuff that *should* have been his undoing, and it wasn't. Unless he says something treason-ish, it's water under the bridge now. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 01-18-2017 at 09:42 AM. | |
01-18-2017 09:40 AM
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http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/1...otests-manning |
01-18-2017 10:48 AM
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01-18-2017 11:16 AM
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The Prez should be the most perfect human being on the planet. I hope he never says "shit" when he discovers there's no bog roll. | |
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01-18-2017 02:57 PM
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C'mon man. Aren't you being just a little bit glib? |
01-18-2017 06:08 PM
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I don't mean to suggest that the President shouldn't guard what he says. On the contrary, it is more important that he says the right thing than any other person on the planet. |
01-18-2017 06:20 PM
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This Ben Swann fella seems to be a real gangster. |
01-18-2017 06:25 PM
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BREAKING: Ben Swann commits suicide by three shots to the back of the head. |
01-18-2017 06:29 PM
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BTW he ain't joking about that dude's instagram. Although it's not proof and I can't prove pizzagate, I entered into the "I personally believe it" realm back when I checked out his instagram. If you didn't even have pedophilia on the mind and you saw the pics he has, you'd be "is this dude a pedo?" |
01-18-2017 07:52 PM
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01-18-2017 09:44 PM
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01-18-2017 10:03 PM
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01-18-2017 10:15 PM
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I think statements can provide insight into someone's character. I also think the context of statements can be politicized. But I don't think presidents should get a free pass on everything they've ever said, and I don't think it's stupid to care about that. | |
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01-18-2017 10:45 PM
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I don't disagree. Here's an example of the kind of thing I'm referring to: a friend was upset about Trump having told Howard Stern in 2005 that it's hard for a woman to be a 10 if very flat-chested. She thought that was demeaning to women. I pointed out to her that she has said (and I have said) much more demeaning things about women, and she, well, more or less acknowledged so, and that was that. |
01-18-2017 10:46 PM
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^^That example is not demeaning btw. But that's beside the point. The pussy grabbing statement isn't demeaning either. |
01-19-2017 08:39 AM
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You're just trolling now. Who is this person you think should be president who has never said anything controversial, offensive, or opinionated? Are you saying only a sinless angel can be president and everyone else is disqualified? |
01-19-2017 08:41 AM
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And honestly, stop with the Pizzagate stuff folks. It's not real. It's been exposed exhaustively as a hoax. Continuing to beat that drum just makes you sound crazy, and therefore diminishes the gravity of everything else you say. |
01-19-2017 09:35 AM
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01-19-2017 09:46 AM
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01-19-2017 09:57 AM
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Some highlights: | |
01-19-2017 11:23 AM
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No, you're 'simplifying'. Way way way simplifying. Not the same as 'summarizing'. |
01-19-2017 11:49 AM
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Who exposed it as a hoax? The New York Times? | |
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01-19-2017 12:56 PM
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Pretty much every journalistic establishment in the world that is even slightly reputable believes that it's nonsense. |
01-19-2017 01:20 PM
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Fake news is only fake when it's attacking our side. When it's making the other guy look bad it's very credible. | |
01-19-2017 01:25 PM
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01-19-2017 01:35 PM
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01-19-2017 01:43 PM
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'Our' side is whichever side the poster happens to be on. | |
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01-19-2017 02:09 PM
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I certainly understand the human instinct to fill in answers where there are none. It's obviously a forceful compulsion. I mean, how many billions of people on this earth believe in religion? |
01-19-2017 02:14 PM
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I dunno about lizards, but alien... maybe. | |
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01-19-2017 02:22 PM
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Ong, just out of curiosity, why do you care so much? Is this part of your Hillary hatred, or is it just a side interest? | |
01-19-2017 02:23 PM
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01-19-2017 02:26 PM
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01-19-2017 02:30 PM
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01-19-2017 02:30 PM
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01-19-2017 02:31 PM
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I mean what do you care if Hitler killed 6 million Jews? Did he kill you? No! | |
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01-19-2017 02:31 PM
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Of course I should probably investigate further before opining since Jizzfeed is equally unreliable. |
01-19-2017 02:34 PM
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It hasn't been exposed as a hoax. It hasn't been exposed as anything. It is not public knowledge that it has even been investigated. I'm not saying it should be investigated; perhaps the signs are not distinguishable enough from coincidence that it doesn't warrant an investigation. But the only thing that can be demonstrated to be hoax-y is so-called journalists who claim it is a proven hoax. |
01-19-2017 02:39 PM
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01-19-2017 02:45 PM
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Or maybe you already had a rock solid alibi. You were in the US running the most expensive presidential campaign in history. And why would you be 'straight on the phone'? Why is it your responsibility to monitor police investigations in foreign countries on the off chance an efit of a suspect looks like you? And even if you did notice such a thing, what kind of attention are you bringing on yourself if call them up demanding they eliminate you as a suspect? |
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01-19-2017 02:45 PM
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I doubt what goes on with pizzagate would change any of that. Nobody cared about the MSM lying about these things before. Indeed, it may be because of the whole fake news accusation by the MSM and people like Cernovich turning it around on them that people are even looking at the MSM fakery with scrutiny now. |