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Grand_MasterB
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10-12-2005, 03:20 PM
Post subject: Early leans for 10/15, 10/16 weekend
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 466
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Some early looks
NCAA (4-5 year to date)
OK under 43.5
Mich under 43.5
Purdue -7 (my favorite play so far)
Penn St +3.5
NFL (10-4-1 year to date)
Giants +3.5
Minnesota +3
Jets O33.5
i will narrow these down and probably add a few as the week goes on and i get to look more in depth at the games. Any thoughts guys?
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DoGGz
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I like the giants with jones looking to be on the bench. I will probably make a bet on that game close to the weekend as we know for sure if he is playing or not.
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DoGGz
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PICK OF THE WEEK (NFL 2-2-1)
Seahawks -10(-105) over the Texans.
On the surface, 10 points looks like a lot. The Seahawks are not the Colts, and have been in plenty of close games this season. Their only 10 point victory is in week 3 vs the Cardinals. They don't seem to have the defence to stop opposing teams from scoring. But lets look deeper.
The Texans have looked bad, very bad. They are in a race with the 49ers to see who gets the first pick in the 06 draft. They have only had one game in which they HAVEN'T lost by more than 10, and that was to Cincy. Even the average Titans took them to the cleaners.
It gets better. Hasselbeck has been on as of late. Over the past 3 games he has thrown for over 800 yards and no interceptions. He only has 2 TD in this period, but that is simply because they have the league's leading running back in Shawn Alexander, who has SEVEN in the past 3 games.
The Seahawks are averaging over 25 points a game, while the Texans are only scoring 11. Look for the Seahawks to go up early and ice the game with a large helping of Alexander who gets 30+ carries and multiple touchdowns.
Seahawks 31
Texans 13
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DoGGz
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Originally Posted by doggz
PICK OF THE WEEK (NFL 2-2-1)
Seahawks -10(-105) over the Texans.
On the surface, 10 points looks like a lot. The Seahawks are not the Colts, and have been in plenty of close games this season. Their only 10 point victory is in week 3 vs the Cardinals. They don't seem to have the defence to stop opposing teams from scoring. But lets look deeper.
The Texans have looked bad, very bad. They are in a race with the 49ers to see who gets the first pick in the 06 draft. They have only had one game in which they HAVEN'T lost by more than 10, and that was to Cincy. Even the average Titans took them to the cleaners.
It gets better. Hasselbeck has been on as of late. Over the past 3 games he has thrown for over 800 yards and no interceptions. He only has 2 TD in this period, but that is simply because they have the league's leading running back in Shawn Alexander, who has SEVEN in the past 3 games.
The Seahawks are averaging over 25 points a game, while the Texans are only scoring 11. Look for the Seahawks to go up early and ice the game with a large helping of Alexander who gets 30+ carries and multiple touchdowns.
Seahawks 31
Texans 13
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Pinnacle has the line at -9.5(-100). All my bets have been 1 unit, but this bet is going 5 units.
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DoGGz
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I should definately waited on this bet. The line is sliding even FURTHER toward the texans. I just don't see how there is so much early action on the texans.
Lesson learned.
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Grand_MasterB
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ok here are my final bets for this weekend
Atlanta -5.5
Cincy -3 (small play)
Giants +3.5
Jets O33
NCAA
Purdue -6.5
small plays on each of the following
Texas Tech -14
Colorado +17
ND +12
may add some right before game time on sat and sunday but all those are for sure.
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doubledown
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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As a Seahawk fan I can see why the line is moving down.
1.) We get no respect in Seattle...You said we're not the Colts, We'll we do have the #1 offense in football and many of the critics are still concerned with the fact Engram and D-Jack our out of the lineup. With Holmgren's offense, it's proven that he doesn't need huge big game receivers. Look at his GB teams in the past.
2.) Handicappers are concerned with the D. Davis vs Seattle Run D match-up. This is an effect still lingering from last season. However the Hawks have been great against the run this year (S. Jackson, Portis of late). They struggled last week vs the Pass but that's against Martz's "Greatest Show on Turf." Seahawks should have no problem with the Texans weak passing game and should be able to focus on stopping the run.
3.) Seahawks Get No Respect - Did I say this already?
4.) Primetime Factor - Alexander is a monster on PrimeTime (I think the handicappers may have missed this factor)
I'm glad I held off on this game, I love the Hawks -9.
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Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you ARE the sucker.
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ensign_lee
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I have a question.
If I want to bet on the spread, with the seahawks winning by at least 10 points (-9.5 point spread), then why wouldn't I want to parlay that bet with the Seahawks winning period?
I mean, if the seahawks win by 10, then obviously, they're going to win the game.
Why would I ever not parlay these two bets?
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by ensign_lee
I have a question.
If I want to bet on the spread, with the seahawks winning by at least 10 points (-9.5 point spread), then why wouldn't I want to parlay that bet with the Seahawks winning period?
I mean, if the seahawks win by 10, then obviously, they're going to win the game.
Why would I ever not parlay these two bets?
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Just figured it out: I'm not allowed to. :P
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DoGGz
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Originally Posted by ensign_lee
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Originally Posted by ensign_lee
I have a question.
If I want to bet on the spread, with the seahawks winning by at least 10 points (-9.5 point spread), then why wouldn't I want to parlay that bet with the Seahawks winning period?
I mean, if the seahawks win by 10, then obviously, they're going to win the game.
Why would I ever not parlay these two bets?
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Just figured it out: I'm not allowed to. :P
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lol. And the moneyline is like -400. The odds would be in your favor just to double your unit bet on the spread. Pin has the hawks -9(102)!!! Damn I wish I would have waited.
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DoGGz
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Originally Posted by Grand_MasterB
ok here are my final bets for this weekend
Atlanta -5.5
Cincy -3 (small play)
Giants +3.5
Jets O33
NCAA
Purdue -6.5
small plays on each of the following
Texas Tech -14
Colorado +17
ND +12
may add some right before game time on sat and sunday but all those are for sure.
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This is an interesting game for sure. I was going to make a 1 unit play on the Giants myself, after hearing Jones will be on the sideline, but looking into further I don't know.
Look at who the Giants and Cowboys have played. The Giants have looked great so far, but the only real team they played (SD) took them to the house in the 2nd half and ran away with the game. Against some WEAK defences, Eli and the Giants are only averaging 353 yards per game. The Cowboys will be the best defence they will have seen all season and will definately put them to the test.
If anything I like the Giants Moneyline at +155. They won't be losing a close game here. Get the extra equity out of the moneyline and skip the spread on this one.
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Eric
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Originally Posted by doggz
I like the giants with jones looking to be on the bench. I will probably make a bet on that game close to the weekend as we know for sure if he is playing or not.
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I'm hoping that Tyson Thompson does a good job filling in for Jones. I picked him up for our fantasy league and started him this weekend.
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DoGGz
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Originally Posted by doggz
PICK OF THE WEEK (NFL 2-2-1)
Seahawks -10(-105) over the Texans.
On the surface, 10 points looks like a lot. The Seahawks are not the Colts, and have been in plenty of close games this season. Their only 10 point victory is in week 3 vs the Cardinals. They don't seem to have the defence to stop opposing teams from scoring. But lets look deeper.
The Texans have looked bad, very bad. They are in a race with the 49ers to see who gets the first pick in the 06 draft. They have only had one game in which they HAVEN'T lost by more than 10, and that was to Cincy. Even the average Titans took them to the cleaners.
It gets better. Hasselbeck has been on as of late. Over the past 3 games he has thrown for over 800 yards and no interceptions. He only has 2 TD in this period, but that is simply because they have the league's leading running back in Shawn Alexander, who has SEVEN in the past 3 games.
The Seahawks are averaging over 25 points a game, while the Texans are only scoring 11. Look for the Seahawks to go up early and ice the game with a large helping of Alexander who gets 30+ carries and multiple touchdowns.
Seahawks 31
Texans 13
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Looks like my first Game of the Week went as planned. Alexander put the game away with 4 touchdowns, and the Seahawks ran for over 300 total yards.
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ttanaka
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Good weekend, went 2 out of 3 with Giants +4, Seahawks -8.5, but lost Pats + 3. I'll take it.
Any thoughts on Monday Night?
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DoGGz
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Monday Night is a draw. I don't like any plays at all.
Where did you get Giants +4?
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ttanaka
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Nine.com - I shop the spreads between nine.com, vipsports, and bodog.
Nine.com has a special where you get an extra 1/2 point on bets made on Friday. This is the second time where a 1/2 - 1 point difference in spreads between the sportsbooks won my bet this NFL season.
I'm taking the under tonight - 51.5 - a small play for fun value really.
We list the spreads at http://nfl-sports-betting.flopturnriver.com , but the VIPsports one is delayed so not that accurate until you log in.
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DoGGz
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Originally Posted by ttanaka
Nine.com - I shop the spreads between nine.com, vipsports, and bodog.
Nine.com has a special where you get an extra 1/2 point on bets made on Friday. This is the second time where a 1/2 - 1 point difference in spreads between the sportsbooks won my bet this NFL season.
I'm taking the under tonight - 51.5 - a small play for fun value really.
We list the spreads at http://nfl-sports-betting.flopturnriver.com , but the VIPsports one is delayed so not that accurate until you log in.
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I see. I've been playing on pinnacle because of only 5% house juice. I got -9 (104) on the seahawks game that alone was worth a bundle
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