driving at 2am

[Greedo017]

i was driving down a country road, heavily traveled during the day but at 2am you realize you're in bfe, when a dog was running across the street, i of course nailed him. he was mostly black with some beige, german shephardy looking. i was going 65. i slowed down and thought for a minute, then just kept going. standard?

[WildBobAA]

shortstack hit and runs are so annoying

[ensign_lee]

You are a horrible person...and I'm not kidding.

You didn't even go back to check how the dog was doing? To call animal control or do anything?

[ItDepends]

Dude, there's no way I'm checking on some animal. Unless your car is broken don't even skip a beat.

[WildBobAA]

yea, no kidding, lee, you'd really get out of your car at 2am on some pitch black country road to see if the dog you just hit that probably has rabies is still a live?

[a500lbgorilla]

You are a horrible person...and I'm not kidding.

You didn't even go back to check how the dog was doing? To call animal control or do anything?

If an animal steps infront of your car, you're supposed to hit it. It's safer than swerving to dodge it.

[midas06]

yeah my mate totalled his car into a tree swerving from a cat. I laughed.

[bigred]

You are a horrible person...and I'm not kidding.

You didn't even go back to check how the dog was doing? To call animal control or do anything?

But if he swerved he'd hit one of your precious trees, hippy.

[ensign_lee]

First, I ain't a hippie. Furthest thing from it: pretty conservative here.

Second, I never said anything about swerving. If the alternatives are A) hit the dog and B) hit a tree and fuck yourself up, then you need to reluctantly choose A.

But this doesn't change the fact that you just SERIOUSLY HURT something that was LIVING before it met you. It doesn't change the fact that you may have killed it. You could have at least gone back to check on it or called and reported it so that maybe animal control could take care of it. Maybe saved it. At the very least, got it off the road so that other people don't have accidents because ofit.

But no. You leave it there to die, in the dark, probably to get run over by ANOTHER person because you didn't even tell the authorities that you hit something and it might be on the road.

I stand by my statement. Anyone who condones a hit and run on anything living is a horrible person.

If this was a person, you'd still think the same thing? Yeah, I thought so.

[bigred]

If this was a person, you'd still think the same thing? Yeah, I thought so.

Are we talking person as in my mom or a loved one...or prozach nation?

Case 1: If it was my mom, I'd definately call the authorities and do everything possible to save her.

Case 2: Prozach....shift the car into reverse and gun it, shift into drive, gun it...rinse and repeat.

About the hippy thing, I hope you can tell my loving sarcastic remarks from my hateful ones. That was a loving, joke one.

[a500lbgorilla]

If this was a person, you'd still think the same thing? Yeah, I thought so.

LOL, what a cheap move.

Duh, i care about a humans life more than an animal. Besides, the investigation if it was a human hit-n-run would probably be a little bit more intense.

Humans have been killing animals for millions of years, why stop now?

[Greedo017]

swerving out of the way was not an option - i saw it in time to see what color it was, and then things went "oh *thud* shit".

the only thing that concerns me about it is that it might have died on the road and become an obstacle for future drivers. should I have just 911'd it? i had no idea what an animal hospital or non-emergency popo number was, and no way to get one at 2am. i honestly didn't really think about calling someone at the time, just didn't cross my mind.

i am not concerned about it suffering. It died. there is no possibly. if it did live for any time at all, I doubt it would've survived until a cop made it there to shoot it.

[bigred]

I was ran over a raccoon. My car got rabies and I had to take it outback and shoot it. It was a sad time.

[jyms]

I was ran over a raccoon. My car got rabies and I had to take it outback and shoot it. It was a sad time.

definitly in the running to become the funniest poster on FTR. And sarcasm doesn't count.

[Lukie]

I'd probably stop to make sure there was no serious damage to my car and that it was still safe to drive.

[bigred]

I'd probably stop to make sure there was no serious damage to my car and that it was still safe to drive.

I hear canine tears of sadness can remove a coat of paint. Make sure your paint job is ok too.

[Lukie]

I think that's an urban legend, but I'd definately be pissed if that thing splattered blood all over my hood.

[bigred]

Yeah, roadkill blood stains are rude. Man's "best friend" should know better.

[Lukie]

It would be a great story to tell on a date, though.

[bigred]

It would be a great story to tell on a date, though.

Maybe with one of those boot-wearing lesbos?

[Greedo017]

i stopped after a minute or two and looked to make sure it wasn't like stuck or anything. there was no blood - it broke this plastic stuff on the very bottom of the front of my car, like the stuff that's recessed back below the front bumper. not a big deal to me, i drive a 91 chevy lumina, its the least of my problems.

In the UK a driver is legally obliged to report hitting a dog to the local authorities, but not a cat.

[Lukie]

It would be a great story to tell on a date, though.

Maybe with one of those boot-wearing lesbos?

What about one of those high-boot, short-skirt porn star types?

[bigred]

Nah, they love fluffy animals. Take Pam Anderson for example. She runs all those animal protection progams.

[Silly String]

Sorry about your luck Greedo. I have been there.
I hit a black dog just like this around Christmas about five years ago. I was doing 60 mph on a rural 2-lane US Hwy and bam. Just like you Greedo, I had about enough time to see the white stripe of fur down his chest when he turned toward the car. I guess I hit him about 45 mph after slamming on the brakes. I stopped and looked around, but I didn't see the dog. Unfortunately he did survive. Although I didn't realized that until I began to accelerate again and he started yelping. The dog was trapped under my 1992 Altima by the back axle. So what now?
No way in hell, I'm reaching under my car to free a wounded animal. I have a wife freaking out in my car, a dog trapped under the car, and since it was five years ago my cell doesn't even get roaming service in rural Kansas. I flag down the next passerby to use his cell, meanwhile my wife is walking away from the car in the pitch black to avoid hearing the yelping dog. I am trying to keep my wife in eyesight range and still stay around the car so the sheriff/animal control can find me. Oh yeah, it is also late December and about 10 degrees outside. I don't have a good winter coat, b/c I'm not planning on being outside anyway. My wife gets the leather jacket and I freeze my arse off in a heavy sweatshirt. The only other item I have that could kill the dog is a MagLite. I don't think I'm going to crawl under my car with a MagLite.
Turns out after 20 minutes the fire truck shows up to argue with the arriving cop about who is gonna get this dog unstuck from the car. This is when they inform me it is a pit bull, and neither is real keen on unhooking this dog. They decide the fire dept. will inflate an airbag to lift the car and the firemen will use poles to hold the dog down while the policeman unhooks the dog's leg. To make a long story short, cop shoots wounded dog, and I go about my business.
I don't know what I would have done in your situation, but I am not sure stopping is the right answer unless you have one trapped to your axel. I don't know what I would have done if the cops would have said, "Not my problem". I'm pretty sure it would have involved a high rate of speed and earmuffs though.

[Warpe]

In the UK a driver is legally obliged to report hitting a dog to the local authorities.

No beer goggle lays in your car after the pub closes then, I guess.

[Muxy]

fuck bees

[Greedo017]

yea, that situation sucks. i am glad that didn't happen to me.

if i had even slightly gotten on my brake before hitting him, i would've stopped and looked around. just judging from the sound of the impact I thought it was too hard for anything to have made it. i'd also admit, thinking it might be a german shephard did influence my decision to not stop.

[LimpinAintEZ]

late at night, middle of nowhere, yeah - best to keep driving i think - And i love dogs, but man you just have no idea what you might be dealing with...If the dog was really well loved, it would be sleeping in bed with you like mine (between my wife and the dog, i'm on the edge of the bed every damn night)

I hit a cat in the middle of the day on a residential street - Jumped right in front of me and i never had a chance...I looked behind me and it was squirming like it was paralyzed (i mean convulsing hard, not just a wound) - When I looked back I realized there was no way it would survive, so I backed up and ran back over it to kill it - I felt terrible but i couldn't just leave it there wriggling to death - Some lady came out screaming at me but i drove off - I had no inclination to explain what had happened...How do you explain that to a cat owner? sad day -

[midas06]

where's prozach gone?

[wufwugy]

i live in a wooded area. coming home one night i hit a rabbit. saw it squirming so i backed over it. drove home, got my shovel, walked bout a quarter mile back to the scene and buried him.

felt pretty damn bad partly because i like animals, and partly because i know that i drive too fast down that road.

[DaNutsInYoEye]

But this doesn't change the fact that you just SERIOUSLY HURT something that was LIVING before it met you. It doesn't change the fact that you may have killed it. You could have at least gone back to check on it or called and reported it so that maybe animal control could take care of it. Maybe saved it. At the very least, got it off the road so that other people don't have accidents because of it.

Gimme a fucking break. Do you say a prayer every time a bug hits your windshield? Is Mr. Bumble Bee or Ms. Mosquito any less alive than the fucked-up Fido we're talking about? Do you stop if you hit a bird? A squirrel? A rabbbit? Where do you draw the line?

I consider myself an animal lover. I have a dog that I care a lot about. If something would happen to her you can be assured that I would be extremely upset. We're talking about animals though. The situation sucks, but shit happens.

Hit at that speed the dog is fucked. Even if it had survived, who is going to pay the extensive vet bill assuming it was even possible to save it? Is it going to be the unsuspecting driver or the owner that didn't give enough of a shit in the first place to not have it's animal running around in the middle of the night? Be realistic.

In addition, when was the last time you heard of a traffic accident due to an animal carcass in the road? Anyone that is paying any attention to the road should be able to determine that there is an object in the road ahead of them and slow down or move to avoid it. It's not like he hit a deer either. Even if someone ran over it then that's exactly what would happen: they'd just run over it. Again, quit being a bleeding heart and be realistic.

The situation reminds me of the time when my whole family was in the car and a rabbit ran across the road. It was a small two lane highway and were doing at least 50 mph. My father swerves to miss it but hits it anyways. We all turn to look out the back window and see it rolling across the road and into a ditch. My mom asks him him if he's going to do anything. My dad replies, "What? I'm not gonna do CPR and I'm not gonna eat it. Hopefully it's already dead."

[ensign_lee]

i was driving down a country road, heavily traveled during the day but at 2am you realize you're in bfe, when a dog was running across the street, i of course nailed him. he was mostly black with some beige, german shephardy looking. i was going 65. i slowed down and thought for a minute, then just kept going. standard?

Ok: Let's rewrite this:

I was driving down some random street, heavily traveled during the day, but at 2am, you realize you're in bfe, when Greedo017 ran across the street. I of course nailed him. I was going around 65. I slowed down and thought for a little bit, then just kept going

I mean, was I gonna get out of my car at 2am on some random road to see if the guy I just hit (who was probably drunk off his ass and so is probably in bad shape now) is still alive?

Standard?

[Galapogos]

fuck bees

Somebody shit on the coats!

[mrhappy333]

i slowed down and thought for a minute, then just kept going. standard?

ROTFLMAO!!

[swiggidy]

i slowed down and thought for a minute, then just kept going. standard?

Fold pre-flop

[Warpe]

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[swiggidy]

fuck bees

Somebody shit on the coats!

What!?! [blends into crowd]

[Greedo017]

I was driving down some random street, heavily traveled during the day, but at 2am, you realize you're in bfe, when Greedo017 ran across the street. I of course nailed him. I was going around 65. I slowed down and thought for a little bit, then just kept going

I mean, was I gonna get out of my car at 2am on some random road to see if the guy I just hit (who was probably drunk off his ass and so is probably in bad shape now) is still alive?

Standard?

i completely do not see your point. (seriously). are you saying that a person is the same as a dog?

[Eric]

I saw a driver hit a dog when I was jogging some time ago. It was very sad, the owner came out and he was devestated.

This situation is a lot different. I'm not sure what I would have done if I was in your shoes and I hit a dog in the middle of nowhere. In the heat of the moment I think a lot of people would keep driving.

[flaptornriver]

I hit a cat in the middle of the day on a residential street - Jumped right in front of me and i never had a chance...I looked behind me and it was squirming like it was paralyzed (i mean convulsing hard, not just a wound) - When I looked back I realized there was no way it would survive, so I backed up and ran back over it to kill it - I felt terrible but i couldn't just leave it there wriggling to death - Some lady came out screaming at me but i drove off - I had no inclination to explain what had happened...How do you explain that to a cat owner? sad day -

This is fuggin hilarious. The image of a car backing up to finish off the cat, with a neighbor watching is great. Good stuff man.

[boost]

lee what the hell are you trying to say? Please read nutz' post. Where do you draw the line? Do you shed a tear everytime you squish and ant that snuck in your kitchen? Or do you just smile and let him go about his merry way, sure he might get into all your food with his freinds and make your house completely gross, but he sure will be one happy lil ant! wont he?

[ensign_lee]

I did read nutz post. Just forgot to reply. So here it is:

I draw the line where I hurt something that wasn't doing something to me.

That ant example? He was stealing from me. So I can A) ignore him B) squish him C) take him and put him outside, where he'll die anyway, because he won't be near his nest. So I'm squishing him, because if I ignore him, he'll continue to steal form me and if I put him outside, he may die a more horrible death.

I draw the line further at things that I can help. In the example above with the dog, it's kinda obvious that Greedo doesn't have a choice but to hit the dog. Otherwise, he's going to fuck himself up beyond belief. But he CAN check to see if it's ok and to help it if he can. And if he's too scared to do that, he can call 911 and say "Hey. I hit a dog going at 65 mph on x road. I'm not sure if it's allright, but could you send someone out here to check. And if it's a goner, could you make sure that it's not on the road anymore? Thank you."

[Bailey]

lay off lee.. obviously he didnt think of calling 911 to remove the dead dog off the road so no one gets hurt.. I know I wouldnt think of that at the time either.. when shit like that happens its kind of hard to think of logical things like that. Anyways.. Id probably leave it too.. just out of lack of knowing what I should do..

One time I was with my roommates dad driving to his farm to help him cut firewood and he hit a deer on the way there.. he got out and tried to see if it was okay.. deer tried to attack him so he got back in the car.. later that day he went back to check on the deer and it was dead on the side of the road... so he ate it.. the end

[WhiteFingers]

That ant example? He was stealing from me.

Yeah master criminals those ants

[a500lbgorilla]

i was driving down a country road, heavily traveled during the day but at 2am you realize you're in bfe, when a dog was running across the street, i of course nailed him. he was mostly black with some beige, german shephardy looking. i was going 65. i slowed down and thought for a minute, then just kept going. standard?

Ok: Let's rewrite this:

I was driving down some random street, heavily traveled during the day, but at 2am, you realize you're in bfe, when Greedo017 ran across the street. I of course nailed him. I was going around 65. I slowed down and thought for a little bit, then just kept going

I mean, was I gonna get out of my car at 2am on some random road to see if the guy I just hit (who was probably drunk off his ass and so is probably in bad shape now) is still alive?

Standard?

plz stop using "ok, instead of a dog ITS A PERSON" example. It's lame and doesn't make your point.

[bigred]

I run people over for breakfast.

Anyone ever seen that movie Baseketball? Remember that TV show about the roadkill?

[swiggidy]

You should have stopped and put up a sign

[Silly String]

That ant example? He was stealing from me. So I can A) ignore him B) squish him C) take him and put him outside, where he'll die anyway, because he won't be near his nest. So I'm squishing him, because if I ignore him, he'll continue to steal form me and if I put him outside, he may die a more horrible death.

While we are on an absurd examples kick:
Does this mean I can shoot a larcener in the head, but I'm not allowed to cause him a slow painful death by skinning him and cutting him in to small pieces starting with the extremities? Just curious?

[alias2211]

plz stop using "ok, instead of a dog ITS A PERSON" example. It's lame and doesn't make your point.

clearly we have to change this to ' ok, instead of a dog IT'S A RETARDED PERSON' in order for people to understand what lee is suggesting.

[bode]

if i hit a person i would be even more scared to get out and check. i mean, wtf is he doing walking around on a country road at 2 in the a.m.

i might stop however, if i noticed the person was retarded before i plowed them over.

[bigred]

Why are we hating on retarded people? They can't help it.

[bode]

im not hating, just saying i would be more likely to stop if i noticed they were retarded. if i didnt notice they were retarded, same rules apply to reg. people.

[EricE]

This thread is awesome.

I loved the story about the dog caught on the axel.

Lee:
Being morally righteous about someone not stopping to see if a most-assuredly-dead-or-dieing dog is ok is totally laughable. But keep it up because it’s good material.

[ItDepends]

Taking bets that Lee is a moral vegan. Anyone?

Yes -1290
No +200

[ensign_lee]

Lemme know when you stop taking bets. I'll let you know the answer.

By the by, what's the max b et on that?

[mrhappy333]

I hit a cat in the middle of the day on a residential street - Jumped right in front of me and i never had a chance...I looked behind me and it was squirming like it was paralyzed (i mean convulsing hard, not just a wound) - When I looked back I realized there was no way it would survive, so I backed up and ran back over it to kill it - I felt terrible but i couldn't just leave it there wriggling to death - Some lady came out screaming at me but i drove off - I had no inclination to explain what had happened...How do you explain that to a cat owner? sad day -

This is fuggin hilarious. The image of a car backing up to finish off the cat, with a neighbor watching is great. Good stuff man.

I was thinking the same thing. I totally understand the situation. It really sucks for the cat , but just imagine the lady watching...It's just too funny....

[dsmrolla06]

I hit a cat in the middle of the day on a residential street - Jumped right in front of me and i never had a chance...I looked behind me and it was squirming like it was paralyzed (i mean convulsing hard, not just a wound) - When I looked back I realized there was no way it would survive, so I backed up and ran back over it to kill it - I felt terrible but i couldn't just leave it there wriggling to death - Some lady came out screaming at me but i drove off - I had no inclination to explain what had happened...How do you explain that to a cat owner? sad day -

This is fuggin hilarious. The image of a car backing up to finish off the cat, with a neighbor watching is great. Good stuff man.

I was thinking the same thing. I totally understand the situation. It really sucks for the cat , but just imagine the lady watching...It's just too funny....

HAHA i couldnt stop laughing when i read that. Thats the funniest thing ive read in awhile.

[ItDepends]

Lemme know when you stop taking bets. I'll let you know the answer.

By the by, what's the max b et on that?

I had over $100,000 in wagers on YES so I had to remove the line. No answer required.

[givememyleg]

I think it is a sad thing when stuff like this happens... it is most likely someone's pet that they love. But I agree that human>animal... comparing them here won't work. If someone hit a human they are going to get out and see if they're ok. Anyway I dunno what I would have done in this situation... I might stop and see what happened, but I don't think I would have found the situation funny. Maybe that makes me weak/tight but whatever.

[Lukie]

we need pictures so we can get a good visual of what we're dealing with.

[ensign_lee]

Lemme know when you stop taking bets. I'll let you know the answer.

By the by, what's the max b et on that?

I had over $100,000 in wagers on YES so I had to remove the line. No answer required.

Oh, ok. Well, if betting's closed, then you just won $100,000. Congratulations. $1000 NL here you come.

Would you like me to post a picture of me eating a steak? Mmm...beef. Come on now. I'm from Texas. Of course I eat meat. Muhahaha. Stupid squares, betting on yes. Haha.

[bode]

so i just squashed an ant that was crawling on my floor becaues it was threatening my terratory. is this an ok move, or should i have let it go ouside?

[Bailey]

I use ants for masterbation...
standard?

discuss

[Galapogos]

I use aunts for masterbation...
standard?

discuss

fyp

You sick puppy you...

[Bailey]

Could be worse... could be uncles.. am I rite?

[grnydrowave2]

Could be worse... could be uncles.. am I rite?

u r rite.

By the way, if I hit a dog with my car, I'd check to see if it was still alive so I could put it out of it's misery. Call me a hippy if you must, but I don't like to see any creature suffer.

[boost]

ok so fuck the ants that are stealing from you.. how about if you step on a bug, or back to the bug hitting the windshield example.

Just stop arguing your weak point already. Its has no merit. Even if he calls it in, the chances taht they get there in time to help the thing are very slim, and the chances that they find it at all are probably nearly as slim seeing as its just some lil country road. I can understand how you could at first make that point, but after its been talked about for a bit it becomes quite clear that you are just wrong, why cant you just admit it?

[Greedo017]

its not as though I don't sympathize with the dog, i wouldn't want to see it suffer either. i think i would've felt silly calling 911 also. if the circumstances were at all different, I might've stopped, but I just think given everything being the way it was, best move was to keep going. also, i was driving back to school because i had a test at 9am the next day and was staying up all night. I didn't exactly have tons of time to piss away in a situation where I think i'd have just continued going anyway even if i had all the time in the world.

and itdepends I demand money from that bet i know you got 247k don't hold out on me.

[flomo]

i carry, in my glove box, a beretta 92fs 9mm for putting holes in wounded animals hit by my car(and sometimes unwounded animals or street signs). i don't find a need to put the car in reverse to finish the job. and there are no witnesses.
God bless the USA.

[bigred]

Lemme know when you stop taking bets. I'll let you know the answer.

By the by, what's the max b et on that?

I had over $100,000 in wagers on YES so I had to remove the line. No answer required.

Oh, ok. Well, if betting's closed, then you just won $100,000. Congratulations. $1000 NL here you come.

Would you like me to post a picture of me eating a steak? Mmm...beef. Come on now. I'm from Texas. Of course I eat meat. Muhahaha. Stupid squares, betting on yes. Haha.

Now that we're on the subject of Ensign Lee there's something I've been wondering for at least a year now. Who is Cameron and why are you friends with a five year old?

[Greedo017]

if i had a gun i would've stopped. this gives me a whole new reason to get a get. i like guns.

[bigred]

Greedo, bring back the weird Green Thingy.

Wait, say you were to run over one of those weird Green thingys. Would you stop for that?

[Irisheyes]

I was ran over a raccoon. My car got rabies and I had to take it outback and shoot it. It was a sad time.

definitly in the running to become the funniest poster on FTR. And sarcasm doesn't count.

Why'd you have to go and say a thing like this? He won't shut up now!

[Irisheyes]

Lemme know when you stop taking bets. I'll let you know the answer.

By the by, what's the max b et on that?

I had over $100,000 in wagers on YES so I had to remove the line. No answer required.

Oh, ok. Well, if betting's closed, then you just won $100,000. Congratulations. $1000 NL here you come.

Would you like me to post a picture of me eating a steak? Mmm...beef. Come on now. I'm from Texas. Of course I eat meat. Muhahaha. Stupid squares, betting on yes. Haha.

Now that we're on the subject of Ensign Lee there's something I've been wondering for at least a year now. Who is Cameron and why are you friends with a five year old?

Though this is an excellent point.