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08-11-2009, 12:59 PM
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I am asking FTR to settle something that I have been torn on forever. Which are worse: Christians or Vegetarians?
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You think god is in control here, haha? I am in control. I’ve been in control since the ’50s in case you haven’t noticed, haha. You 3 faggots are going on stage [Jonas Brothers], and you 3 faggots [South Park guys] aren’t gonna’ stop me. Nobody is ruining this event, haha! I have worked too long and too hard to have anybody fuck this up. [Kenny turns up the mic volume, so everyone can hear what Mouse is saying] Where would you be without me Jonas Brothers, haha? Your music sucks and you know it, haha! It’s because you make little girls ginies tickle, and when little girls ginies tickle, I make money, haha. And that’s because little girls are fucking stupid, haha. And the purity rings make it ok to do whatever I want, haha. Even the Christians are too fucking stupid to figure out I’m selling sex to their daughters. I’ve made billions off of Christian ignorance for decades now, haha. And do you know why? Because Christians are retarded, haha! They believe in a talking dead guy, haha!
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8n...ian_shortfilms
Argument against Vegetarians:
They don't eat meat.
Soooo which are worse?
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Christians make me chuckle
Vegetarians do not
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Vegetarians are only annoying when talking about food. Christians are constantly annoying. Ez call.
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This was really just an excuse to post that video, but it's old so I couldn't risk getting flamed.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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I've eaten both. I've enjoyed both. I guess it depends on what flavor you like. 
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food > god
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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i voted vegetarians but meant rilla
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there are worse people in life than those who praise jeebus and those who only eat grass.
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I'm borderline militant atheist but vegetarians tend to stick their shit in my face more often, i vote vegetarians.
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christians Obv.
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The vegetarians that spend no time educating themselves about eating veggy are the more annoying vegetarians by far. But christians are even too stupid to understand even when they do educate themselves in the face of everything we have seen come out of the bible. How can you be a christian and not read the bible, and how can you be a christian after you have?
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Can't it be both?
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Can't it be both?
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CAN there be a both? a veggy christian???? no, something that horrible cant possibly exist.
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I don't think a Vegetarian has ever knocked on my door and tried to talk bullshit at me but the same cunt christians (or whatever variant) keep knocking my door.
The bastards even did it yesterday and I've had gastroenteritis for 3 days.
Probably because I'm a veggie.
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How can you be a christian and not read the bible, and how can you be a christian after you have?
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Fucking A
As for teh OP, I'm gonna try to not go on a long post here, so I'll just say that the types of things I'm reminded of when confronted with this question is that Christianity is responsible for tremendous evil, while vegetarianism is not. Having said that, if it wasn't for Christianity, it is very likely that we would all be Muslims and science and democracy would have never taken root. So for all the bad that comes from Christianity, I can acknowledge that without a popular and militant superstition to make war with Islam during the first couple millenia, we'd all be fucked
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Having said that, if it wasn't for Christianity, it is very likely that we would all be Muslims and science and democracy would have never taken root.
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Yeah you just lost like all credibility period.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Having said that, if it wasn't for Christianity, it is very likely that we would all be Muslims and science and democracy would have never taken root.
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Yeah you just lost like all credibility period. |
It's called history
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Can't it be both?
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Yeah. It boils down to the individual, and I'm not sure that the militant fundamentalist gene or whatever the fuck produces that in yer face face, holier than thou cockwad is that selective about its cause tbh...
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To back up my thoughts.
I 've seen way too many furry female christians. At least the vegies shaved.
Catholics don't recognize jews.
Jews don't recognize jeebus.
Baptists don't recognize each other in the strp club.
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I think all people are fucked in the head in their own little ways.
They can do what the fuck they want, but leave me the fuck out of it.
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I'm scared of IRC, everytime I go in there Chelle tells me she's going to fuck my dad in the ass.
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Having said that, if it wasn't for Christianity, it is very likely that we would all be Muslims and science and democracy would have never taken root. So for all the bad that comes from Christianity, I can acknowledge that without a popular and militant superstition to make war with Islam during the first couple millenia, we'd all be fucked
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You do realise that pretty much all of science in the middle ages came from Islamic countries...
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Although Europe had been exposed to Islamic culture for centuries through contacts in Iberian Peninsula and Sicily, much knowledge in areas such as science, medicine, and architecture was transferred from the Islamic to the western world during the crusade era.
Along with trade, new scientific discoveries and inventions made their way east or west. Arab advances (including the development of algebra, optics, and refinement of engineering) made their way west and sped the course of advancement in European universities that led to the Renaissance in later centuries
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Now I realise that Wikipedia isn't exactly a bastion of truth everytime, but really, come on, how could you not know this?
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ya, wuf Im pretty surprised to hear that coming from you. Actually we could go so far as to assume the opposite of what you said. Without christianity, islam would likely not have developed along such a militant path. Extremism does not come about without and adversary to provoke its development.
And actually Im thinking that I remember learning that man muslim rulers of antiquity were actually quite tolerant of people having their own beliefs. Far more tolerant than european christians Im sure..
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I think all people are fucked in the head in their own little ways.
They can do what the fuck they want, but leave me the fuck out of it.
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This needs more love.
"There is no such thing in life as normal".
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You do realise that pretty much all of science in the middle ages came from Islamic countries...
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Yes, some did. I'm not saying one thing or the other would have happened, that's just stupid. I'm referring to two rather backed up hypotheses: 1) that conflict between nations/peoples is a primary driver in technological development, and 2) militant religions are primary drivers in conflict.
Without competing religions it is likely that the entire planet would be one religion, and this would create great strain on technological development, especially if it went the way of fundie Islam. This could have gone many ways though, and there are a TON of other factors that could have sent things in all kinds of different directions.
My comment is a kind of side remark about a plausible historical hypothesis, that's all. This is the thing about hypotheses attempting to analyze history: they're very sketchy, and there's virtually zero consensus among experts except over hard facts.
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veggies are alright. They don't like to eat animals. up to them.
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Christians are more annoying by far.
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Both of them are pretty insufferable when they attempt to force their beliefs, or preach to people who don't want to hear about it. Otherwise I have no problem with either. Atheists are equally as annoying if they're the type who love to brag about how not believing in God makes them so much god damn smarter than those idiots who do.
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ya, wuf Im pretty surprised to hear that coming from you. Actually we could go so far as to assume the opposite of what you said. Without christianity, islam would likely not have developed along such a militant path. Extremism does not come about without and adversary to provoke its development.
And actually Im thinking that I remember learning that man muslim rulers of antiquity were actually quite tolerant of people having their own beliefs. Far more tolerant than european christians Im sure..
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imo much of this is wrong....when Islam caught fire through Arabia it spread thru conquest across north africa and the other middle eastern countries. I have read a good deal on the spread of islam at the beginning and christians did not pose any adversarial affect. The fact is, the christians got steamrolled until the spanish moors tried to invade France and were finally held in check to keep much of Europe in christian hands.
Yes some islamic rulers were tollerant in especially Palestine and I agree, that rolls reversed, christian wouldn't have been nearly as tollerant....
However much of that changed with the conversion and subsequent conquest of Palestine and present day Turkey by the Turks.....they were not so kind.....it wasn't until the first crusade (over 300 years after the start of islam) that Christians really started to return fire.
A good book to read on the subject is called "The Dream and the Tomb" I believe the author is Robert Payne.
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Atheists are equally as annoying if they're the type who love to brag about how not believing in God makes them so much god damn smarter than those idiots who do.
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Yes, this. Extremism of any type, especially that which is freely announced without provocation, is all kinds of annoying.
I feel extreme about that point.
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All I know is that I'm an atheist and not believing in god makes me so much god damn smarter than those idiot who do.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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My comment is a kind of side remark about a plausible historical hypothesis, that's all. This is the thing about hypotheses attempting to analyze history: they're very sketchy, and there's virtually zero consensus among experts except over hard facts.
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Rather than basing our opinion on a hypothesis, we can observe the clearly detailed effects of the church on science:
http://books.google.com/books?id=bb5...gbs_navlinks_s
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All I know is that I'm an atheist and not believing in god makes me so much god damn smarter than those idiot who do.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Both of them are pretty insufferable when they attempt to force their beliefs, or preach to people who don't want to hear about it. Otherwise I have no problem with either. Atheists are equally as annoying if they're the type who love to brag about how not believing in God makes them so much god damn smarter than those idiots who do.
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Yay for reasonable people 
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Atheists are equally as annoying
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Both of them are pretty insufferable when they attempt to force their beliefs, or preach to people who don't want to hear about it. Otherwise I have no problem with either. Atheists are equally as annoying if they're the type who love to brag about how not believing in God makes them so much god damn smarter than those idiots who do.
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You guys are just igorannnnn
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Vegeta>Jesus
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My comment is a kind of side remark about a plausible historical hypothesis, that's all. This is the thing about hypotheses attempting to analyze history: they're very sketchy, and there's virtually zero consensus among experts except over hard facts.
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Rather than basing our opinion on a hypothesis, we can observe the clearly detailed effects of the church on science:
http://books.google.com/books?id=bb5...gbs_navlinks_s |
Well, unless the book is full of nothing but irrefutable facts easily verified, then it will involve hypotheses or theories. But I'm not even addressing how the Church affected science. It was bad, really bad, and it still is.
What I'm referring to is a much more basic look at how conflict drives tech, and that without several religions battling each other, it is likely that society would be even more authoritarian than the Church has managed.
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you can try... like a fool! My vegetarian diet has left me with lighting-fast reflexes, sucka!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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lol how are jehova's witnesses not on that poll
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lol how are jehova's witnesses not on that poll
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cause they're like witnesses and witnesses are like proof and stuff
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lol how are jehova's witnesses not on that poll
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Unrelated to the thread but my parents were both baptized as Jehovah's Witnesses.....
.....and the really sad part is I'm not making this shit up.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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What I'm referring to is a much more basic look at how conflict drives tech, and that without several religions battling each other, it is likely that society would be even more authoritarian than the Church has managed.
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I don't think it's anywhere near that clean cut. Conflict undeniably drives technology, but mainly only regarding stuff that can be used to blow shit up. Sometimes what they come up with turns out to be otherwise useful also, but those cases are more accidental than predetermined. Also, while possibly the largest, religion is not the only contributor to conflict. Personally I ('d like to) think humanity would be much better off without religions.
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So if conflict drives technology, why was Africa so slow in developing technology? I watch fox news, I know how dangerous THEY are...
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So if conflict drives technology, why was Africa so slow in developing technology? I watch fox news, I know how dangerous THEY are...
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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So if conflict drives technology, why was Africa so slow in developing technology? I watch fox news, I know how dangerous THEY are...
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I'd say scarcity of basic necessities such as food (farmland) and clean water. Agriculture is what kicked early european civilizations into high gear allowing for the use of resources for other things besides bare survival, such as culture and science. Obv throwing spears at the neighboring tribe won't solve the human genome, but it might very well lead to more advanced tools for harvesting or craftsmanship. Conflict doesn't create resources, it merely reallocates them, causing things like nuclear power and GPS to pop up as a side product.
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