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04-22-2008, 03:30 PM
Post subject: Chiefs closing in on deal to ship only pro bowler to Vikes
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Full House
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The Kansas City Chiefs seems to be getting all sorts of high on draft week euphoria. I don't know if "King" Carl celebrated too much on 4:20 or what. but he is trying to ship the only piece of the KC roster that has any trade value out of town for more draft picks. I wonder if they have ever heard of the Rookie Cap.
It is so easy to replace 15.5 sacks on defense these days, so why not?
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Great offseason for the vikes. They dump that bum Williamson and pick up Berrian and soon to be Allen. I wonder if the Chiefs would ship Gonzales to the vikes for a 4th and 5th round pick?
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Pro Bowler.
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Pro bowler?
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kingnat
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Chiefs will never resign him... this gets pretty near to his maximum possible value.. and if he fucks up one more time.. he's suspended for a year. I'd say happy trails as well...
Vikes now offering 2008 1st and 3rd, and 2009 2nd... cya Jared.
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Lukie
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i can see why a chiefs fan would be frustrated, but i think allen hates KC already and you might as well get some value.
also, all that aside, what does the rookie pool have to do with anything? it's not a preset amount; it is adjusted for all of a team's draft picks.
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Hawk
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Seriously though, the guy is not going to sign long term with KC, and doesn't he already have two DUI's? Even if keeping him wasn't an issue, it's only a matter of time before he gets in trouble again and gets suspended.
If they can get a couple guys who can be solid contributors in exchange for getting rid of a headache (though obviously one with lots of talent), and do it before his career goes into a down spin, I think thats the best move for them.
and on another note...FUCK the vikes and FUCK steve hutchinson!
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Ragnar4
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Waitaminnit.
Aren't Larry Johnson, and Tony G. Both prow bowlers?
As for getting Jared Allen out of KC, Getting rid of a guy for a couple of DUI's makes no sense. That having been said, he terrorized Jay Cutler last year, so GO GO GO, Get to minnesota you drunk!
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kingnat
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Originally Posted by Lukie
also, all that aside, what does the rookie pool have to do with anything? it's not a preset amount; it is adjusted for all of a team's draft picks.
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this is true... each teams rookie pool is announced after the draft based on all the picks a team made.
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Silly String
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Good to know about the rookie cap. I did not know that.
As for pro bowlers, Larry & Tony G. have been in the past but not last year.
As for Jared, the Chiefs may get fair value for him(1st/3rd-08 & 2nd in 09), but I still don't see them replacing a DE of that caliber with any of those picks. I guess we have so many holes as a team, so whatev's. Now that Jake Long signed my dream of a stud left tackle is dead.
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kingnat
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Chiefs agree to send Allen to Vikings
The Chiefs have agreed to trade Pro Bowl DE Jared Allen to the Vikings, reports NFL Network's Adam Schefter.
www.nfl.com
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Ragnar4
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el em ay oh!
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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kingnat
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Jared Allen traded for the Vikings' 1st and 2 3rd-round picks. Allen get's $31,000,069 in guaranteed money... no word if there are stipulations about his getting suspended again.. but I would have to imagine it's in there somewhere.
I think the Chiefs are now in a position of tremendous leverage depending on who falls to them... if I were a Chiefs fan I'd advocate for a trade down.. to the low teens. You still likely get an impact LT.. and many more picks. This draft is very deep for picks in the first 3 rounds are phenomenal.
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Silly String
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Yep we need a trading partner though, like say New Orleans. Anybody else want a big run stopper like Sedrick Ellis or a stud
QB like Ryan? Baltimore?
As is the 17th pick is huge. Now we can take a QB or DE with the 5th and wait on the OT till later. At #5 an OT not named Jake Long is a reach with all of the holes in our roster. We'll see who of the top 6 guys in this draft falls and then go from there. Here's what I'd like to see, but I've prob. been drinking too much to be this optimistic:
Fins - Jake Long
Rams - Chris Long
Falcons - Matt Ryan
Raiders - McFadden
Chiefs - Glenn Dorsey
Then at #17 we can take a good CB or OT that falls to us.
At least we don't have to pay Jared 74 million. Wow.
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kingnat
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That would be pretty great... though I REALLY REALLY want Dorsey for the Rams.
I also think someone will bust a nut and trade up for Dorsey... the guy is the best talent in the draft, imo.
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