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Hey fellow FTR community. I am not sure who all saw the post I made on July 4, 2006 "Have to withdraw my bankroll......" But I basically explained that my business was just getting started and we (me and 2 friends) plan on selling an invention which aims at gamers and ergonomics. Well, it's been a long time coming, has gone through many different versions, had 5 different prototypes, invested a lot of time (and some money), but everything is starting to launch! We just started taking sales on Monday 1/7/07, and it's been going good so far.
Well what is it? We have 2 products, something called the Wrizz and a mousepad designed for gamers called the Wrizz Pad. There are a lot of pictures on our website (http://www.wrizz.com) but here is one that basically shows what it looks like:

If you're interested in learning more on what it does and how it can help you, the design page on the website shows a lot of detail.
The greatest thing about this adventure is the friendship between me and my business partners. When we first got started we didn't know what the word "polyurethane " meant, nor did we know anything about making molds and pouring liquid plastics/foams. We have learned and experience so much and even if this is never takes off nothing can replace that. I strongly urge you to go and try something and not be afraid of the consequences. Once everything starts flowing, it feels great! We still have a long way to go but we just reached a new milestone.
Basically these things are made in a spare room in my house. We have a basic "sweat shop" which contains so many chemicals and is definetly not up to OSHA standards. Here are some random pics from the sweat shop:






Here are the people involved making the product, involved in the business Macardam LLP:
givememyleg:

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matt ricketts:

If anyone is interested in giving any feedback at all or has any ideas to where we can improve ANYTHING, I greatly appreciate it. I know this really doesn't have anything to do with poker persay, but I have grown a lot since joining FTR and a lot of that has to do with the great people here. Thank you all and I'm glad to be a part of this community!
[Oh mods - I talked to X prior to posting this and he said it was fine.]
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01-12-2007, 05:56 AM
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It looks great, best of luck.
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Great stuff leg. I imagine a lot of FTR's have business ideas or small businesses on the side.
Seeing someone actually doing it will be a shot in the arm for everyone.
The website looks great too. Simple yet stylish, clean and easy to use (I'm a web designer/developer).
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Is it wrong that I kept expecting to see a pic of some hostage being tortured in that room?
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Is it wrong that I kept expecting to see a pic of some hostage being tortured in that room?
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i think leg is the victim!!! looks like he hasnt eaten anything in 3 years.
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will it work for my balla mouse?
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Good luck with it! I really admire people who take a shot at their own business, good on ya.
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looks awesome leg. I might have to pick one of these up and try it out.
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any type of shipping policy for us europeans?? i almost feel obliged to buy one.
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Wow, good idea leg. This actually looks like a product I would use. I think I'll be ordering one in the near future.
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You sure that's not a a meth lab?
Good luck with the business...something I've always talked about doing but never had the balls.
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any type of shipping policy for us europeans?? i almost feel obliged to buy one.
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it looks a lot like my meth lab
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Wow, that thing is cool. Best of Luck!!
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Looks awesome leg. Best of luck.
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Does your product intefere with mouse movement at all?
I think the marbled look is a good idea because dirt/grime that accumulates will be less noticeable. Personally I don't find the look all that attractive though. Do you have the materials to make them in solid colors? I can't tell for sure from the pics, but it looks like the one in your right hand is black and the one on the desk in the last pic is red? I think think solid black would be pretty hot and would buy one.
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i looked on the order page on the website and you can get them in solid colors. black would be pretty sexy.
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Thanks for the kind words everyone!
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will it work for my balla mouse?
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To be honest I am not sure because we didn't test that one. I've never even seen that mouse before, might have to pick it up. We've tried somewhere arond 40 different ones in different sizes and they all seemed to fit. I have an MX1000 and it works.
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Well we don't have a set rate right now for you crazy people who live across a body of water. However, if you ever do feel obliged just order one and put in the comment who you are and all will be well!
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Does your product intefere with mouse movement at all?
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It actually makes the mouse movement smoother. It attaches to the mouse from your grip and has a plastic bottom with mouse feet that work very well with our mousing surface.
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I think the marbled look is a good idea because dirt/grime that accumulates will be less noticeable. Personally I don't find the look all that attractive though. Do you have the materials to make them in solid colors? I can't tell for sure from the pics, but it looks like the one in your right hand is black and the one on the desk in the last pic is red? I think think solid black would be pretty hot and would buy one.
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Yeah we've really got to get some new pics on there showing solid colors as well. You can get any of the colors either solid or marbled in anyway. And yes, black on black is pretty sexy.
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Here is a quick pic of a black/black:
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Is it wrong that I kept expecting to see a pic of some hostage being tortured in that room?
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i think leg is the victim!!! looks like he hasnt eaten anything in 3 years.
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Hey I just noticed this! We can't all be 7'5"!
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cool, glglgl
I have a similar one with the carpal tunnel hump or whatever combined with the mouse pad, I like it. I don't play any games on the PC so I'm good with my current level of mouse accruacy but I'll buy one next big cash I get just for the fun of it, writing myself a note.
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Here is what the bottom looks like off of one I have to send out today:

The part where your hand lays is made out of comfortable foam. The foam is attached to a hard plastic base giving it the shape. The feet that are built in to the plastic base are very smooth and glide on almost any surface. Also, if you guys have never tried a "higher tech" mouse pad other than the foam ones you get for $2, you would be suprised how much better this one is. The mouse pad is basically aimed at gamers who want a slick slick surface for their mousing movements, but it works great with the Wrizz.
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cool, glglgl
I have a similar one with the carpal tunnel hump or whatever combined with the mouse pad, I like it. I don't play any games on the PC so I'm good with my current level of mouse accruacy but I'll buy one next big cash I get just for the fun of it, writing myself a note.
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Ty ty ty. Yeah this is kind of where the idea came from aiming at ergonomics. People have told us they like the hump on a foam pad, but they don't like that it doesn't move. Your hand is basically stationary in one spot, so we wanted to design something that moved with your hand without actually having to attach to the mouse.
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That sweat shop could use some ventilation. You'd better hope OSHA doesn't read this.
Looks great, leg. Good luck!
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good luck
do you have something for single hand browsing and whacking
i hate putting my drink down
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Dude that's a great idea. If it will fit my MX518 I'm gonna get one. But you don't list pokersite transfers or NETeller as payment option? 
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Doh! Thanks. The writing does need some revamping and I think we are going to trim it down... just too much text. I don't see why it wouldn't fit your mx518, it's actually designed around the mx series. The foam flaps adjust to pretty much any mouse.
Maybe I'll put my pokerstars account for an option for all the poker players.
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Hmm, I think you're on to something....
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Could be your next line, code-named the JIZZ.
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gl sir. If you ever get international shipping set up (and payments through neteller/poker sites) I'll buy one
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Dude that's a great idea. If it will fit my MX518 I'm gonna get one. But you don't list pokersite transfers or NETeller as payment option?
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Gaming (Half-Life, Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, World of Warcraft, Call of Duty, Quake, THE LIST GOES ON AN ON!)
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Doh! Thanks. The writing does need some revamping and I think we are going to trim it down... just too much text. I don't see why it wouldn't fit your mx518, it's actually designed around the mx series. The foam flaps adjust to pretty much any mouse.
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Is it wrong that I kept expecting to see a pic of some hostage being tortured in that room?
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i think leg is the victim!!! looks like he hasnt eaten anything in 3 years.
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Hey I just noticed this! We can't all be 7'5"!
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lol i dont know if your product would fit my HANDS tho, they are like a foot long.
i dont PC game so much that id actually need it but i do need a mat (i dont have one). i may tho have to upgrade from my cheap skate mouse tho
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gl sir. If you ever get international shipping set up (and payments through neteller/poker sites) I'll buy one
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Yeah we're working on getting our own shopping cart system/payment options. I don't really like Paypal either (nor do I like their 2.9% + $.30 fees) but it was the quickest and easiest way to get setup off the bat. You can still pay with a credit/debit card through Paypal without even having to setup an account.
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BTW legs, im 6 ft 7 in tall monster
I also fart thunder and spit fire.
if anyone needs me for public appearances please call me at 1800-lefreak
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Leg, do you have yourself an Ebay store yet? It might help get you some more business
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Leg, do you have yourself an Ebay store yet? It might help get you some more business
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We actually thought of this like 2 months ago but I forgot. This is a great idea and I think I'm gonna set this up in the next couple days. Thanks for the idea!
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No I have not, but since you mentioned it I looked into it just now. Man this looks great! Plus, many people HATE Paypal (I've already had a few e-mails from people asking if they can pay anyway other than Paypal) and most people like Google. On top of that, "From November 8, 2006 through December 31, 2007, Google Checkout merchants can process their Google Checkout sales for free," is pretty appealing. We're paying 3% + $.30 on every damn order which adds up fast. Plus they have a built in program called AdWords for advertising...
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Does the Wrizz help to combat the RSI you get from overusing a mouse? Currently suffering from this and still need my mouse all the time.
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That's strange. I was expecting semtex, wires, etc.
Nice one givememyleg, that business should do well. And your business partners look like ballas!
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If I were to go into business I would certainly pick chin-fuzzed, indoor-beanie-wearing college boys as my ideal partners
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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Originally Posted by gingerwizard
Does the Wrizz help to combat the RSI you get from overusing a mouse? Currently suffering from this and still need my mouse all the time.
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We haven't submitted the Wrizz to an ergonomic expert/agency yet for review. However, (I know my opinion may be biased) everyone we have given them to has said their wrist feels much more comfortable. So technically I do not have a positive answer about combating RSI or carpal tunnel. But truthfully, I will never use the mouse agian without it.
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Originally Posted by biondino
If I were to go into business I would certainly pick chin-fuzzed, indoor-beanie-wearing college boys as my ideal partners 
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Markelby is so funnnnnnnnnnny.
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