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Old 01-03-2009, 02:02 AM     Post subject: The best movies you've never seen. #1 (permalink)  
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 I just saw that there already is a "funny movies" thread, but what the hell. I thought of it before I saw it I swearz!

Sooo... I need some movie recommendations.

I'll start.

Dellamorte Dellamore
Very little known zombi film, even among fans of the genre. If you are into zombi movies by any degree, you will at least be entertained.
- A young gravedigger has to defend the holy ground from nightly invasions of the walking dead. The plot develops from there.



Bad Boy Bubby
If you want to see a Rolf De Heer film, you usually have to look for film festivals, and for a good reason. If you can sit through Dead Poet Society or Good Will Hunting without regurgitating - you will not like this movie. *edit* - found some pieces of that on youtube too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUWe3...eature=related

Burden of Dreams
I was going to recommend Werner Herzog documentary, then I thought meh... too mainstream.
This is a documentary about a Herzog film... whoa you find everything on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze9-A...eature=related
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:08 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I did a search for that, but all I could come up with is a french 6 minute short that is very unlikely to have Clair Danes in it.


Simple Men
Slow movie. I think there is but one sequence where the camera actually moves during a shot. Anyway... Hal Hartley is very talented in staging dialogue, and the cast does a very good job throughout the movie. Jim Jarmush and Godard fans will probably like.


The Trial
Ok... here we have someone who is regarded as one of the greatest directors of all time, directing a monster of literature with Anthony Perkins and Romy Schneider in the main cast. Unfortunately the director is Orson Welles who throughout his lifetime was avoided by audiences like the plague. I don't know if he ever landed a major hit that didn't take more than a decade to catch on with audiences and critices.
I didn't want to include any well known names in this thread. But I think that this one has probably had as little exposure as the others I've listed so far.

You guiz noes dat I post these to get some input here...
Recommend some movies you bitches!
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I did a search for that, but all I could come up with is a french 6 minute short that is very unlikely to have Clair Danes in it.
No one's ever seen it
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:16 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 you seem to have pretty decent understanding of quality in movies being that all those are 7 or above. it's hard to find individuals who evaluate movies with at least some degree of objectivity.

here's a few 8 or above that most have not seen. first two are american, last three are foreign, only last one is new. all among the best

the man who would be king http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073341/ michael caine motherfucker. if you don't like him you will now. connery and caine in an adventure/western. how this got such little attention i will never know

rope http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040746/ jimmy stewart and hitchcock at their best. directed in play format, highly intriguing plot, and stewarts monologue in the end chills the skin

seppuku/harakiri http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056058/ samurai ritual suicide. absofuckinglutely awesome story, and tatsuya nakadai doing his best to tie toshiro mifune as best japanese actors of all time

dersu uzala http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071411/ almost no movies compare. dersu is kinda like jeremiah johnson, but not really. some of the best scenery in movies, and has an amazing part which involves the two main characters frantically saving themselves from imminent death

spring summer fall winter and spring http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374546/ visually compelling, iirc almost zero speaking. artistic, profound, 'buddhist' influenced film examining the human condition

i have many more, and can hit my boy up for an almost unlimited supply of films/docs that own the fuck out of what most people consider good.
 
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I did a search for that, but all I could come up with is a french 6 minute short that is very unlikely to have Clair Danes in it.
No one's ever seen it
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I did a search for that, but all I could come up with is a french 6 minute short that is very unlikely to have Clair Danes in it.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:42 PM #8 (permalink)  
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you seem to have pretty decent understanding of quality in movies being that all those are 7 or above.
lolwat?
But thanks for the suggestions! I'll check those out.
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dunno how underground it is but hey im in Ireland, loved ''Boiler Room''
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you seem to have pretty decent understanding of quality in movies being that all those are 7 or above. it's hard to find individuals who evaluate movies with at least some degree of objectivity.
You mean everybody seems to disagree with you?
 
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Old 01-04-2009, 06:36 PM #14 (permalink)  
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dunno how underground it is but hey im in Ireland, loved ''Boiler Room''
yeah, this is a great movie.

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Old 01-04-2009, 09:40 PM #15 (permalink)  
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you seem to have pretty decent understanding of quality in movies being that all those are 7 or above. it's hard to find individuals who evaluate movies with at least some degree of objectivity.
You mean everybody seems to disagree with you?
go to imdb and punch in a bunch of terrible movies and you'll get an average of low ratings for almost all, then punch in a bunch of fantastic movies and you'll get an average of high ratings for almost all.

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Old 01-08-2009, 06:12 PM #16 (permalink)  
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 I never pay attention to the ratings. Some of my all time favourite movies are around 5/10, and then some of the worst crap I've ever seen gets praised by the critics.
I mean Donny Darko gets a higher rating than Lost Highway. And Karate Kid outranks Tideland... If I took that seriously I'd loose my hope in mankind.

Anyway. I'm a movie addict, not a cineast... I was going to make a PS in my original post that the first one to mention Fargo gets troutslapped... it got like a hundred oskar nominations, but well... yeah, it's a good movie

Boondog Saints is definitely underrated.
Already watched Rope - reminded me that there are still hundreds of movies by great directors that I simply haven't got around to watch.

Ok so here's my completely off-topic suggestion:
The Wrestler. I'm still kind of ambiguous towards Daaren Arnofsky... I think his movies are mainly destructive, and I can't get much out of them, but I predict Mickey Rouke will have to rent storage space for awards after this one. Truly amazing work from all involved... This is Arnofsky's ticket to movie history imo.
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I never pay attention to the ratings. Some of my all time favourite movies are around 5/10, and then some of the worst crap I've ever seen gets praised by the critics.
I mean Donny Darko gets a higher rating than Lost Highway. And Karate Kid outranks Tideland... If I took that seriously I'd loose my hope in mankind.
you are absolutely right that some fall through the cracks and are over or underrated, but if you choose nothing but 5s you're gonna see mostly crap, and if you choose nothing but 8s you're gonna see mostly goodness.

also, people need to learn to make the distinction between what they like and what's good. we are all very biased, and can easily be swayed one way or the other based on emotions and prerogatives and past experiences. an example: if i had my biased way, outlaw josey wales would be one of the best movies of all time. well its simply not, but because i love that type of stuff and i really enjoyed that movie over multiple viewings my kneejerk reaction is that its one of the best ive seen. when in actuality, there are so many movies that are simply better than it, and the only way i can see that is if i do my best to apply objectivity to viewing.
 
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my favs are 5/10. all rockys and rambos lol
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wtf, the best movies youve NEVER seen.
Seriously? Was the thread title too tricky?


Rambo/Rocky were all awesome. That's what I'm talking about. Those imdb arthouse fags wouldn't know a good movie if Bud Spencer jammed it up their ass.


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I think it's plain silly to objectively rate art. Dawn of the Dead is the best movie of all times par none, and I refuse to ever watch Star Wars because it's a historical costume film disguised as science fiction, and that is just plain immoral. You don't do it.

It's like Paul Schrader might make technically fine films, and I would not know how to objectively tell him apart from Scorsese, but one is one of the best directors of all time and the other one shouldn't be trusted with donkey porn imo.
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wtf, the best movies youve NEVER seen.
Seriously? Was the thread title too tricky?


Rambo/Rocky were all awesome. That's what I'm talking about. Those imdb arthouse fags wouldn't know a good movie if Bud Spencer jammed it up their ass.
four of those are rated highly.

imdb is a lay peer review system based on averages. that is VERY reliable when compared to just about any other system. like i said, and like you ignored, on imdb the large majority of movies with high average ratings are good, and the large majority of movies with low average ratings are bad. there is much much more to understanding the rating system and what it means, but as usual, im sure nobody cares about correctness.
 
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 I still don't think it's worth paying attention to. There's tons of horrible crap with good ratings.
Compare:
Unarguably the best movie of all times:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077402/

Worst movie of all times - only a fool or a whore would disagree:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097165/

.2 points difference. Seriously?

You are right, but it's still not worth paying attention to. Better look for who directed it, who produced it, who published it, who acted in it, who wrote it...
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I think it's plain silly to objectively rate art. Dawn of the Dead is the best movie of all times par none, and I refuse to ever watch Star Wars because it's a historical costume film disguised as science fiction, and that is just plain immoral. You don't do it.

It's like Paul Schrader might make technically fine films, and I would not know how to objectively tell him apart from Scorsese, but one is one of the best directors of all time and the other one shouldn't be trusted with donkey porn imo.
didnt see this due to edit

silly to objectively rate art? really?

what if instead of sculpting david, michelangelo took a dump on a stool? is there no way to be objective about that?

reality is that most people have no clue what art actually is, yet because it 'seems' to be so intuitively based, people assume there is no role for reason.

check it yo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_art do you know what philosophy is? if it were actually true that there is no reasoning or objectivity to art then the philosophy of art would not exist. not only that, but art itself would not exist. nothing that exists doesnt have behind it philosophy, and philosophy is based in reasoning and objectivity

i can even go so far as to say that art may actually be 100% objective. this would be because it is very likely that the universe is finite, and if something is finite it is explicable, and that means that correctness can be known.
 
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I still don't think it's worth paying attention to. There's tons of horrible crap with good ratings.
Compare:
Unarguably the best movie of all times:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077402/

Worst movie of all times - only a fool or a whore would disagree:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097165/

.2 points difference. Seriously?

You are right, but it's still not worth paying attention to. Better look for who directed it, who produced it, who published it, who acted in it, who wrote it...
how can you be so disingenuous as to claim that one way of evaluating movies is good, yet another way that relies on the exact same principles is not? when you look for directors, writers, etc you're looking for averages. excellent artists make total crap too. when you are looking to them you are appealing to their likelyhood of creating something good. the exact same goes for the lay peer review of imdb. when something is rated high it has a higher likelyhood of being good than something that is rated low. youre also being ignorant if you believe it to be so cut and dry. i could go on for days about what ive learned about reading the imdb rating system just like i can go on for days about what ive learned about reading the HUD system

however, i am skeptical now that you are trolling because your definitive claims about dawn and poets are absurd.
 
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 how can it be the best movie you've never seen? i mean, seeing the damn thing is not like the whole point of any given movie?

how can you determine its good or great or whatever if you've never seen it?
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 uh guys the point of the thread was to post really great movies that aren't mainstream

also dawn of the dead is very very good, but best movie ever inarguably??? come on
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how can it be the best movie you've never seen? i mean, seeing the damn thing is not like the whole point of any given movie?

how can you determine its good or great or whatever if you've never seen it?
It's meant to be read from the other perspective. I'm telling you the best movies that you very likely have never seen.
I thought I made it pretty clear that I have not only seen those movies but think they're among the best I've ever seen. - English is not my native language, so I screw things up once in a while.

I don't want this stupid argument. There is no way of objectively determining the quality of art, just the quality of craftsmanship. I could not care less about how any movies rankes up to any other movie. Either I like it or I don't. Everything else doesn't make any sense to me.
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