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RbSX
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10-18-2005, 01:54 PM
Post subject: Anyone else find Party Poker blackjack to be FAR to easy?
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Last night I was screwing around with $100, turned it into $850 over the course of an hour betting $25 eachtime.
I can easily see myself making 5,000 a night betting $100...
Anyone else tried it?
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UG
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Seeing that your sample size is so large.....I am going to deposit my entire BR and play this RIGHT NOW.
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CrunchyNuts
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Hum, what custom rules do they use that give the player such a huge advantage?
Or are you just "lucky" and wasting our time?
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Robert
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Full House
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Variance in Blackjack can be CRAZY I tell you (I know from my casino whoring experience). You could just as well have lost $850.
Is this a joke btw? 
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LeFou
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if you have mad-phat blackjack 5killz you could probably only lose -.5% on each hand over the long run. Play on!
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RbSX
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by Ultimate George
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No need for the sarcasm man..
I just prefer it because theres nothing other than math involved, no fish or anything.
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by RbSX
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Originally Posted by Ultimate George
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No need for the sarcasm man..
I just prefer it because theres nothing other than math involved, no fish or anything. |
yea and the math will prove that you will loose.
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CrunchyNuts
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Which means there's only one fish - the player.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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-EV
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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UG
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Yes, I do believe there WAS a need for the sarcasm. It was SO needed.
And I couldn't have said it better myself..."Yeah, and the math says that you will lose, which means there is only one fish.....and that fish is you."
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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There is plenty of material around the internet on perfect blackjack strategy. I think the only way to make it a +EV is to adjust bet sizing compared to how many high cards or low cards are remaining in the deck after so many hands. This is impossible online, I believe.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Robert
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Full House
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Shh, dont tell him all this. Its because of people like him the casinos keep offering deposit bonuses making casinowhoring all the more easier for the rest of us!
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BoondockSaint
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10-18-2005, 07:59 PM
Post subject: Re: Anyone else find [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Refer
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by RbSX
Last night I was screwing around with $100, turned it into $850 over the course of an hour betting $25 eachtime.
I can easily see myself making 5,000 a night betting $100...
Anyone else tried it?
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this reminds me of my sisternlaws brother who made 300 betting red and black on roulette over a couple hours and now whenever he is short on his SUV payment he thinks he can just go to the casino and make the difference
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r8ed
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I'd rather play against fish than against a game that will beat you in the long run. Take your $850 and play against the fish and never play blackjack again.
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UknowBetter
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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.61% for the house if you play perfect basic strategy.
Shuffled after ten percent of the cards are dealt. Ten percent! LMAO "We don't want anyone even THINKING that it is possible to count cards here. "
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Les_Worm
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Originally Posted by UknowBetter
.61% for the house if you play perfect basic strategy.
Shuffled after ten percent of the cards are dealt. Ten percent! LMAO "We don't want anyone even THINKING that it is possible to count cards here. "
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and they use 8 decks.
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The artist formerly known as Knish
Only mediocre players are always at their best.
Phil Ivey Owns You
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pokerfanatic
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Online BJ = -EV... SideBests = -EV
only time BJ becomes +EV is if you card count and last time i checked it was imposible to card count a RNG... 
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"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
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DoGGz
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this is hilarious
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midas06
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on a side note, boon is the king of casino whoring.
that is all
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
only time BJ becomes +EV is if you insert a finger in the anus
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FYP
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BoondockSaint
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Originally Posted by midas06
on a side note, boon is the king of casino whoring.
that is all
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i second that
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The_Bankroll
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yeah, for this story about making money on PP blackjack, I've read just as many stories about people losing about a grand on blackjack. believe me, I've learned my lesson about trying to beat blackjack the hard way. it's a -EV game with high variance. If you happened to make money in one session, bravo to you. let me tell you my story:
I was playing on Bodog, it the middle of a horrible swing (down -$150 at the time, which was bad for my limits, $25NL and $10+1 SNGs at the time) so I decide to play blackjack one night for the hell of it. I bring $25 to the table, trying the double your bet when you lose strategy. I turned that $25 into $250, and soon ended up losing it all. If I would've have known when to quit, I could've had some good luck and erased my bad luck due to some good luck.
Moral of the story: Blackjack sucks.
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EasyT
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
I think the only way to make it a +EV is to adjust bet sizing compared to how many high cards or low cards are remaining in the deck after so many hands. This is impossible online, I believe.
-'rilla
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Online bonus money makes BJ EV+, obviously.
P.S. I'm so sick of this thread I had to add to it. (?????) I now hate myself.
EasyT
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gabe
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ive been 4 tabling the BJ tables, making about 3bb/100
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gabe
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JK!
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UG
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OMG I ALMOST FELL FOR THAT ONE
YOU BASTARD
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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I am the BIshop of Casino Whoring.
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okietalker
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Next thing you know we will be getting bad beat stories from these people who play BJ.
"So I was dealt lik A9 and the dealer had a 6 up............ lucky MOFO hit his his 5 for 21. I think it's rigged"
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Just my opinion (and I'm probably wrong) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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jmontis
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Full House
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If i were you i'd take the $850 and never play BJ again
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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While I am the Grand Poobah of Casino Whoring. 
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I'm a know-it-all.
No, really.
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Rondavu
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Originally Posted by jmontis
If i were you i'd take the $850 and never play BJ again
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Or if you put it all on one bet you could double up to $1700. I think that's the way to go.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
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Originally Posted by jmontis
If i were you i'd take the $850 and never play BJ again
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Or if you put it all on one bet you could double up to $1700. I think that's the way to go. |
But then what's to stop you from doing the same with your free 1700?
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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UG
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Turn it into 3400. Why the hell not?
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diabloiij
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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dude i say ride ur hot streak, u only have to 2x up 8 more times to become a millionare. that's about 10 second per hand. become a millionire in a minute and a half. that would be a way better story to tell on this forum.
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currently playing micro limits on PokerStar
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gengar
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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I find PP to be extremely streaky (not that B+M isn't streaky either). Last month, I started with measly $25 hands while 3tabling and went up to $200 hands pretty quick. Was up $8500 over the course of just over 2hrs of play. Too bad it's table max.
Of course, I can't really justify compless gambling at any rate.
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baddy
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Blackjack is evil, take that money and run for the hills.
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midas06
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edit.
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Jimmybobbin
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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i lost my $150 doubling my bet after i lost each time pretty quickly..
pretty dumb, dealer checks for blackjack, not used to these rules
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Fleece
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the other day i was at a casino playing and i got dealt AJ. i slammed the cards in front of the dealer and said "BLACKJACK BIATCH". The dealer replied "sir for the last time this isnt a blackjack table we are playing Texas Holdem Poker. GOD DAMMIT RIGGED!!! 
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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two equations
blackjack= -ev (without bonuses)
fleece= -ev
ty
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phantom_lord
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10-23-2006, 12:26 AM
Post subject: Re: Anyone else find [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Refer
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Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by RbSX
Last night I was screwing around with $100, turned it into $850 over the course of an hour betting $25 eachtime.
I can easily see myself making 5,000 a night betting $100...
Anyone else tried it?
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I sat down at the bj the last two nights I was there and doubled my buy-in and left each time.
Do u reckon I should go pro?
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midas06
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lol awesome bump
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phantom_lord
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Flush
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Originally Posted by midas06
lol awesome bump
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Sorry, didn't realise how old this was....
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Ash256
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Blackjack sucks.
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Halv
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pro crastinator
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Tell that to the $11,632.42 that I've taken out of my blackjack roll.
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Seasider
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Flush
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Tell that to the $11,632.42 that I've taken out of my blackjack roll.
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"Hi $11,632.42. How are you? Is the evening treating you well? Good Good friendly crowd I know. Anyway blacjack sucks just so you know"
Job done, next....
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Halv
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I soooooo wanted to make a gimmick account named $11,632.42 to respond to that. Let's just pretend I made one and used it to say something funny. 
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ChrisTheFish
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
I soooooo wanted to make a gimmick account named $11,632.42 to respond to that. Let's just pretend I made one and used it to say something funny. |
Wanna know how to turn that into $23,264.84?
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Grndr101
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its impossible to win at blackjack in the long run just because the math prove it, but if you want to lose your money on the long run just join the nl game on bodog ill be there
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