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Old 04-23-2008, 12:54 PM     Post subject: animals you could kill without weapons #1 (permalink)  
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i was discussign animals you could kill without weaposns. Rules- bare hands and feet. What coud you kill. Horse? Punching ineffectual against? as is cow. Dog yes cat yes all other small animals/rodents yes ranging from crush to chopping right hand. Getting into the larger mammal neighbourhood becomes grey area. giraffe? work the body and e head will fall. Getting to primates becomes tough as they are better fighters. thoughts
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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well, arnt humans considered medium game? So any large game is out of the question.

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Old 04-23-2008, 01:15 PM #3 (permalink)  
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well, arnt humans considered medium game? So any large game is out of the question.
Bullshit. People have killed large cats with their bare hands.
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FWIW I wouldn't be the crazy motherfucker to try it.
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bugs. i could kill bugs with my bare hands

 
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Couldnt we try to startle large game and chase them off a cliff or something? Is that outside the bounds of bare-hands?

And do you have proof that people have killed large cats with their bare hands?

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the thing thats stupid about this question is that you could kill any domesticated animal like a dog, horse, or whatever, because they will be very passive, and even if they did retaliate, it wouldnt be until after you got them in a grip they cant get out of.

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Couldnt we try to startle large game and chase them off a cliff or something? Is that outside the bounds of bare-hands?

And do you have proof that people have killed large cats with their bare hands?
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I punched a donkey.

I was in one of those gay donkey sanctuary things (they're everywhere in England and always full of old people).

I was feeding it some grass and the fucker bit me. My natural reaction was to smack it in the face.

I was asked to leave, but I recon if it had come down to it I could have killed it.
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i would be pretty scared to fight a horse with my bare hands, and a giraffe. a 500 lb gorilla would suck too. man f that i'll just go get my 30 odd 6.

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Couldnt we try to startle large game and chase them off a cliff or something? Is that outside the bounds of bare-hands?

And do you have proof that people have killed large cats with their bare hands?
Indians did this with buffalo(or maybe some other animal) herds would kill thousands at a time.
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Couldnt we try to startle large game and chase them off a cliff or something? Is that outside the bounds of bare-hands?


^^^ yeah, you could kill pretty much anything that way, so I think it's out-of-bounds.
 
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Couldnt we try to startle large game and chase them off a cliff or something? Is that outside the bounds of bare-hands?

And do you have proof that people have killed large cats with their bare hands?
Indians did this with buffalo(or maybe some other animal) herds would kill thousands at a time.
ya right no way it was just bare hands. them wood choppers had spears or something. (saying this without ever looking anything up).

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what about a buck? I feel like the horns would give you good leverage to snap the neck, but how strong is a buck's neck?!
 
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what about a buck? I feel like the horns would give you good leverage to snap the neck, but how strong is a buck's neck?!
Strong enough to put a horn through your face while you try.
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Couldnt we try to startle large game and chase them off a cliff or something? Is that outside the bounds of bare-hands?

And do you have proof that people have killed large cats with their bare hands?
Indians did this with buffalo(or maybe some other animal) herds would kill thousands at a time.
ya right no way it was just bare hands. them wood choppers had spears or something. (saying this without ever looking anything up).
I could attempt it with just my bare hands.

It seems like an odd question where you're taking away man's ability to alter his environment to his favor (tools, weapons, traps, teams) and leaving him with just his weak fleshy sack of self. I could not chase down most animals which were prey (those that probably can't fight) and would be unable to defend myself against those which are either larger than me or armed with fangs/claws/other shit that I can't grow.

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fighting a buffalo would suck. i mean right off the bat i'd go for the eyes or something to render it blind, but still all it would take was just ramming you and and running all over your body and fuck you're dead. plus im 140 lbs and not a 500 lb gorilla.

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lol this thread was the product of a drunken lunch

there atcually arent that many larger animals that you would call pussies, maybe cows, but trying to strangle a cow (prob best tactic) may still be tough. even sweet horses can turn violent if provoked. fighting a bluffalo would indeed suck, even if you landed a choice uppercut as it came in. you would break your hand. and kicking wont work as you have no shoes on.

the animal would prob have more fighting smarts than you bargain for too. conclusion, most beasts can fight and animal kingdoms in general owns humans.
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Its not to much to brag about, but i once killed a sheep, using my bare mind!

I was at my cabbin, way up in the mountains.. And i saw a sheep standing there and i decided to run after it. Little did i know there was a cliff not far away. The sheep got so scared it jumped off the cliff, and i could see the the sheep getting further and further away until it splatted on a stone :/
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humans biggest strengths include intelligence (including the ability to create and effectively use tools such as spears) and the ability to communicate (via language).

therefore, give me a large caliber rifle and a couple buddies with the same, and I could take down some of the biggest land animals alive.
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humans biggest strengths include intelligence (including the ability to create and effectively use tools such as spears) and the ability to communicate (via language).

therefore, give me a large caliber rifle and a couple buddies with the same, and I could take down some of the biggest land animals alive.
thats cool. Not like anyone already said this.

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It seems like an odd question where you're taking away man's ability to alter his environment to his favor (tools, weapons, traps, teams) and leaving him with just his weak fleshy sack of self. I could not chase down most animals which were prey (those that probably can't fight) and would be unable to defend myself against those which are either larger than me or armed with fangs/claws/other shit that I can't grow.
oh, wait, I lied.
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humans biggest strengths include intelligence (including the ability to create and effectively use tools such as spears) and the ability to communicate (via language).

therefore, give me a large caliber rifle and a couple buddies with the same, and I could take down some of the biggest land animals alive.
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I punched a donkey.

I was in one of those gay donkey sanctuary things (they're everywhere in England and always full of old people).

I was feeding it some grass and the fucker bit me. My natural reaction was to smack it in the face.

I was asked to leave, but I recon if it had come down to it I could have killed it.
I don't know why but I literally had to stand up before I fell out of my chair laughing. Nobody else found this funny?
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i dont know, but OP thinks he could kill a giraffe with his bare hands-- NO WAY
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I think I could take a porcupine with a few kicks to the head.
 
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I punched a donkey.

I was in one of those gay donkey sanctuary things (they're everywhere in England and always full of old people).

I was feeding it some grass and the fucker bit me. My natural reaction was to smack it in the face.

I was asked to leave, but I recon if it had come down to it I could have killed it.
I don't know why but I literally had to stand up before I fell out of my chair laughing. Nobody else found this funny?
I did, but lately too many of my replies have been simply "lol"ing at something someone said.


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I would hate to have to be in that situation, but I would give it my best. My guess would be Bear 1 mrhappy O
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I punched a donkey.

I was in one of those gay donkey sanctuary things (they're everywhere in England and always full of old people).

I was feeding it some grass and the fucker bit me. My natural reaction was to smack it in the face.

I was asked to leave, but I recon if it had come down to it I could have killed it.
I don't know why but I literally had to stand up before I fell out of my chair laughing. Nobody else found this funny?
This was amazing. And seriously...what the fuck?? A donkey sanctuary? lol, wow
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big cats like lions and leopards (not tigers, well actually maybe small tigers like south china tigers, but no way a bengal) have been killed with bare hands. its obviously by the indigenous folk who live/hunt/track in those areas, and its incredibly rare. the method has to do with something along the lines of when attacked by the cat the man shoves his fist down its throat and chokes it out. i believe about a year ago i read a story of a small guy who was approached by a leopard, dropped his machete in preparation, the leopard pounced, then the guy pulled out its tongue. thats some crazy skill and luck considering that cats most often attack undetected.
heres footage from a documentary called Living With Tigers (super awesome doc, well worth it) where the trainer explains how to survive a tiger attack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdVTaEiQpJo

and no fucking way any human ever kills a giraffe barehanded. even lions have difficulty with that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FPG2wXhXY

whats funny is how you guys think you could kill a dog with your bare hands. yes some humans can, but take the kangal for example. a dog bred to protect sheep from cougars. not like any of your skinny asses would stand a chance against that thing. im pretty big and strong and i think i would only stand a chance against smaller breeds of fighting dogs. a pit bull may only be 40-80 pounds but it will drag and shake your ass across the floor. dogs dont really kill any humans other than women and children though. they're just not efficient enough to kill grown men much, but a grown man killing a dog bred to fuck shit up is an entirely different thing. of course if a man is trained to do it he would be quite successful.

and fwiw, wolves are pussies compared to elite mastiff variations. i would fuck a wolf up.

 
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LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT MOTHER FUCKER
lol i can't imagine anyone thinking anything but this the first time they see that picture.
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kangals were/are one of the most elite fight dogs. kinda obvious why. size isn't all though. some of the best fighters are small dogs.

i personally find it kind of a shame that animal fights are illegal. i am very against treating animals improperly like those who fight animals do, but i am also not clueless enough to think that piting animals in duels is cruel and unusual or some shit. anybody who thinks animals fighting/killing each other is wrong is ignorant to how things work in the wild. each and every wild animal is lucky to not get eaten alive, starve or freeze to death, or some other horrible shit that modernized humans no longer endure.

i also think we should bring back the colosseum. perfect way to clean up the prisons and homeless while fixing the economy and naivety.
 
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tosa. japanese fight dog i believe.



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boerboel. they say the boerboel is the only mastiff left without serious genetic flaws due to over specialized breeding. im hoping to get one someday. also gonna get a bobcat.



im not that huge a dog fan, but i love me some mastiffs.
 
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I have had two mastiffs and now have a newf.

We had to put down our 2nd mastiff because she was too aggressive. And that is a bad combo in a big dog even though she was a runt she still weighed in around 120lb.

Our first mastiff was kinda "slow" like if he was a person he would ride the short bus. But he was a gentle giant all 200lbs of him.

My newf is around 140 I think but looks bigger because of the fur. And we play fight all the time. Inside the house I can kick his ass with a head lock. Outside he beats the shit outa me if I turn my back on him he will charge me knock me down grab my shirt sleeve and drag me across the yard.

Now with out a doubt either of the mastiffs would kill me in a fight but I was younger when we had em. The Newf I think I might be able to kill, he does have a minor case of hip dyspalsia(sp?). I am not to sure though a few times when I have got him on his back and pretend to choke him he has kicked me clear off himself. It is hard to tell because he is so gentle even play fighting he always makes sure to not bite my skin just my clothes(which sucks when he jumps me in nicer clothes)

Cliff Notes: All of my 100+lbs dogs could most likely kill me
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I have had two mastiffs and now have a newf.

We had to put down our 2nd mastiff because she was too aggressive. And that is a bad combo in a big dog even though she was a runt she still weighed in around 120lb.
what specific breed was she?
 
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I know that if you startle an Elk, it's own fear reaction will tear the muscles in it's front quarters, rendering it useless. So I could kill an elk if I can sneak up on it and scare it.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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I know that if you startle an Elk, it's own fear reaction will tear the muscles in it's front quarters, rendering it useless. So I could kill an elk if I can sneak up on it and scare it.
i have raped many o elk this way
 
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I think she was a english not positive though

my other one that weighed 200lbs was a nea and english mix
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I know that if you startle an Elk, it's own fear reaction will tear the muscles in it's front quarters, rendering it useless. So I could kill an elk if I can sneak up on it and scare it.
i have raped many o elk this way
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I know that if you startle an Elk, it's own fear reaction will tear the muscles in it's front quarters, rendering it useless. So I could kill an elk if I can sneak up on it and scare it.
i have raped many o elk this way
Why the hell is it that everyone that knows this trick to killing an elk also jokes about raping it? Seriously, every hairy nosed, balding, chubby emer fudd lookalike in Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho, knows this... and will drop trou the moment it happens. JFC.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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im pretty sure i could kill a five hundred pound gorilla
 
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big cats like lions and leopards (not tigers, well actually maybe small tigers like south china tigers, but no way a bengal) have been killed with bare hands. its obviously by the indigenous folk who live/hunt/track in those areas, and its incredibly rare. the method has to do with something along the lines of when attacked by the cat the man shoves his fist down its throat and chokes it out. i believe about a year ago i read a story of a small guy who was approached by a leopard, dropped his machete in preparation, the leopard pounced, then the guy pulled out its tongue. thats some crazy skill and luck considering that cats most often attack undetected.
heres footage from a documentary called Living With Tigers (super awesome doc, well worth it) where the trainer explains how to survive a tiger attack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdVTaEiQpJo
crazy stuff, but isn't this probably due to the tiger really getting to know the guy? (just making assumptions based on the title, never seen it before). Maybe if you're attacked by a tiger this is your best chance, as you're certainly not going to out-run or out-fight one. but it seems optimistic at best in a real encounter.

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and no fucking way any human ever kills a giraffe barehanded. even lions have difficulty with that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2FPG2wXhXY
lol no kidding. I didn't watch this vid yet but a giraffe must way what? 2-3000 pounds? 20 feet tall? a human killing it with his bare hands?????

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whats funny is how you guys think you could kill a dog with your bare hands. yes some humans can, but take the kangal for example. a dog bred to protect sheep from cougars. not like any of your skinny asses would stand a chance against that thing. im pretty big and strong and i think i would only stand a chance against smaller breeds of fighting dogs. a pit bull may only be 40-80 pounds but it will drag and shake your ass across the floor. dogs dont really kill any humans other than women and children though. they're just not efficient enough to kill grown men much, but a grown man killing a dog bred to fuck shit up is an entirely different thing. of course if a man is trained to do it he would be quite successful.
first things that came to my mind were breed, size, training, etc of the dogs. i mean there's just such a vast difference between say, a little poodle, a police K9, or a real badass dog like some of the ones you're talking about. among the fighting dogs, i think just about everybody would get f'd up by them. i mean, most people aren't good at fighting other people, and a dog is far quicker, nastier, faster, more ruthless, has teeth, etc.




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This can't be right. I mean, I can't immediately refute this and I know that humans are VERY far from being impressive purely from a speed/strength standpoint, but I still think it has to be wrong. There have to be some exceptions out there.
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