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09-23-2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
I feel like I need god, but because he is an illusion, I cannot get it straight.
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I'm not exactly sure if wufwugy copied this from somebody or wrote it himself.
Anywho, I read it and it sums up my idea of God pretty well. God is just "too convenient" for me to believe that He isn't just a figment of people's imaginations. I mean, He's there to listen to your prayers and perhaps grant them. He gives reason to good people dying (it was their time; God needs them now) and He is pretty much the fallback for most people (thing are bad now, but God will take care of it). When you've done something wrong and you feel really bad about it, just tell God about it and everything will be alright. Does it not seem that God can just be TOO convenient and provide the answer that humans just CAN'T live without?
Also, it's amazing how much atheists are totally SHUNNED in American society (I cannot speak so much for other societies). Somehow, I'm an ignoramus for not believing in God. It's pretty irritating that, even though my belief seems to be based more on FACTS, I'm just retarded for not believing in God (almost as if God OBVIOUSLY EXISTS). Pretty annoying. I leave this paragraph with a snippet straight out of my Facebook (It was a comment on a picture I posted up that I got from here; basically mocking the idea of Jesus):
Funny how "atheist are homos" is probably the idea most Catholics have (get it, they hate homos too?). Also, sad that behind closed doors, Krystiana is quick to discuss atheism with me. However, on Facebook, she isn't atheist. *SIGH*
I have a big problem with religions as a whole (note: religion and belief in God are two separate things). It just seems like an organization of people pushing their beliefs on others and trying to control what they do. They put constraints on what can/cannot be done and basically, it's a restraint on life. I mean, Muslims and Jews will never eat bacon (that was a quasi-joke, but you get my drift)! It's just sad for me to see people live blindly for a religion that may or may not be correct in what they preach. Their whole life was devoted to this religion and they miss out on the more important things in life, like bacon (again, bacon is a mere symbol for the finer things in life...though nothing is finer than bacon).
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You can find 3 other people willing to say "People who believe in God are delusional wierdos." It's like the comments section on youtube political videos, you read it just to see what people are capable of saying, but nothing said there holds any water. That's the rub with the conversations, people can say everything, meaning and believing it fully, without any need to tether it to proof, reality or anything other than their dreams of their creator.
It's just something you gotta answer for yourself. But if there is a God, he has nothing to do with Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Buddhists or any of the other guesses people have made over time.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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Yeah but that's all the point. You can't pimp someone if part of your program is showing them how they would be better off without you. How would you make money then?
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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And yah, I do believe that people who believe in God are wrong. But I'm not gonna try to change their minds. It's either impossible or for self-gratification. I only need to know for myself, why they're wrong. And if they're ever interested to ask me why or try and change my mind, I'll gladly share what I think I know.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Again, I respect everyone's opinion equally. I am not one to try to push my "THERE IS NO GOD!" agenda on other people. I actually try to avoid the argument since their only argument is "You have to have faith" (where my counter-argument is usually: "No."). I guess it's just annoying for me since most of my friends are the ones I met at school (again, Catholic school).
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But if there is a God, he has nothing to do with Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Buddhists or any of the other guesses people have made over time.
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I totally agree. And it's really in my believe that religion has done more harm in this world than good. Look at the conflict in the Middle East. Terrorists are doing what they do in the name of religion (an extremist view of their religion). Nothing good comes out of Jews and their belief in Zion.
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You just have to ignore it. Like a friend with a mole on his face, you just accept that it's there and ignore it.
"Aethists just wanna be different, fcking wierdos!"
"When did it start being cool to fall in line?"
And now you're on your way to a new, fresh conversation with friends!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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It's just something you gotta answer for yourself. But if there is a God, he has nothing to do with Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Buddhists or any of the other guesses people have made over time.
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i went to catholic school for 14 yrs and was super religious from like 7th grade through like 11th grade, and at a certain point, i learned too much about church history for me to think it was all believable. seriously, i don't know how all the priests who taught me (totally nice, awesome, smart people) can take all their vigorous tests on church and scripture and know all they know and not see how fuckin' whacky it is.
i mean, they taught us that there are like 23 gospels and that early christians just like decided on which ones to use by god knows what standards (couldn't've been on validity 'cause it was like a century and a half after christ's death), and many of the other gospels COMPLETELY contradict many of the things in the accepted gospels, and they agree on many of the points that contradict central things to catholicism (like uhhhh immaculate conception). AND THEN (the gospels aren't even the end of the process for dogmaticism), like half of christianity's beliefs (yes, all of christianity, not just catholics) come from counsel's and pope's decrees and all this crap, which is essentially the equivalent of judges interpreting the constitution and making many human errors along the way (like corporations having the same rights as people).
so basically you need to believe ALLLL this crap to believe in divine intervention in the writing of the gospels:
the disciples who taught and passed down the oral tradition of jesus was "perfect"-----> the people then passed THAT oral tradition down was "perfect"--------> the process of writing it and editting and so forth was "perfect"--------> the decision on which 4 outta friggin 23 to include in the new testament was "perfect"----------> all of the thousands and thousands of official dogmatisms and unofficial precendents that have been passed down to us as interpretations of the gospels is "perfect"
sooooo, like boog said, it's all way way way way way "too convenient" to just to be taught it and, as a rational human being, to not doubt any of this crap.
so then protestants come along and claim that they completely base their beliefs on the supposedly perfect scripture and that's like 10 x's more of a train wreck, and involves even more closed-minded interpretation (jews are going to hell, etc).
and then i read life of pi in 11th grade and realized "oh yeah, wtf, why do i just assume that muslims and jews are wrong even though they believe what they believe just as vigorously and zealously as i believe in what i believe? soooo faith does not at all equal truth because there are all sorts of faiths and they all contradict each other." and that thought process was the beginning of the end for me.
soooo basically most of society just walks around going "if i believe IT hard enough, and if i just attribute everything to god working in mysterious ways and just spit on people who are CRAAAAZY enough to not believe EXACTLY what i believe, then IT must be true."
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"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." -Voltaire
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I remember in my highschool english class when I asked why 1984 is so special, since Orwell was just a man telling a story. He could have easily made the scenes different, the characters different, or not written the story altogether. My teacher told me "someone else would have written it."
I always hated that answer until now.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/09/19/research-finds-that-atheists-are-most-hated-and-distrusted-minority/
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for the double post, not terribly surprised by this, especially if the title were "most distrusted and misunderstood minority"
it is vastly less politically correct to openly hate muslims because the religion's tied to a race and so forth, so i'm sure the results are pretty skewed.
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but if you wackjobs dont beleive in god, then you clearly dont have any morals!
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Why don't we just make a new religion? Where my god is Me. That I am not made in his image, but exactly in his image. My answers to my questions are god's word exactly. Since my god is me. From there, all of my beliefs become gospel and you have to respect my religion like you respect all others.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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i have converted to the a500lbgorilla religion. i think we're like halfway to being accepted as a real one
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But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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welcome brother
edit to clarify, your god would be you.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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If there is a god and you meet him in heaven when you kick the bucket, do you think that someone, like for instance a blind person or maybe a Welshman, gets to up heaven and is like "Yeah God. Fuck you."
I know I would.
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God's Final Message to His Creation: "Sorry for all the inconvenience."
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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welcome to the dark side, Boog. Welcome.
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Gods final message to his unmarried believers:"Sorry you died a virgin"
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God's final message to bigred: "Your lifestyle was a sin."
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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God's final message to a500lbgorilla: "LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH"
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Now it is such a bizarrely improbably coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful [the Babel fish] could have evolved by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (book one of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy series), p 50
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Damn. If there are no people that actually believe in God, there is no discussion...though I guess we can be all like "LOLBELIEVERS."
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But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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what if I told you I was god
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what if I told you I was god
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I would believe this being that you run like Him.
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God's Final Message to His Creation: "Sorry for all the inconvenience."
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You're totally channelling Kurt Vonnegut here, dude. Good jerb.
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needs more religious people ITT
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Oh, lord. To see so many lost souls wretches at my old heart. No surprise you've gathered on an underground gambling website filled with pornography. No surprise at all. Oh, my poor heart.
Children, you are so lost in life. Have any of you any true direction? Of course not. I've seen it, you all hammer away at edicts like "I'm just living life." FOOLISH!
Life is but a grain of sand in the hour-glass of time! No comparison to the life lived held in God's arms after Jesus returns to judge the non-believers! That's how I know I'm right. If Jesus had descended to Earth and not judged your heathens, then I'd look damn foolish, wouldn't I?
Now, Children, bring me your questions of non-belief and I shall chuckle knowingly and offer wisdom based on my 2000 year old dogmas!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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Precisely.
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lol people still believe in God?
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He got strike donged for linking to a pic of a gay angel jacking it.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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Precisely.
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lol people still believe in God?
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Only the Jews. Well, the ones left anyway.
Which is interesting because I'd think they'd have plenty of reasons not to believe in God.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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god is an answer the the big questions that have none. although all religions are trying to answer the same thing, they do it by applying their own silly labels or traditions or stories or laws. you can believe in god without being a part of any religion. organized religion is just a business, and tax free! if you want to be spiritual, just appreciate the mysteriousness of nature and life and pray to tom hanks.
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also, preaching DOUBT is one of the best things we can do. no one knows, even if they claim to.
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In my religion, I eat chips and pigs whenever I want, masturbate without guilt and am just generally cool with everyone, even the gays. I try to give cash to people that need it but nobody wearing a collar. I only hit people if it prevents me or someone I love from getting hit and then I hit them hard enough that they feel like they were stoned in a pit. I shop at the grocery store on Sundays. Rape is a no no but coveting things is cool.
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In my religion, I eat chips and pigs whenever I want, masturbate without guilt and am just generally cool with everyone, even the gays. I try to give cash to people that need it but nobody wearing a collar. I only hit people if it prevents me or someone I love from getting hit and then I hit them hard enough that they feel like they were stoned in a pit. I shop at the grocery store on Sundays. Rape is a no no but coveting things is cool.
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Pretty much.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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My God can beat up your god!
C WHAT I DID THERE?!?!?!
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Why in Gods name do we need *** OFFICIAL *** threads on any fucking topic?!
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Why in Gods name do we need *** OFFICIAL *** threads on any fucking topic?!
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your questions are sinful
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Why in Gods name do we need *** OFFICIAL *** threads on any fucking topic?!
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your questions are sinful |
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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Could god make an apple so big that he couldn't eat it?
The fact that humans spend so much time and energy rationalizing about god is testament to how irrational we really are. This is because god is itself an unquantified paradox, and most of us continually disregard this. Many atheists and advocates of critical thinking like to say that god could exist, but because there is no evidence then belief is irrational. While this is sorta true, it is ultimately false.
The truth is that god is simply not even possible. The only way in which god would be able to exist is if anything and everything and nothing all exist together, separately, and the opposite simultaneously and never. This is because god itself is a fallacy. This fallacy is evident in many ways. The first line of the post, the impossibility of omniscience or omnipotence, and infinite regression* are just a few of the myriads of examples of why god cannot exist.
*Infinite regression is a conundrum created by thinking that existence was created. What created the creator? What created the creator's creator? What created the creator's creator's creator? Etc
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Since we are all poker players here, why not look at the God dilemma from a wagering perspective??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
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05-26-2012, 03:08 PM Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
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