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So, after a little discussion in IRC, it came up that 3 of us feel we need to get healthier, and more motivated. We decided we were all lacking on motivation and accountability, so figured a cardio prop-bet would help with both. We've roughed out the rules, and will be tracking out progress here. Rules (1) Participants: Stacks, BooG, Kiwi (2) 12 Week Commitment [At least to start, will re-evaluate after 12 weeks] (3) 5 days of cardio per week [Week starts on Monday of respective Time-zone, ends Sunday] (4) 30 minutes of cardio the 1st week [Time will increase by 5 minutes every 2 weeks, thereby at the end of the 12 weeks, minimum daily cardio is 1hr.] (5) Cardio Sessions must be 20 minutes minimum [Thus cannot split up cardio sessions until minimum daily is at least 40 minutes. Then can split into two sessions if you so choose] (6) $20 per missed day will be split and shipped to the other individuals at the end of the week [Example: Miss 3 days, you owe $60, that needs to be split among the other 2 participants at the end of the week] (7) $X/day will be evaluated at the end of 6 weeks, possibly staying the same or increasing. (8) Each participant must at minimum update the blog at the end of the week with their weeks progress. (9) A participant may buyout at any time for $5 per remaining day of 12 week period. Fwiw, the "definition" of cardio has been discussed, and we have decided since not everyone is at the same starting point and interested in doing the same type of cardio, the underlying principle is to not cheat yourself, and to push yourself each session. We will be taking each others words on the progress, and I feel that's easily okay with this group of guys. Any kind of progress update is fine, as well as any posts from others with ideas/tips/nudes/etc is welcome. Good Luck Guys. |
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[X] Just realized each excuse costs me $20. [X] But also pumped! |
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*cheers* this should be a fun thread. I vote for pics. Not before and after or nudes - pics of you guys huffin' on the stair-stepper! I think the prop deal is fantastic, good that you guys trust each other enough to do it. Good luck to each of you. |
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This is pretty awesome. I'd suggest adding something about sickness in there because cardio when you're sick is almost impossible. before and after pics imo! |
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[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven [00:30] <DC> on my hand? [00:30] <daven> yep [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk [00:30] <daven> nice reason [00:30] <daven> no further questions [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol Problem officer...?
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| If any of you are looking for some nutrition advice or some help with supplementation or just have any fitness questions, hit me up on MSN/AIM, I'll be happy to help. I'm not a big fan of cardio only exercise for weight loss but there are some things that can be done to speed things up or that can be changed around to make it a more muscle friendly exercise. For starters, look at the differences between HIIT and LISS types of cardio. I do think it's better to do interval type cardio as opposed to steady state types to preserve muscle and metabolism if your not training for actual cardio specific events. | |||
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[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven [00:30] <DC> on my hand? [00:30] <daven> yep [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk [00:30] <daven> nice reason [00:30] <daven> no further questions [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol Problem officer...?
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I don't intend to just do cardio. I'm well out of shape, and it has been just going downhill since HS graduation almost 4 years ago, so I'm hoping this thing sparks an entire lifestyle change towards being healthier. The cardio is just simply what I hate to do the most, and what would be easiest to propbet on. For me, it will start tomorrow [Monday], and I'm gonna go look for an iphone armband so I can jog while listening to some tunes. BooG linked me to this HIIT program called "Couch to 5k", which is a 3 day per week [I'll change it up a bit to meet propbet rules] for 9 weeks program. I was able to find a pretty kickass iPhone app tied to this, whereby the app will count down the walking/jogging timeframes for you (while still allowing you to play music in the background). So I think that is going to be the first thing I give a try. I also intend to start lifting weights, and eating healthier. Right now I only have classes 2 days per week, so 5 days out of the week I pretty much have totally free. There should be no excuse for not spending at least an hour or so each day getting in shape. |
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I love all the support already. I hustled myself into this prop somehow. I'm doing pretty well with the cardio but this is a good reason to not allow myself to take a day off just because I'm lazy. I've read about HIIT and such since Stax introduced the idea. I'll probably work that into my schedule and such. By the end of the twelve weeks, I hope to have a good enough time to run a 5K and not be embarrassed doing so. My schedule should look something like this: Monday & Wednesday - Workout at School Tuesday & Thursday - Workout with personal trainer - I'd like to get a 30 minute jog in before this to be honest Friday - This is the day I usually get lazy and don't do any cardio. Having it cost me $20 per week would suck. So instead of staying home all day, I'll go out and enjoy the day (since the weather is getting really nice in New York). Thank you prop bet. Stax forgot to include this tidbit. We do not discriminate against people in the future. What that means is that Kiwi is not required to do his cardio around Eastern Time. The "day" falls on our respective time zones. It's currently like 7am for Kiwi on MONDAY. Therefore, the prop bet has already began for him. We should expect an update from him about his first day... or $20. Hopefully it started off well. Anywho, that's my update. Good luck contestants. May nobody pay up the $20. |
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Just talked to Jyms on AIM about a few things, regarding nutrition/weight lifting. Right now this is what I'm looking at as far as plan/schedule. Will change in the future if it so needs, or I see it isn't working like I want it to. Nutrition Main thing is to reduce the intake of carbs, while increasing my protein. In the past I've been prone to eating a fair amount of sandwiches just because they are quick/easy to make. Since bread is not so great, I guess I'll have to get around to cooking. Plan on packing more meals full of chicken breast/fish[salmon/tuna] cooked on my George Foreman, as well as basic veggies [broccoli, cauliflower, etc]. This really shouldn't be too hard, as I'm not the type that likes to eat sweets, and always prefer a solid meal over junk food. Plan is 3-5 meals per day. I plan on throwing in some whey protein shakes into the mix. The only real foreseeable problem with this is my Tuesday/Thursday class schedule. On those days I'm up at 5am, out the door by 6, driving 1.5 hours to class that starts at 8, and in classes without a break till 2:30 in the afternoon. So in the past those days have been rough for when starting a diet, as I just haven't had time to eat, and would just hit up a fast food joint afterwards. Breakfast and dinner should be no prob on these days, and I intend to start packing something I can eat maybe during the 15 min break to change classes, as well taking a protein shake or two. Weight Lifting 3 days per week. The routine Jyms was describing was more of a circuit training routine than anything that I should be able to easily do on my home weight bench. The plan is to work out for 45 mins or so, with minimal 1 minute rests, doing 5 sets of 12/10/8/6/12 reps for each muscle group. Muscle groups being broken down to upper/lower/upper one week, followed by lower/upper/lower the next week, and so on. There is a small debate going on whether this circuit training can be considered cardio and thus count towards the prop-bet, or not, as it will obviously get the heartrate up, burn calories, and keep your metabolism up for hours to come. I'm okay with it counting or not. Ideally I hope I'm motivated enough to do this 3 days per week, and on top of that do the 5 days of cardio outlined in the propbet, whether they count towards cardio or not. Cardio Was addressed in earlier post, as a form of HIIT. Anyways, feeling pretty motivated just to become more active and better my lifestyle. Surely if this all goes right, only good things to come. |
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This is rigged. Letting BooG, who's been on a weightlifting/health kick since like October get in on this and then not letting me prop cuz I was a Marine is bull crap.  BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOPE YOU ALL LOSE!!!! |
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I revoke my previous statement. I hope only Stax loses. 
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| I'll do before/after pics if Stax agrees to doing them as well...moobs and all. | |||
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Awesome to see the support, guys! I have pretty much always been a skinny white boy (you know how with nerds it can go two ways, the glasses ones or the fat ones? I'm just missing the glasses), but that by no means is a result of good health or regular exercise. About four years ago, when I was sixteen, I started doing karate, and that's definitely the time that I was most in shape in my life. When I was eighteen, I went to Germany for a year and kinda let the karate go. However one my three host families was quite into running. Each year the father would run a supermarathon (72km or 45 miles) and my hostbrother a normal marathon. They asked if I wanted to do a half marathon, and being too shy/polite to refuse, I accepted, and started training and completed the half-marathon in just under two hours, which I was really happy with, and discovered that I really enjoyed running. Shortly after that I took part in a ten-man 172km relay, which I also really enjoyed. However without something to train for on the horizon, my motivation pretty much disappeared, and I'm kinda disappointed in myself to realise that it's now been two years since I was running in any kind of committed way. Since moving out of home at the beginning of this year, my diet's become even worse, and what little exercise I got cycling to and from uni has also been removed, since I live so much closer. As my super-dooper teenage-boy metabolism abandons me, I'm slowly but surely starting to put on weight. So I'm hoping that this prop bet motivates me to get back into something that I know I enjoy, and I know that I feel much better about everything in general when doing regular exercise. I'm also thinking about getting back into karate, as that's something I really miss. As the least affluent (or in boog's kind words, the most busto) of the three, I actually can't really afford to miss a day, so I'm in the happy position of having no choice but to follow through with this. DC does raise a good point about sickness, though, as it's coming into winter here and that shit spreads like wildfire amongst uni students. Perhaps something we should discuss, guys? So, yes, today's my first day, I plan on going running shortly before the sun goes down as it's then not too warm (I'm sure daven will laugh at high temperature being a factor, if he reads this), and the lighting is the coolest. |
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HUSTLAAAAA!! =( So basically, I'm easily starting in last place. Kiwi, is a skinny white kid that has ran in a few marathons previously. BooG is a terrorist that has already begun training for jihad via regular sessions with a personal trainer. And then there is me... A fat white kid (haz da glasses), that hasn't really ran since senior year of HS about 4 years ago. So..... I have my work cut out for me. |
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That should make you the most motivated then. Being the underdog always gets me going more than when I think its in the bag. You have the most to gain (lose ) in this case, so get your ass in gear.
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Dranger. Side bet that stax looks sexiest in his after picture after this prop? 
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[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
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It's prob 60-70 miles away I estimate. The time fluctuates. Sometimes I leave as early as 6am, and get there at 7:15, then 10 min walk to class. Sometimes I don't leave till 6:30 and barely make class. But it's def not longer than a 1 hour drive, and traffic/parking sure seems like it picks up if I leave at 6:30 rather than 6am. It's definitely not as enjoyable as past semesters when I lived in an apartment 5 mins away. But that wasn't rent-free either, so.... |
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Just went and picked up about $100 in groceries. Grabbed some whey protein powder (chocolate), chicken breasts, salmon, tuna, tilapia (cheap shit), broccoli, cauliflower, apples, salad stuff, crystal light, eggs, and some more stuff. Looking forward to tomorrow. Thing I'm least excited about is all the effing cooking. I HATE COOKING! Also, couldn't find a solid iphone armband at walmart (only place open). I think I'll give the AT&T store a try tomorrow maybe. |
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Ummm.. I don't think crystal light is that bad, but could be wrong. I'll def be drinking a shitload of water, but meh, it gets quite boring. Either way it's 8:30, and I just got up at 8:00am. Time for Breakfast, then gonna wait a little while before doing the circuit training, then Protein powder. What the hell else is good to eat for breakfast besides eggs (hard boiled)? |
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Cereals w/o corn syrup, usually from the organic section at your grocery store. Cottage cheese (YUCK) Fruit Salads Throwing fruit in anything makes it bearable, even if it is really bland. I like to eat oatmeal, bagel or english muffin, even though the 2nd two aren't that great because I burn a shit ton of calories and need the extra carbs in the morning to get me going. Just watch your cereals for corn syrup, about 95% of cereals have corn syrup (basically any cereal that has any strong sugary taste). Corn syrup is an enemy. Hope this helps. |
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I just did the cabbage diet. Cardio wasn't doing much for me weight-wise. I was getting healthier, but only losing about 3 pounds/month going 4 times/week. Out of my 4 sessions I would do 1 lifting session (hit the 8 major muscle groups), 1 5k run, 1 alternating running and lifting, then 1 alternating treadmill eliptical and bike. The cabbage diet sux like no other, but I'll tell you what - dropped 10 lbs in 11 days EZ, no exercise. Then I blended off of that into a hybrid cabbage diet/atkins. It has really changed my tastes and hunger cravings. In total I've gone from 246 to 211 over several months. My goal is to get under 200, I should reach it by the summer. Of all that, the one thing I'd like to share with you guys healthwise is to pick some food that's really good for you to eat, and stop thinking traditionally about them. For breakfast I often now just eat one thing. I'll cook up a plate of eggs (nothing else), or cut up 2 kiwis, or a bowl of strawberries or a cucumber. Yeah at first it's wierd to think "I'm going to eat a whole cucumber with nothing else with it?" But you know what? I like 'em and they're healthy and all that other crap I'd normally eat was making me 246, so I'll give it a whirl. |
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#1 The bluff call #2 The Drawing-Dead Value Bet __________________________________________________ _____________ "What we do in life echoes in eternity." Maximus Decimus Meridius - Gladiator
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Day one is in the books for me. I had to extend my jog a little bit to get the full thirty minutes in...but I did it. Five days per week for twelve weeks is going to be interesting. It's also gonna get ugly when the time is extended to an hour per day. I'm sure there won't be a lot of money transferring hands during the first four weeks. The last eight weeks is where it's going to get ugly. This prop should be good because it'll force me to jog for longer periods of time as the weeks go by. It would be nice to be able to run continuously for three miles. I'd really like to participate in a 5K and I'll make that a goal by the end of the twelve weeks. Cliffs: Prepare to donate to some charity in twelve weeks when I run my 5K. |
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Well Shit! Today was a good day. Wasn't as good as I hoped, but there is no disappointment here. Today Woke up at 8am (big improvement over 11am) Breakfast - 4 hard boiled eggs Protein Shake with water Lunch - 2 Salmon Fillets + Steamed Broccoli/Cauliflower/Carrots Weightlifting Circuit - 12/10/8/6/12 on Bench, Pulldown bar, & curls Forgot about bent over rows. Will put them in Friday. Note: I'm amazed at how much weaker I am than last time I worked out. Hopefully the strength will come back soon. Protein Shake with milk [mmmm way better than water] I remembered what I used to do in HS with my protein shakes. I used to put milk/ice/protein power in the 'magic bullet' (blender, not mom's dildo), and make a smoothie type thing. Gonna give that a try soon. Cardio - This was the only thing I didn't do as well as I had hoped really. The minimum time constraint is 30 minutes. Well I exceeded that, and put in 45 mins of cardio. However, my intention was to split 60 seconds of jogging with 90 seconds of walking. But after about the 2nd interval of jogging, my calves & shins were throbbing, and my knees also weren't loving the weight I was bringing down. So I decided I would put in a few extra minutes, and walk (pretty briskly) the rest of the time. Obviously, getting my legs in better shape, and losing a few pounds, is something I intend to work on so jogging doesn't come as painful, but I hope the extra time spent can show that I did have the intention to push myself. Dinner - 1 Salmon Fillet, 1 Tilapia Fillet, more broccoli/Cauliflower/Carrots + bowl of mixed grapes, apple slices, and celery. So that's my day for today. Hope it's up to par, and I intend to improve on it in the following weeks. I'm pretty fucking stoked. My chest is sore, my legs are burning, and I'm still sweating from my walk, but I feel as if this time I can do it. We will see. Also to add, I put in around 3.5k hands at 100nl. This is a huge improvement in volume over the past 3-4 months. SO hopefully that continues as well. Also want to put this in there because this guy is the shit, and he's pretty fucking motivating (imo): YouTube - Shane Koyczan 's Grandma 's Got it Going On And lastly, Dranger put this up in irc, possibly as a joke (idk), but maybe it's just me, but water strangely came from my eye. YouTube - Nick Vujicic |
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"Still sweating from my walk" No more sharing imo. Kthx. |
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| 32 minutes, went for a much easier but faster paced run than yesterday. Also got rained on. Feels much easier than yesterday, which is nice, although could also be because of the run in question. Feels good, man. | |||
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allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Day 2 of this week is in the books. I took Tuesday off, as it was supposed to be the day I go to classes. But I.... uhhh... Skipped classes. Ate really good yesterday. Today, I ate somewhat decently I suppose; however, I did eat 2 hotdogs for dinner, as my family wanted to go out and do a little bonfire deal. Put in another 35ish minutes of cardio, but definitely didn't enjoy it like I did Monday. I'm looking into borrowing a stationary bike from my uncle. If he is using it, then I might look into purchasing one. I really think that the lower impact on my knees/feet would be pretty beneficial to pushing myself further. The past 2 cardios, it was more pain in my legs than breathing that was difficult. Also decided it was about time I got back into studying poker again. So I read about 20 pages of BalugaWhale's Easy Game Book 1, and took some notes. Decided to play 6m for a bit, and will try to finish that book over the weeks to come. |
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As for my update, my personal trainer kicked my ass last night by mixing in heavy weights. It's the first time in forever I've done heavy weights. My body was sore like crazy all of today and I had a headache due to lack of sleep. Long story short, day three will be postponed until tomorrow. This means I will have to squeeze cardio in on Saturday or Sunday before/after work. Bleh. |
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Bit of a late update. So Thursday I actually went to classes, and because of this, I decided thursday was my cheat day for the week. I was too tired/lazy to pack a lunch or protein shakes for the day. So my eating schedule was all messed up. For day 3 (Friday), I wasn't feeling all that great for most of the day (stomach pains). However, after taking a nap, I got up and did my cardio at about the last possible time for the day (11pm at night). Day 3 done. Not looking forward to this weekend without a bike yet, but I'll manage. |
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And it only gets worse... <3 |
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