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| Renton |
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Welcome friends! I am creating this thread to keep track of my upcoming Bonus Whoring escapades and to hopefully get advice from you guys along the way (or just cheer me on for morale boost). My plan is simple, but pretty ambitious. I have been brushing up on my limit skills and am basically going to whore my way through the following sites, four-tabling the low-limit games: Party Poker Empire Poker William Hill Golden Riviera Paradise Poker Poker 333 Aztec Riches Poker Metro Royal Vegas True Poker Bodog Poker HoldemPoker Eurobet BetonBet Absolute Poker Interpoker Purple Lounge Planet Poker Nine Poker Ultimate Bet Doyle's Room Victor Chandler Bayou Poker Classic Poker Gaming Club Noble Poker CD Poker Fair Poker Poker.com Pacific Poker AND Full Tilt... In that order. By my projections, should no severely unfortunate downswings befall me, I should be able to Whore all of the preceding casinos in the space of 13 weeks. Should I maintain a decent winrate (between 1.5-3.0 bb/100), and moving up in limit stakes whenever I have at least 500bb, I have set an ambitious goal of 16000 dollars net profit from this adventure. I am posting this because I would like any ex-whores to give me any tips they have or any casinos with juicy bonuses that I overlooked, as I know I must've missed a few. The subsequent posts by me will be updates to the status of the master plan, and I will post my weekly results. My current bankroll is $583 in Party, which, of course I will be whoring first. I will start tonight, and hopefully clear the Party and Empire bonuses by weeks end. |
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| dj newman |
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| GL Renton, I look forward to see your results. I have only done PP, Emp1re, PS and currently working on Mart1ns Poker(Huge bonus that takes forever to work off at low limits, 825 euros of bonus...over a third of the way there)...save this one for later, if it is still around. | ||
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| Rabid Dog |
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Just a suggestion. Put PokerNow on that list and move it up there with Party and Empire. Its an extremely easy bonus to clear. Also before you sign up at Empire, check and make sure they are offering a signup bonus. I saw on BW where one guy signed up through the BW link and Empire emailed him and said they were not offering any bonuses at the moment. I dont know if this included the signup or the IGM or epassport bonuses. I posted something about it on EasyT's 25nl bonus list. Good luck, hope you clear them all for the max plus. |
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| EasyT |
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Key: = Great move. Easily clearable 4-Table Low Limit = Ok move. It's going to take a little longer = Bad Move. Horrendous at low limits/ god aweful site. = Unbelievable, but there are site's I haven't played/researched = REQUIRES NL50 or NL100 for bonus.Party Poker Empire Poker William Hill Golden Riviera Paradise Poker Poker 333 Aztec Riches Poker Metro Royal Vegas True Poker Bodog Poker HoldemPoker Eurobet BetonBet Absolute Poker Interpoker Purple Lounge Planet Poker Nine Poker Ultimate Bet Doyle's Room Victor Chandler Bayou Poker Classic Poker Gaming Club Noble Poker CD Poker Fair Poker Poker.com Pacific Poker You missed: PokerNOW (And some others from my NL25 BonusGuide) You have some things on there that I'm sure I woulda done if they were good deals. If I haven't done it, there must be a reason (better bonuses out there to do). So all the 's are IMO. Serously lofty goal, bro.  Go! Go! Go! Go! I'm curious to see other's opinions. EasyT |
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| midas06 |
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| My opinion is that you're going to be borderline suicidal after trying to go through that list in 13 weeks. Some of those bonuses clear sloooooooooooooooow. Especially at the stakes you're going to be playing. | ||
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I love EasyT's smiley face key. Nice work. Off the top of my head, let me recategorize them as I view them... Party Poker, Empire Poker (PokerNow) -- Great system for $25nl, good value bonuses, far more $ than you pay in rake. William Hill, Classic Poker , InterPoker (UKBetting, TotalBet, Littlewoods, Sun) -- all Cryptos with some decent bonuses that mostly clear at $1&$2 tables. A bit more work than I like, unless the required table stakes are smaller. WmHill/Totalbet/UKBetting used to offer decent hourly bonuses, but I heard they were changing the deal. Golden Riviera, Poker Metro, Gaming Club, (Riverbelle, betHOldem, Trident, Spin, wildjacks, Grandbay) -- Primas with easy bonuses -- now we're talking -- may (or may not  ) have trouble doing both GamingClub and Riverbelle. Royal Vegas, (7 sultans, Code, CaptCooks )-- Prima with sneakier clearing terms -- plenty of these Poker 333, Purple Lounge -- Prima with tougher clearing terms, Purple Lounge with a spotty reputation.  Pokerroom Skins - HoldemPoker, Eurobet, BetonBet , Bayou Poker -- if you insist on doing these, Betsson has a 7x bonus right now (why kill yourself with 10x or worse?) Paradise Poker - stand alone that rocks -- bonus clears better at 100nl Ultimate Bet - stand alone WITH rocks -- the only people I hear that say nice things are people that start here. FullTilt -- stand alone WITH rocks -- the only people I hear that say nice things are people that start here. Absolute Poker - The free money seems endless, but I'd rather poke myself in the eye with something sharp. Planet Poker - I hear that, besides the bonus being hard to clear, the poker room is too small to reasonably meet the requirements Doyle's Room, Victor Chandler - two halves of the same network, tribeca. Not bad. The Doyle's side is 100% rakeback contributed-type bonuses. The VC side is 80%. Good fishing, slow bonus. True Poker, Noble Poker, CD Poker, Fair Poker, Poker.com -- All of a kind iPoker. Big Numbers/Hard work -- might as well pitch a tent. Bodog Poker - used to be great. Now so-so bonus. Less than your rake. Nine Poker - action poker, action points, never seems juicy enough to bother, but it is likely my ignorance Pacific Poker - only one table at a time, but you'll get 100% RB on this bonus, and it is faster than Doyle's because they rake you more often  Sometimes you can withdrw before finishing the bonus  Significantly not mentioned --
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I'm a know-it-all.
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| Phantaroth |
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I play at Doyles Room and enjoy it. I easily cleared my 25% bonus. then again, I only depositied 35$ at the time, so it might be harder for you. |
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| Renton |
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thanks for the help people. So far I am right on schedule, and about to clear the IGMpay bonus for Party, and I am up 20 at the 25nl tables |
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| Rabid Dog |
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Ok, I was curious about Empire after reading on BW about them not doing a bonus right now. So I emailed them to find out. My question to them was is there a new sign up or welcome bonus for new players? Here is there reply. So make sure you check with them before you make a deposit expecting to get a bonus, it might not happen. But that could change by the time you are ready to do Empire. Dear Player, Thank you for contacting us. We would like to inform you that presently, we do not have any promotion running where a bonus can be given but we do come up with many bonuses in the near future and if there is any bonus which is exclusively available to you then we would inform you through mail. So we request you to please keep checking your email account for information in this regard. You can also view the "News & Events" section of the website to view the details of the bonuses we offer for that particular month if any. We thank you for your support and cooperation in this regard! Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site! Jimmy Poker Customer Care P.S. This looks like a form letter almost. |
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| r8ed |
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| Once you get up to 100NL, do Martins. You never know when it may go away and it's one you don't want to miss. | ||
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| Renton |
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day two... Good news and bad news today. Bad news first: PartyPoker is not making with the PokerPlayers Alliance %20 bonus. This really sucks, because it puts me behind schedule (I was wanting to clear out party and empire during Week 1). I registered with PPA and they aren't giving me the bonus. Support claims I didn't put in the 10 digit deposit code (bullshit). Good news: I am running great! After a horrific day yesterday of grinding my wheels at 25nl for 3 hours and making 4 bucks , factoring in todays session I am running at 16.35bb/100 for the first 1500 hands since I started this.Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 760.03  EDIT: The PPA bonus was added! Woohoo! |
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| DaNutsInYoEye |
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| Sorry to burst your over ambitious bubble, but you aren't going to make 16K in 13 weeks. I think a 1/3 of that is reasonable, but I'd still be suprised if you did. | ||
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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| Renton |
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heh You'll be kissing these rings in 13 weeks. j/k P.S. I like to shoot for the stars and make it to the moon. If I make 5k then so be it. That would kick ass! |
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| UG |
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| Renton, I hope you can do it. I'm looking forward to your updates. | ||
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| Phantaroth |
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I'd Like to just mention that for some reason Doyles Room has been extremley laggy for me over the last 5 or so days. I believe this is a problem on their end not mine, but you can still give it a try. I got mad and took all my money off their site tho because if they can't fix lag in this amount of time, fuck them bitches.
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| Renton |
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| Ya alot of them I am just gonna deposit, hold my nose, grit and take in until the bonus clears, then I am getting out of dodge. | ||
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day three... (of 91) Another very proactive day of whoring. I cleared the 7x PPA bonus for Party Poker, and ran a clean 12bb/100 5-tabling 25nl for 1000 hands. Now I just gotta take care of the epassporte bonus and its goodbye party poker! However, my cashout is lagging so I am going to go ahead and set some things in motion for Empire so I can get started there concurrently. Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 924.11 Net gain for day: 164.08 |
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| Muxy |
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| Nice man good job. I will be starting this one i can pay some people off and get my Br up there. Currently doign the Boss network 100% 500 raked hands. Easy as shit. | ||
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I'm a know-it-all.
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| Renton |
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day five... (of 91) Had a pretty interesting day today. I began whoring PokerNOW instead of Empire (thanks RabidDog), and it went OK. I put in a two hour session this afternoon fourtabling the 25nl for the welcome bonus, and had a horrible session. I had about 40 pocket pairs and only hit one set (and won like two bucks). The session ended down like 50 bucks. I felt pretty crappy about it and went and got a bite to eat somewhere and came back to it refreshed and ready for revenge. A word to the wise: don't ever play poker on an empty stomach. I put in another two hour session to finish up the bonus, and in the first hour I managed to win my two buyins back with a little interest. I was about to call it quits, having cleared the 100 dollar bonus and having a generally breakeven day at the tables (like 1.5bb/100), and then I just happened to stack a couple of people right before I cut out Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 1055.15 Net gain for day: 131.04 Woohoo! My goal of 1k for week one, reached two days early! |
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| Rabid Dog |
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Congratulations. Wanna loan me $1055.00, lol kidding of course. But thats what my momma used to always say. She would ask for the whole dollar amount and leave me the change. Of course she was kidding also. Wow, while I was sitting here typing this a spider just dropped down from the ceiling right in front of my eyes. Hope I didnt wake the family up while slapping it between my hands. |
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| Renton |
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ya it seems to be going pretty well. I am, however about to get hit with some serious cashout lag. I have got about 1500 dollars (of my own money, not gambling money) pending in cashouts with Party and PokerNOW, and it don't look like its going to make it back to me for a few days. So I'll probably not be able to whore too much in the next few days : ( |
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| Rabid Dog |
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| Yeah that always sucks. Ive got 3 casino's and one poker room Im waiting to hit my neteller account. But 2 was cashed out yesterday and 2 today. I have almost a zero neteller account till those hit. I should have 6 more casino cashouts if things go well this week. Im hoping to have all my money back into neteller by end of week so I can see where Im at. | ||
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day six... (of 91) In a word: Frustrating. I was on my 'A' game all day and just spun my wheels to no avail. Spent a four hour session on PokerNOW clearing the IGMPay bonus. Only one more bonus and I am done with them. Played another four hour session on party later (just for fun, no bonuses), and it was just horrible. I ran 2.81bb/100 for the 2000 or so hands and it sucked. Had aces cracked by 97off had kings cracked by q7off and every time I flopped a set, I had to fold it to a four card straight or flush on the board (no boat...). Hopefully things will get better. Variance sucks. Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 1183.63 Net gain for day: 128.48 |
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| dj newman |
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| Variance does suck....I have played in 5 home tourneys and 1 casino tourney and have won 1 hand outside of stealing blinds....my friends all think I am full o shit...which I think is ironic...I just hope I heat up a little in Vegas. Now this is pretty minor variance...just can't wait for the upswing. | ||
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day 9... (of 91) Another good news and bad news day. *sigh* Cashout lag is killing me. I have got two 500 dollar cashouts that have been in limbo for days (damn IGMPay!) so I have just been grinding it out at 25nl. And thats where the good news comes in. After the last several thousand hands of banging my head against the rigged Party Poker wall, I have finally pulled out of this downswing. I ran ridiculously good (25bb/100) for three hours of fivetabling. I have nearly tripled my original bankroll in the last 8 days Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 1326.46 Net gain for day: 106.71 |
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| r8ed |
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| Nice Job Renton! How about separating profits and bonus money. It would be good to see how much of your bankroll comes from bonuses. I have a crude excel spreadsheet I just started to keep track of where my money is what the status is and bonus vs. profit. You'll need something similar once you do the B2Bs because they have 1o/14/30 day wait periods on bonus money. I can send the spreadsheet to anyone who wants it. It's very crude but does the job. EasyT has one too but it has much more than I need. | ||
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| EasyT |
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Yes, I have a spreadsheet too, which I'm happy to share. Mine started out like R8ed's, I'm sure. But now with $9,000 spread across 43 accounts, it looks daunting. But it's not really. It does the same thing that it always did, now it just sums more columns. Based on the list of sites you're planing to knock down, you oughta have something like this. Email me if you want mine. EasyT |
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| Hey Renton, just wanted to tell you thanks on giving me some of that bonus whoring info I was asking about. I dunno if it's been posted anywhere else or you were aware (I'm sure it is, just saw it today when I logged on though), that PokerStars is doing a 20% deposit bonus up to $600, but it ends on Monday. Dunno if you'd be able to get in on that, but I figured it might be some helpful info for ya... | ||
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| biondino |
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| Really dumb question I'm sure, but you are signing up for rakeback on all the sites that offer it, aren't you? I'd love to refer you to the rakeback provider I use if you're interested - they've been very good so far and offer pretty sweet rates. PM me if you'd like. | ||
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Stars is a 5x bonus which is nice. But the rake has to reach $1.00 to earn one FPP. Is that playable at 25NL? I havent played at Stars since probably last Oct, but a 5x bonus would bring me back probably. As long as its playable at 25NL or 50NL. I'm thinking a $1.00 rake would have to be played at the 100NL or higher to be productive. Someone correct me if Im wrong. edit: I said pot has to reach $1.00. Its rake has to reach $1.00, fixed it. |
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Well I believe you get a FPP on Stars when the pot reaches...hmm oh here's the page. ------------------------------ 1. Earn FPPs for cash game play One (1) Frequent Player Point (FPP) is awarded for playing a hand in which the rake reaches: $0.50 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $0.50/$1.00 and lower $0.75 for fixed limit poker games with stakes $1/$2 $1.00 for pot limit poker games no limit poker games fixed limit poker games with stakes $2/$4 and higher EDIT: Late on the rake postage, my bad. |
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| Renton |
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| don't you get fractions of a point for hands where the rake is lower? In that case you'd just need to play 600 bucks worth of rake, (which would still suck, thats like 20000 hands at 25nl just to get 120 bux). | ||
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| Rabid Dog |
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Hey, if you quad table 50NL, is that like playing one table at 200NL? Kidding of course
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day 14... (of 91) I had a poker free weekend, and started on the new Party reload bonus on sunday. I nearly finished clearing the first level of it today. In other news I opened a Pacific account and got that one rolling. Hopefully I will be able to scam them out of the 100 bonus and not even have to play the full number of hands. I am gonna wait a few days to try this, so as not to be conspicuous. Today I took my first crack at the Party NL50 tables, with success. I ran a cool 21.38ptbb/100 for 880 hands, making over 50 bucks an hour Looks like this weeks gonna be good. I expect to be past 2k by friday. Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 1646.99 Net gain for day: 188.77 Total whored to date: 500.00 Total grinded to date: 585.11 |
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day 15... (of 91) Quote:
Today was the most profitable single day of my Whoring Adventure thus far. I cleared the first level of the Party reload bonus quadtabling NL50, and I ran super-good. In 1.25 hours (344 hands) I netted $175! Running good is well... good. I decided to take the rest of the evening off since I did so well. Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 2023.16 Net gain for day: 376.17 Total whored to date: 700.00 Total grinded to date: 761.28 |
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Renton's Whoring Adventure Day 21... (of 91) I had a particularly stale weekend. After my massive upswing at 5onl, I have hit a downswing and my winrate is down to 9.05bb/100 over 6.5k hands. Thanks to bonuses, however, I have still increased my BR significantly since the last update. I conquered the 3 level party reload Bonus for a sweet 300 bucks and grinded out a few more dollars on top of that. I cashed out completely from Party and Pacific (gave up on that Bonus) and deposited $750 into both Paradise and JetSet. Paradise seems ok. I will probably be done that Bonus by Thursday. JetSet's Bonus will probably take me at least a week, unfortunately. JetSet sucks, there weren't any 50nl tables for some reason when I logged on tonight (xcept for 6max but haven't had too much experience with). I played a few hands of 25nl on two tables of JetSet while simultaneously playing two 50nl tables on Paradise. I rocketed up 30 bucks on the JetSet tables (those players are dumber than a second coat of paint), and I ran a very short up one dollar session at Paradise (ran into some good hands, didn't have a set paid off, etc.). I don't know if anyone reads these posts or gets any humor/encouragement out of them, but they really help my confidence and keep me going, so thanks either way I guess. Also, I am going to add an excel graph of my running BR to the first post in this thread. Check it out. Starting BR: 583.00 Current BR: 2,298.54 Net gain since last post: +275.38 Total whored to date: +800.00 Total grinded to date: +936.66 |
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| Rabid Dog |
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| Bankrolls looking good. Keep up the good work. | ||
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This is post is pretty inspirational. Do u mind me asking how old are you...how much time you spend on poker? I just learned poker this yr, graduated highschool lasst year, and am doing really good., i plan on paying half my way through school pokering. But am always looking for storiess to motivate me. heh. |
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gl Renton! Good to see your plan, having goals is crucial to building and keeping a BR I think. btw hope u managed to sign up for the b2b 5x worth 400e, if not check into it (not sure if its dead or alive now) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...953&highlight= this is an essential bonus. I think a vital characteristic of a winning player/plan is being realistic... and the only fault I can find in your plan is you may not of spared any time off from playing, either from short holidays, weekends away, getting ill, or simply burnout. For me its ultra hard to play 35-40 hrs a week for 4 weeks straight, let alone 12 weeks? I for one burnout really quite easily and have to take 3-5 days off playing maybe once a month or so.. so I can come back re-freshed and clear headed Something I noticed since I started whoring at the beginning of January was I focused more and more on grinding and clearing the bonuses.. until I was 10 tabling 8max NL just to finish a big bonus... This becomes such a grind and I realised my ultimate goal isnt to grind out a bonus, but to play poker and progress, enjoy, learn and study and to improve my game. This should be my biggest priority (and now is) but had gotten shaded into the background. ..Just a little warning
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Experimenting - 200NL 5max.
"They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?" Waking life
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The reason I set this whole thing up is because I intend to go to architecture school full time this fall, and since the school schedule is going to suck terribly, I am going to have to quit my full time job. Unlike many lucky others, I don't have parents that deposit 2k into my bank account every month for bills. I actually have to loan THEM money on occasion. So essentially I intend on "going pro" during school this year, since I won't be able to hold a day job. Wow that sounds so dumb. I really mean "going pro" in the absolute most stripped of dignity sense. I intend on pulling a few hundred a week to pay my bills, ok? EDIT: BTW Rox can I pull the money out of the account during the bonus clear period for that B2B bonus. Like, I mean can I fulfill all the raked hand requirements for the bonus and then pull out my money before the 30 days clear? |
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you sure can, it deffinatly doesnt kill your bonus, youll be paid after 30 days from deposit depending on how many VIPS youve collected (it isnt all or nothing, so you could say just earn 1.1k vips and recieve 220e bonus). However I think they have a wierd rule whereby you can only cashout 'for free' once a month? man, im pretty amazed your working a FT job, college and 20 hrs a week poker! wow. When I finally get my ft job soon.. I was hoping to play 15hours a week.. but I no doubt I'll crank out about 20 aswell thinking about it.. when im working ft i have a bigger drive to play poker when I get the chance
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Experimenting - 200NL 5max.
"They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?" Waking life
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| wait, so if i do that b2b bonus thing, say i deposit 400 bucks and get 400 bucks for bonus? and i can play, say if i win around 100 bucks, i can cash out the initial 400 and play with that 100 i won toclear the bonus? | ||
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