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BigPapi
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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yeah, but when you dont want to waste another 30 mins, you'll waste them anyway when you're just lying in bed thinking about hands. I know what you mean when you're just grinding till late, but the next day you'll feel even worse after work, so it will effect your play even more (at least with me it does), so it's very important to keep to your schedule. It's off course easier said then done, but I usually try and put in some standard sessions during weekdays and then have a big one on friday night and some more during weekends if I can. It's all about finding a balance between work/sleep/poker and relaxing/having fun
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
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Oh and another thing I want to work on is my out of control non-showdown winnings.
My non-showdown winnings are massive this month. Probably like 25k or more, and my showdown winnings are down like 34ishk. Clearly there's a problem here!
I'm like some anomaly on FTR, cause every graph I see has huge blue line and zeroish red or huge blue and negative red. If I can potentially find some balance between my lines I think I'd be doing pretty well.
My biggest leak right now is 3betting pairs/marginal hands and jamming over 4bets. 20% equity preflop is a good way to kill your blue line, that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
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Alex and I are both on solid >17k downswings right now.
We instated a propbet to end the madness
1k hands today.. whatever limits.. ship the other person $200 if they are in the green at the end. $100 if EV is green but real monies is in the red.
Hopefully we both break even from this bet.
Hopefully it's not from both of us losing more.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
Posts: 4,240
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Sigh that sucks but glglglglglglglglgl to both. Update us!
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Alexos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montreal
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obv i won the propbet, shippp! wheres ma moneyyy?
we need more of those, i think we both played better because of it
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Nine to five is how to survive - I ain't trying to survive / I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot //
Can offer RB deals on most sites, PM me.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
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Originally Posted by Alexos
obv i won the propbet, shippp! wheres ma moneyyy?
we need more of those, i think we both played better because of it
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oh man... so rigged.
So I ended up losing the propbet. Stacked off once with AA and once with JJ.. so I was down around 700ish after 1k hands. That was the "end of bet" mark.. so he won. Figures 100 hands later I get back into the green!
But I agree, I played INFINITELY better during that propbet. Completely solid, and very aware and conscious of not being stupid and spewing since I had to be good by 1k hands.
I'd be willing to do this bet any day we both know we'll play 1k hands.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
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Soo things are goin' bad.. reallll bad. This is the first time in a long time I've been legitimately frustrated in a while, and it's not only cause I'm downswinging. But usually when I downswing, it's cause I feel like I'm playing bad, or like an idiot, and at least during those times I feel like that's in my control.
But the last 3 weeks have been brutal. Around 37 buyin downswing, and a lot of it I've felt has been completely out of my control. The statement is true "you will run worse than you've ever thought possible".. and I'm in that mode right now. Not only through EV, but also just losing with cooler hands that I know I need to be stacking off with, or having horrible turn/river cards come that kill my action etc. Pretty much all forms of running bad resulting in this lovely graph below.
The result of me running bad has been the destruction of my stars roll from $36k to around $9k right now... going from 5/10 to 2/4 in the matter of 17k hands.
I'd rather not re-deposit out of money I've already withdrawn, so I guess I'll just go into rebuild mode.
Made a propbet with alex that I could run 5ptbb at 2/4 over the next 20k hands, so I'm starting that now. This is my first downswing >$20k where I've legitimately felt I've been playing ok for the most part, and am mostly at the hands of lady variance. Hopefully she turns soon!
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
Posts: 4,240
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 sorry man. Is that your whole poker roll or do you still play at other sites? Let's talk/sweat/breathe poker the next few weeks. Much love griff I truly have full confidence in you that things will get better...much better.
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ballarat, Australia
Posts: 5,842
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But I agree, I played INFINITELY better during that propbet. Completely solid, and very aware and conscious of not being stupid and spewing since I had to be good by 1k hands.
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Should be obvious, but this is very telling. It suggests you can play a lot better than you have been if you'd only focus more. You need to find a way to play like that all of the time.
Fwiw I've basically quit playing before bed. I just cant seem to focus at that time of day. I think I do, then I review later and wonder wtf I was doing. Then since I played bad of course that plays on my mind in bed. Its just safer for me now to not play than to play nights.
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Just playing to improve.
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yeah the hardcore fast downswings are brutal where in a few thousand hands you're like wtf happened I just got coolered/bad beat 10 times in a row
long downswings just generally end up being break-even stretches and don't really destroy your BR
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donkbee
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WELP
Join Date: May 2005
Location: so close but so far
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That's just brutal ... I hope it turns around for you soon.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,836
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I had a quote that was on my desktop for a long time back when I turned things areound after I discovered Laggyness. it read
"Squeeze them like a vise, Don't smash them like a hammer". I was making way too many plays that were folding out hands I beat.
There is no way all those non showdown wins are vs hands better than yours unless your playing like 55/45. You are not finding times to fold when guys are playing you. I think that the opponents have you pegged as the aggressor that will fire barrels and let you put money in in spots where you will bet. You need to find a street to stop letting them get value from made hands since that's where it is going wrong the most.
What is your went to showdown, won $ at showdown and won when seeing the flop stats and how do they stack up vs other PS regs on this site?
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ballarat, Australia
Posts: 5,842
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Been thinking about this nighttime playing thing. Do you have a routine? Likely you're just a bit mentally wrecked after your full days work. Maybe thinking of something to refresh yourself before you start playing. Just take a shower, or maybe go for a jog first then shower, something like that?
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Just playing to improve.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
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Thanks for the support guys!
Jyms - A lot of my redline is from calling down too much (ie: all the spots I lose in, end up going to showdown) and from value betting thinly on the river w hen checked to (so hands that could goto showdown, end up being non-showdown losses). The only spewfest part of it (which is still big) is 5bet jamming light pre (which results in taking down some 4bet bluffs, but kills my showdown numbers when called).
Bjsaust - I started working a month or so ago at the hospital I did my masters at. Ever since then, I've been working all day, so its pushed all my playing time to the evening. I hadn't been in evening playing mode for a long time (been grinding in the day mostly) so that's for sure potentially a cause of that.
Played 2/4 the last few days and things continued to be ridiculous. I've dropped down to 4 tables as well, to slow the madness as well. Had the gf here the last couple days, and she's been enforcing it, and yelling at me anytime she looked over and saw more than 4 tables! so that helps  Too bad she's not always here to do that!
Downswing ran to around $30k, and I played a super quick session after yesterday and won two buyins in 50 hands and just booked it, to actually have a winning session. Think thats important mentally, even though hardly counts as a session. Played another short session after that, and booked another 2, so a slow grind back up.
Heeere we go, time for a recovery!
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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Robb
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,072
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glgl grif
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,836
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Yea, wa talked a bit about the redline/blue line madness. All in all, it's still about the green line. My worries for me come when my lines start to drop steady, not with any upswings, it usually points to a spew problem.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
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Just finished a propbet wtih alex for 20k hands. He bet me earlier this month that I couldn't run 5ptbb/100 over 20k hands at 2/4. At the time I stupidly didn't realize this meant 10bb/100.. stupid ptbb vs bb. But whateves, just finished my 20k hands today at around 5.8ptbb/100. Had a little downswing today too running mega bad which made it closer, otherwise I was killing it. So ship the monies!
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
Posts: 4,240
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Ship dude! And wtf at complaining about running bad at the end!
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
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Ship dude! And wtf at complaining about running bad at the end!
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haha it made it clooose! I woulda tilted if I ran bad and lost enough to lose the prop haha.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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Alexos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montreal
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thats 39 hands too many, u LOSE BIATCH
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Nine to five is how to survive - I ain't trying to survive / I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot //
Can offer RB deals on most sites, PM me.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,836
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thats 39 hands too many, u LOSE BIATCH
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He was doing his best to lose the bet. About 18 more looks like he would have lost
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,463
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thanks a bunch for the rail last night. it really helped me to talk through some things as well as just being a lot of fun having a friend there with me during a shitty run.
now let s add some run good to the play good imo.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Alexos
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montreal
Posts: 2,766
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Rejuvenate this blog when you'll be jobless in 4 days, yes?
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Nine to five is how to survive - I ain't trying to survive / I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot //
Can offer RB deals on most sites, PM me.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,836
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Agree.
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griffey24
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12-02-2009, 03:08 PM
Post subject: Re: Operation: My red line is bigger than yours
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#125 (permalink)
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto'ish
Posts: 4,611
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haha yaaah I should rejuvenate. Haven't posted in a while.
This was the first post of this blog:
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Goals for this year:
-200k (or 300k) in 2009 (and consequently, call some sort of tax lawyer and figure out this whole grey area of paying taxes in Canada)
-I'm sick of the Raptors games not being on cable, so I need to get raptorsTV
-Along those lines, I need a new flat screen tv
-I'd like to go to the gym on average 3 times a week (and potentially gain like 15-20 lbs of muscle)
-Perhaps most importantly: Finish writing my thesis and defend my masters, so I can get on with things
-Once I'm done school, travel a lottt (which may hinder the monetary goals but we'll see)
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In terms of the goals outlined, this year has been both very good and very meh.
The biggest accomplishment was finishing my thesis/masters. I'm pretty happy about that, but that consequently sucked out a lot of playing time for the year. Probably the lowest hand volume in several yrs.
The monetary goals are waaaay off. The move from interpoker to stars has been rocky and swingy, and not having the interpoker bonuses/rakeback to fall back on in rough times sucks pretty hard. I'm hoping to close out this month strong (~$20k) and end the year at a reasonable $75kish. Not near my goal, but acceptable given that I've been working full time this yr on school/work.
I got raptorstv and TSN2 a few weeks ago, so I can finally watch most/all the raptors games! So that's goood.
I spoke to a tax lawyer, though it wasn't overly conclusive.
I haven't done the travelling that I wanted to do yet, but I'm going to Sri Lanka for two weeks in Dec, so that should be good!
And last but not least, gym 3 times a week is mega faillll. But I bought a set of these:
http://www.powerblock.com/Sport5.0.htm
Which have been pretty useful while I'm slacking on actually GOING to the gym.
Sooo yah.. most of the goals are quasi accomplished. Let's finish this yr strongggg.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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