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Old 12-04-2009, 05:42 PM #251 (permalink)  
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 Not much more you can do than what you've outlined.

Just curious, though, have you planned out all the steps to play on FullTilt in terms of stakes to play, number of tables, and time to clear the bonus? Do you know if the games are softer or harder? The reason I ask is that I am in a similar situation about to try deposit for the first time and just today in fact, I asked about all those details. If you're staying @ $10NL, it may be hard to clear. In fact, it might be hard @ $25NL for that matter. I'm already sweating whatever time it will take @ $100NL or $50NL.

Anyway, congratulations either way on the being close to $25NL. It looks like your game has come a long way and you stuck with it during the tough times.

If you'd rather not clutter your operation with a discussion of Full Tilt bonus clearing, feel free to go to the post I started.
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:21 PM #252 (permalink)  
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Not much more you can do than what you've outlined.

Just curious, though, have you planned out all the steps to play on FullTilt in terms of stakes to play, number of tables, and time to clear the bonus? Do you know if the games are softer or harder? The reason I ask is that I am in a similar situation about to try deposit for the first time and just today in fact, I asked about all those details. If you're staying @ $10NL, it may be hard to clear. In fact, it might be hard @ $25NL for that matter. I'm already sweating whatever time it will take @ $100NL or $50NL.

Anyway, congratulations either way on the being close to $25NL. It looks like your game has come a long way and you stuck with it during the tough times.

If you'd rather not clutter your operation with a discussion of Full Tilt bonus clearing, feel free to go to the post I started.
I plan to play 10NL until my BR is at least at $750. Plus this will give me a chance to get used to playing on FTP. Then I wil take a full shot at 25NL. I will drop back down to 10NL at $350. That will give me >16 BIs to work with. I plan to remain at FTP until I clear the bonus and then move back to PS. I dont know how long it will take but I expect it to take a while. If they don't have a bonus at PS by the time I clear the FTP bonus then I will wait for one.

I'm definitely not in any hurry for anything. Getting impatient has hindered my progress in the past. I tried to keep up with m2m and dranger and spewed like hell.

I don't know anything about FTP but I'm sure it has the same ratio of bad players as PS. I'll be very selective on tables and go from there.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:05 PM #253 (permalink)  
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 I agree that it's good not to be in a hurry, but don't you worry that you may not give yourself a reasonable opportunity to clear it because it must be cleared in 120 days and whatever isn't gets lost?
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:58 PM #254 (permalink)  
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I agree that it's good not to be in a hurry, but don't you worry that you may not give yourself a reasonable opportunity to clear it because it must be cleared in 120 days and whatever isn't gets lost?
I play 10NL hands with avg pot of >$1. Assume all pots are $1
Rake at FTP is $0.15/dollar at 10NL with no rake if there's no flop
Bonus is one point/(dollar of rake)
It will take 6.6 hands for every dollar of rake.
Bonus is $0.06/point and you get one point per dollar of rake
So I get $0.06/(dollar of rake)
So every 6.6 hands I get $0.06 or 110 hands/dollar
It will take me 66k hands to get my $600 bonus at FTP. I have 4 months to play 66k hands or 16,500 hands per month. If only half the hands see a flop then I need 33k hands per month. That's why table selection is so critical.

At 25NL I only need 5 hands per dollar of rake so I need 83 hands per dollar. So I'll need about 50k hands

At 50NL rake is $1/dollar with max at $3 so for every $3 raked pot you get $0.18 and you will only need 3333 hands to get your $600.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:13 AM #255 (permalink)  
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So I got tired of playing with playmoney at FTP so I deposited $40 at PS tonight and played some 5NL for awhile.

Up 7.5 BIs. Whatever's left in the PS account after I get my PS check, I'll withdraw it and deposit it to FTP. I may leave some there so I can play in the FTR300 on PS when it comes up again.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:48 AM #256 (permalink)  
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Congrats on the good month man, go pwn bitches at FTP, see you back at stars sometime.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:23 AM #257 (permalink)  
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I play 10NL hands with avg pot of >$1.
remember that only the raked pot is relevant. I;m not sure if your average is contested or not, e.g. if I complete the sb and you check we go to the flop with$0.20, then i lead out for $0.80 and you fold. Is this a 20cent or $1 pot? regardless, the rake is only on the 20cents.

Also, i've just moved down to 10nl and I'm 12-15 tabling on FT, pm me your screen-name. I'm davenigma. Yesterday I decided to donk around playing high vpip/station burning money. Today the grind has started. Come to FR and play some hands, or I'll hunt you out at 6-max
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
 
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:30 PM #258 (permalink)  
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I play 10NL hands with avg pot of >$1.
remember that only the raked pot is relevant. I;m not sure if your average is contested or not, e.g. if I complete the sb and you check we go to the flop with$0.20, then i lead out for $0.80 and you fold. Is this a 20cent or $1 pot? regardless, the rake is only on the 20cents.

Also, i've just moved down to 10nl and I'm 12-15 tabling on FT, pm me your screen-name. I'm davenigma. Yesterday I decided to donk around playing high vpip/station burning money. Today the grind has started. Come to FR and play some hands, or I'll hunt you out at 6-max
When I table select I choose tables with and average pot of >$1. That's where I came up with this number. I guess I'm assuming this will not change when I'm at the table.

Still waiting for my PS check to arrive so I can deposit it to FTP. Looks like max deposit is $600 so I'll have to make 2 deposits. One for $600 and one for $100 plus my profits playing 5NL at PS while waiting (currently at $60).
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:20 PM #259 (permalink)  
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 I don't know if you know or how you're planning to deposit, but just for your awareness, if you are using eChecks for the first time on FullTilt, you can only do a MAX $100 deposit initially and must wait 7 days for it to clear with no issues before you can do more. Fortunately, the 2nd deposit will count towards your full $600 deposit, however, the clock to clear the bonus starts ticking as soon as you deposit - they don't give you an extra 7 days or additional 120 days after the 2nd deposit. It's just another piece of the puzzle to keep in mind while you're doing this. Unless you have other deposit methods or some connections to do player cash transfers, you'll probably end up playing $10NL or gambling with 4 buy-ins @ $25NL for a week until you can pad the roll. Good luck.
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I don't know if you know or how you're planning to deposit, but just for your awareness, if you are using eChecks for the first time on FullTilt, you can only do a MAX $100 deposit initially and must wait 7 days for it to clear with no issues before you can do more. Fortunately, the 2nd deposit will count towards your full $600 deposit, however, the clock to clear the bonus starts ticking as soon as you deposit - they don't give you an extra 7 days or additional 120 days after the 2nd deposit. ...
This I did not know. I've sent FTP and email regarding this. I was planning on doing the echeck thing but may have to do the debit card thing if that's faster.
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 Hrm, good luck with the debit card but I would be REALLY surprised if you could get any debit card to work from the United States. BUT, I am rooting for you and if you are able to get one to work, let us know the details of the card like bank, issuer, or whatever pertinent details so we can all get one
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Like 2 weeks ago i used my debit visa card for a deposit worked fast and easy. GL
 
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:34 PM #263 (permalink)  
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Like 2 weeks ago i used my debit visa card for a deposit worked fast and easy. GL
I think I'll try the echeck first to see if there is a first deposit limit. According to Jason there is. Then I'll try the debit card. Hopefully one of these will allow me to deposit the full amount.

Now if PS would send me my effin check
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Finally got the PS check after 11 days. I found out that if you do not deposit via echeck for 6 months then you have no choice but a paper check to cashout.

Decided to try using visa to make deposit at FTP as it's not limited on first deposit like echeck is. Took about 10 minutes to get approved. So FTP BR is at $600. I still have $100 to deposit whenever that's allowed. I also have $100 on PS that I will withdraw to add to the FTP BR.

Played about 50 hands at 10NL to get HEM setup correctly then dived into 25NL with 2 tables. When I got confortable I added 2 more tables. I was up 2.5BIs at one point then spewed a bit with TP and ended up one BI for the session. Made about $8 towards the bonus and the rakeback will be nice once it starts rolling in. I'll probably play 3 tables til I get more confortable at FTP.

FTP does not offer as many good tables at PS but there are still plenty to chose from. The waiting lists for the really good tables are much longer. I'm going to play 25NL essentially the same way I played 10NL except for playing 3 tables. I have noticed more 3betting already.

I believe this OP is over and I'll probably start another one for 25NL and beyond. Thanks for all the help from everyone at FTR. Thanks especially to Jason who kept reminding me constantly about BRM and making think.

Hopefully I can stay at 25NL but if the BR gets below about $450 I WILL drop back down to 10NL. That will give me 14 BIs.
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