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Old 10-16-2007, 05:18 AM     Post subject: Operation Get Better #1 (permalink)  
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 Simple as that, just get better at poker and I believe the BR will increase accordingly. I love learning the game so I don't think this should be too much of a problem but I can't keep fucking my BR up (just dropped 3 buyins on one single hand alone). I have to set some rules for myself. It's 1 am so I am probably just rambling and will think of other stuff later but here are my rules so far:
1. Stop playing in games I cannot afford to play. Most people immediately think of playing higher limits than my BR allows. Well, I tend to love playing some of the higher stakes guys at my level. Sure it's fun, but it is obviously hurting my struggle to move up to 50nl. Now, I may play with one at times, but making sure to stay away from them.
2. After each session, look over at least my big pot hands. See what I did poorly or what I did very well.
3. Talk to others about the game more and argue with them (yay, who wants to talk to the one and only kmizzle?)
4. Think about the game and argue with myself until I can prove what the most +ev play is.
5. Implement findings from rules 3 and 4.
6. Play a certain amount of hands a month or week.
7. Start taking shots when I feel I am ready (according to BR as well as how well I have been playing).
8. Watch more videos (CR, FTR, GS, etc.).

Meh. There has to be more but like I said I am tired and have an 8 am class tomorrow. Probably go to my classes, take a nap and then play some poker. Oh, and no deposits so this BR is all I have. May play occasional donkaments but basically everything should be ring. Any questions about my background or anything just post because I don't feel like writing it now sorry.

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Old 10-17-2007, 04:26 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Only got to play 561 hands. Have an exam tomorrow then Thurs and Fri. off so I should be able to play a lot. Will play in the Gauntlet as well. Anyways, I ran 18/13 for a profit of exactly $32. Not really sure what to think of my play. KK>QQ allin pre but also KK<AA allin pre. So if one of those has a suckout then it's either a much better or much worse day. I missed a lot of pots I had a lot of equity in as well so that's a bummer. Hoping tomorrow goes well and I hope I can implement some stuff I am trying to learn and get better at. I was trying to work on my post flop play but I have realized my preflop play needs some good work which will actually set up for easy postflop game. BTW, AK sucks regardless of what anyone tells you. Oh yeah, dumb misclick in a multiway pot added to my deficits which in a way sucks but also allows me to realize I could have been up (a little) more.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:22 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Past 2 days have sucked. Some bad play with some bad beats. Although KK>AA when I hit quads on flop but seriously that is the only suckout I have ever had in my life. That's slightly a lie. Anyways, ran like crap yesterday and dropped half a buyin plus a gauntlet fee. Today I was up about $60 over 500 hands before I really got slapped in the face with stupid play (mainly from my opponents). I tried bluffing some dude that should have definitely worked if it weren't for him not knowing when to fold an overpair. I also bluffed the crap out of a very drawy board in a $5 +.50 SNG but of course he has to call all streets with TPGK. Anyways, here are a few hands:

1.POKERSTARS GAME #12700604866: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 13:32:18 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: verminbecir ($20.45 in chips)
Seat 2: toddanderson ($26.80 in chips)
Seat 3: guillote ($33.40 in chips)
Seat 4: wholin ($19.55 in chips)
Seat 5: pepehaha ($28.90 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.10
guillote: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kc Qc]
wholin: folds
pepehaha: raises $0.75 to $1
verminbecir: folds
toddanderson: raises $2.50 to $3.50
guillote: folds
pepehaha: calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9c Ad]
toddanderson: bets $4
pepehaha: raises $4 to $8
toddanderson: calls $4
*** TURN *** [Ac 9c Ad] [8h]
toddanderson: checks
pepehaha: bets $12.50

Villain in that hand was raising a lot pre so I thought I'd 3bet him. Board def. seemed like a c-bet. Just sucks when he minraises.

2.POKERSTARS GAME #12700079419: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 13:00:54 (ET)
Table 'Prudentia' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: Ant0nioY ($17.85 in chips)
Seat 3: philip26 ($27.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Billionairr ($8.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Feestaap ($27.15 in chips)
Seat 6: JeankeNissan ($23.25 in chips)
Ant0nioY: posts small blind $0.10
philip26: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Tc Th]
Billionairr: calls $0.25
Feestaap: folds
JeankeNissan: folds
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
Ant0nioY: folds
philip26: calls $1
Billionairr: raises $2.50 to $3.75
toddanderson: calls $2.50
philip26: folds
*** FLOP *** [7h 8d 3s]
Billionairr: bets $4.35 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $4.35
*** TURN *** [7h 8d 3s] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [7h 8d 3s 3h] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Billionairr: shows [Kh 8h] (a flush, King high)
toddanderson: mucks hand
Billionairr collected $16.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.55 | Rake $0.85
Board [7h 8d 3s 3h 2h]
Seat 1: toddanderson (button) mucked [Tc Th]
Seat 2: Ant0nioY (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: philip26 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Billionairr showed [Kh 8h] and won ($16.70) with a flush, King high
Seat 5: Feestaap folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: JeankeNissan folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Standard

3.POKERSTARS GAME #12709536452: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 21:39:54 (ET)
Table 'Errai' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: goods2cash ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: Skyward_br ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 4: CPC48382 ($7.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Dylanmann ($29.50 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($24.55 in chips)
goods2cash: posts small blind $0.10
Skyward_br: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ac Ad]
CPC48382: raises $0.75 to $1
Dylanmann: folds
toddanderson: raises $2.50 to $3.50
goods2cash: folds
Skyward_br: folds
CPC48382: raises $3.85 to $7.35 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $3.85
*** FLOP *** [9c 6d 8s]
*** TURN *** [9c 6d 8s] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [9c 6d 8s Qh] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CPC48382: shows [9s 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
toddanderson: mucks hand
CPC48382 collected $14.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.05 | Rake $0.75
Board [9c 6d 8s Qh 7c]
Seat 1: goods2cash (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Skyward_br (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: CPC48382 showed [9s 9d] and won ($14.30) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: Dylanmann folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: toddanderson (button) mucked [Ac Ad]

also standard

POKERSTARS GAME #12700597769: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 13:31:50 (ET)
Table 'Centesima' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Maethi ($6.45 in chips)
Seat 2: pepehaha ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 3: sol1ps ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 4: toddanderson ($26.85 in chips)
Seat 5: neglord ($23.50 in chips)
Seat 6: okpit ($15.55 in chips)
Maethi: posts small blind $0.10
pepehaha: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qs Qh]
sol1ps: folds
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
neglord: folds
okpit: folds
Maethi: raises $5.45 to $6.45 and is all-in
pepehaha: folds
toddanderson: calls $5.45
*** FLOP *** [Ad Kh 6h]
*** TURN *** [Ad Kh 6h] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Ad Kh 6h 5d] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Maethi: shows [Ah Qc] (a pair of Aces)
toddanderson: mucks hand
Maethi collected $12.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.15 | Rake $0.65
Board [Ad Kh 6h 5d 4h]
Seat 1: Maethi (small blind) showed [Ah Qc] and won ($12.50) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: pepehaha (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: sol1ps folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: toddanderson mucked [Qs Qh]
Seat 5: neglord folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: okpit (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

wheeeeeeee

POKERSTARS GAME #12709493458: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 21:37:33 (ET)
Table 'Ellicott III' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: XtraHeat ($25.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Jvschaik ($4.50 in chips)
Seat 3: toddanderson ($25.70 in chips)
Seat 4: modestmilk ($32 in chips)
Seat 5: Stuifje ($31.15 in chips)
Seat 6: Mo11 ($20.60 in chips)
Jvschaik: posts small blind $0.10
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kc Kd]
modestmilk: folds
Stuifje: folds
Mo11: calls $0.25
XtraHeat: folds
Jvschaik: raises $0.25 to $0.50
toddanderson: raises $1.50 to $2
Mo11: calls $1.75
Jvschaik: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 5c Ad]
toddanderson: bets $3
Mo11: raises $3 to $6
toddanderson: folds


POKERSTARS GAME #12700452144: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 13:22:31 (ET)
Table 'Hamburga' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Freisinger ($15.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Invron11 ($14.70 in chips)
Seat 3: toddanderson ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: Lartsa ($13.50 in chips)
Lartsa: posts small blind $0.10
Freisinger: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qc Td]
Invron11: folds
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
Lartsa: calls $0.90
Freisinger: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4s 7h]
Lartsa: checks
toddanderson: bets $2
Lartsa: raises $2 to $4
toddanderson: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Qs 4s 7h] [5d]
Lartsa: bets $3.25
toddanderson: folds

I'm thinking I should def. fold flop to avoid gay situations like that and save money from future bets

POKERSTARS GAME #12709719056: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 21:49:40 (ET)
Table 'Vaisala II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: modestmilk ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 2: kasparov2008 ($24.20 in chips)
Seat 3: SjefvanBuul ($44.60 in chips)
Seat 4: REDHOT65 ($31 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($27.95 in chips)
SjefvanBuul: posts small blind $0.10
REDHOT65: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ad Qc]
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
modestmilk: folds
kasparov2008: folds
SjefvanBuul: folds
REDHOT65: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [4c 2h Qs]
REDHOT65: checks
toddanderson: bets $1.50
REDHOT65: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [4c 2h Qs] [5h]
REDHOT65: bets $6
toddanderson: folds

I don't know what to do with this overbet crap. Later on I found him doing this in other pots which never showed down.


I need some positives so here are some winners:

POKERSTARS GAME #12702380947: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 15:09:52 (ET)
Table 'Transvaalia II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Topmuller83 ($9.45 in chips)
Seat 2: toddanderson ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: NeontheAce ($12.95 in chips)
Seat 4: aasje1985 ($26.55 in chips)
Seat 5: Villainator ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 6: babyface.one ($25.50 in chips)
Topmuller83: posts small blind $0.10
toddanderson: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qc Qd]
NeontheAce: folds
NeontheAce is sitting out
aasje1985: calls $0.25
Villainator: calls $0.25
babyface.one: folds
NeontheAce leaves the table
Topmuller83: calls $0.15
toddanderson: raises $1.50 to $1.75
aasje1985: calls $1.50
Villainator: calls $1.50
Topmuller83: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s 8c Qh]
toddanderson: bets $2
aasje1985: raises $4 to $6
Villainator: folds
toddanderson: raises $7.50 to $13.50
aasje1985: raises $7.50 to $21
toddanderson: raises $2.25 to $23.25 and is all-in
aasje1985: calls $2.25
*** TURN *** [7s 8c Qh] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [7s 8c Qh 4c] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Qc Qd] (three of a kind, Queens)
aasje1985: shows [8d Qs] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
toddanderson collected $49.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52 | Rake $2.55
Board [7s 8c Qh 4c As]
Seat 1: Topmuller83 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: toddanderson (big blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won ($49.45) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 3: NeontheAce folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: aasje1985 showed [8d Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 5: Villainator folded on the Flop
Seat 6: babyface.one (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

POKERSTARS GAME #12700711749: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 13:39:07 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: verminbecir ($21.05 in chips)
Seat 2: toddanderson ($26.80 in chips)
Seat 3: guillote ($32.80 in chips)
Seat 4: wholin ($29.10 in chips)
Seat 5: pepehaha ($35.85 in chips)
Seat 6: DaDonMackey ($25 in chips)
guillote: posts small blind $0.10
wholin: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Ks Kh]
pepehaha: folds
DaDonMackey: folds
verminbecir: folds
toddanderson: raises $0.75 to $1
guillote: raises $2 to $3
wholin: folds
toddanderson: raises $8 to $11
DaDonMackey said, "just fold"
guillote: raises $21.80 to $32.80 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $15.80 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2s 2c 4d]
*** TURN *** [2s 2c 4d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2s 2c 4d Td] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
guillote: shows [Qc Ac] (a pair of Deuces)
toddanderson: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
toddanderson collected $51.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $53.85 | Rake $2.65
Board [2s 2c 4d Td 3s]
Seat 1: verminbecir folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: toddanderson (button) showed [Ks Kh] and won ($51.20) with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 3: guillote (small blind) showed [Qc Ac] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 4: wholin (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: pepehaha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: DaDonMackey folded before Flop (didn't bet)


POKERSTARS GAME #12700555448: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 13:29:09 (ET)
Table 'Arenda II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Erwin B ($21.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Riritkt ($18.85 in chips)
Seat 5: clad59 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Stephan4482 ($17.15 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.10
Erwin B: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Kh Ks]
Riritkt: folds
clad59: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Stephan4482 has timed out
Stephan4482: folds
Stephan4482 is sitting out
Stephan4482 has returned
toddanderson: raises $1.75 to $2.50
Erwin B: folds
clad59: raises $3.75 to $6.25
toddanderson: raises $19 to $25.25 and is all-in
clad59: calls $11 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Ts Kd Kc]
*** TURN *** [Ts Kd Kc] [5h]
toddanderson said, "wheeee"
*** RIVER *** [Ts Kd Kc 5h] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Kh Ks] (four of a kind, Kings)
clad59: mucks hand
toddanderson collected $33.05 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $34.75 | Rake $1.70
Board [Ts Kd Kc 5h 2s]
Seat 1: toddanderson (small blind) showed [Kh Ks] and won ($33.05) with four of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: Erwin B (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Riritkt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: clad59 mucked [As Ac]
Seat 6: Stephan4482 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

POKERSTARS GAME #12700647533: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/18 - 13:34:59 (ET)
Table 'Centesima' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Maethi ($13.75 in chips)
Seat 2: pepehaha ($27.70 in chips)
Seat 3: sol1ps ($8.75 in chips)
Seat 4: toddanderson ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 5: neglord ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 6: okpit ($15.55 in chips)
neglord: posts small blind $0.10
okpit: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [6c Ac]
Maethi: calls $0.25
pepehaha: calls $0.25
sol1ps: folds
toddanderson: calls $0.25
neglord: folds
okpit: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 2c Ah]
okpit: checks
Maethi: checks
pepehaha: checks
toddanderson: bets $0.50
okpit: folds
Maethi: calls $0.50
pepehaha: folds
*** TURN *** [Qs 2c Ah] [6s]
Maethi: checks
toddanderson: bets $1
Maethi: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Qs 2c Ah 6s] [6h]
Maethi: checks
toddanderson: bets $2
Maethi: raises $10 to $12 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Maethi: shows [Kh Qc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
toddanderson: shows [6c Ac] (a full house, Sixes full of Aces)
toddanderson collected $26.75 from pot
Maethi leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28.10 | Rake $1.35
Board [Qs 2c Ah 6s 6h]
Seat 1: Maethi showed [Kh Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 2: pepehaha folded on the Flop
Seat 3: sol1ps folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: toddanderson (button) showed [6c Ac] and won ($26.75) with a full house, Sixes full of Aces
Seat 5: neglord (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: okpit (big blind) folded on the Flop



Time to read stuff, go over hands, think and watch some TV.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:26 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't 3-bet with KQ OOP even if opp does PFR alot. Meh, but I'm a nit.

I think your 3-bet with KK is weak. I make it at least $3.

I'm not folding TPTK in the AQ hand to an overbet. Maybe I'm getting accustomed to lousy players at AP and Cake, but I push here and fully expect worse hands to call. If I get stacked by A3, so be it. But don't micro donks love to slowplay? Why bet $6 into a $5 pot when your straight hits?

Edit: I was referring to the first KK hand, but same thing applies to the second one.
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haha, good luck on your operation.
Still trying to explode like you and danny dammit. But thank you haha. Also thanks for the great help in the past.



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I wouldn't 3-bet with KQ OOP even if opp does PFR alot. Meh, but I'm a nit.

I think your 3-bet with KK is weak. I make it at least $3.

I'm not folding TPTK in the AQ hand to an overbet. Maybe I'm getting accustomed to lousy players at AP and Cake, but I push here and fully expect worse hands to call. If I get stacked by A3, so be it. But don't micro donks love to slowplay? Why bet $6 into a $5 pot when your straight hits?

Edit: I was referring to the first KK hand, but same thing applies to the second one.
First and foremost, thanks for taking the time to read my hands and give me some comments.

Yeah, the 3-bet with KQ was to try to get him to cool it some and also to do it with a hand that can flop well. However, KQs isn't the greatest "flop well" hand so I should have waited for a better spot.

Yes, the $2 may be too short. I basically auto hit bet pot but I also really thought Mo11 was folding leaving an easy allin flop with Jvschaik. Nice reminder that I can't always rely on this to happen, huh?

The overbet is very odd. I have seen donks do this when they hit their hands but I think in this case villain is too loose to give him much credit. I think he can easily do this with a hand like QT or Q9. I believe I should have valued the crap out of this hand.

Anyways, just wanted to say I thought about these hands before you posted and def. agree with you. Now I just need to realize this stuff in the heat of battle.
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 Alright, I'm moving down to $5NL today and playing a more LAG style based on a really good video I just watched. However, the main focus of this will to RARELY ever call bets. Taylor Caby suggests doing this from time to time and believes he can win at 25/50NL without calling. I played some so far today and ran like 24/20 with pretty good success except for one suckout and one hand where top two lost to bottom set against a villain who always pushes TPTK (as you will see when I post the suckout). I obviously won't play this way at 25NL (pre nor post completely) as I feel tighter is mainly the better strat at these stakes but I am trying to get a much better feel for spots. This strat involves stealing the blinds much more than my usual 20-23% style, given that these villains do not defend too much obv. Again, I am not completely dumb and will only use what I gain from this practice when the situation is correct at my normal stakes. Anyways, call this stupid but it seems like I am learning already by doing this.
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Alright, I'm moving down to $5NL today and playing a more LAG style based on a really good video I just watched. However, the main focus of this will to RARELY ever call bets. Taylor Caby suggests doing this from time to time and believes he can win at 25/50NL without calling. I played some so far today and ran like 24/20 with pretty good success except for one suckout and one hand where top two lost to bottom set against a villain who always pushes TPTK (as you will see when I post the suckout). I obviously won't play this way at 25NL (pre nor post completely) as I feel tighter is mainly the better strat at these stakes but I am trying to get a much better feel for spots. This strat involves stealing the blinds much more than my usual 20-23% style, given that these villains do not defend too much obv. Again, I am not completely dumb and will only use what I gain from this practice when the situation is correct at my normal stakes. Anyways, call this stupid but it seems like I am learning already by doing this.
Which CR video was that? Tell me it wasn't brystmar please.

The difference between awesome LAGG's and spewtards IMO is hand-reading ability. Get better at it. BTW, 24/20 isn't LAGGY, it's pretty TAGGY. I'd go like 35/27 and have some real fun.
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 I know it's TAGGY in most cases but it's more LAGGY at lower stakes for "regs" at least. But yeah, the plan was to go in the upper 30's but haven't had the hands quite yet, though I think I finished my first quick session at 27/20 not 24/20. Not a huge difference. What's wrong with brystmar's vid? Never seen it BTW. And yeah, the Taylor Caby thing is completely different from the video I watched, I just want to see if I can get better at hand-reading using an idea he suggests.
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However, learning how to play as a really good TAG may be the first step before learning to how play as a really good LAG.
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 Thanks for the input. I'm not sure if you read the part though where I agree that TAG is a better strat overall at my stakes. I was/am just doing that idea to play more hands postflop at an affordable price. Anyways, appreciate you taking the time to read this, I love all the strat stuff you do and I have been watching your operation over the months. Please keep posting your ideas.
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 You have got to be kidding me. Ever since my last attempt at 50NL I have gotten no cards whatsoever. Outflopped every hand as well. This is ridiculous. I'm due sometime, right?

Down over 2 buyins after 500 hands. Played one hand very poorly. Beyond pissed right now.
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 "...because flopping a flush is sick" - Sauce. He told me this once when giving advice about something and I agreed, not really thinking it would happen much. But, just doubled up with a flopped flush to an overpair. After over 700 hands I am down just under a buyin. GG two tabling.
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 Thanks man. I was sucking at 6-8 tables. Got better at 2 tables. I really need to control my fucking temper. Hope you're doing well sir.
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 Haha, 2-tabling is da bomb. Sorry about the gauntlet, my luck continues in it. Every time I rant somewhere about a bad day I end up winning that thing. And dammit Jack, keep posting in this damn thread with that avatar of yours. Your advice is much appreciated as well.
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 getting 3 outterred like crazy not to mention set over set. Down a lot. Yay for running extremely bad the past, hmm, fuck if I know how many hands. A whole lot for sure though.

EDIT: I seem to have forgotten the 2 outer as well. Oh well, you guys get the idea. Yay for whining.
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 Finally hit hard. Fucked over a very aggro blind stealer. Preflop is definitely questionable but he has quickly folded the last times I 3bet his button raise. In fact, I really think this is a +EV move as it's ahead of his range (basically halfway of his button range), he folds too much (I should probably 3bet slightly less here), and I have a lot of implied odds when he actually does call. Anyways, thank god for this hand or I would have had another losing cash game day. Anyways, I like my turn bet size as it induces a raise.

PokerStars Game #12848720061: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/10/25 - 22:58:12 (ET)
Table 'Sophrosyne' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: WHL1944 ($56.85 in chips)
Seat 2: iamfutureman ($46.30 in chips)
Seat 4: toddanderson ($27.10 in chips)
Seat 6: ChristosKa ($11.10 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.10
ChristosKa: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [7h 9h]
WHL1944: folds
iamfutureman: raises $0.75 to $1
Raise-inator joins the table at seat #3
toddanderson: raises $2.50 to $3.50
ChristosKa: folds
iamfutureman: calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [Jh 7s 5d]
toddanderson: bets $4.50
iamfutureman: calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [Jh 7s 5d] [7d]
toddanderson: bets $5
iamfutureman: raises $15 to $20
toddanderson: calls $14.10 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Jh 7s 5d 7d] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [7h 9h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
iamfutureman: mucks hand
toddanderson collected $52.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $54.45 | Rake $2
Board [Jh 7s 5d 7d Ac]
Seat 1: WHL1944 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: iamfutureman (button) mucked [6d 4s]
Seat 4: toddanderson (small blind) showed [7h 9h] and won ($52.45) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 6: ChristosKa (big blind) folded before Flop


As far as the rest of the day, I played very well and just got shit on. I know I'm not the best but I really had HUGE amounts of equity (80%+ numerous times) that ended up being huge losers.
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 K just talked to some dude who played like 15-20k hands in 5 days at 25NL and can now move up from his original $500 BR. Soooo this is inspiring me to fuck it and play a lot this week. I think I have an exam on Thurs. so on Wed. I may not be able to do as much as I would have liked. Gonna go over a bunch of shit tonight too. Might posts PokerEV graphs too. This program is something I am trying to learn though, I know nothing about it basically.
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Very much appreciated! Keep crushing the high stakes (and update your blog please).

Here's a graph of my last 5.7k hands. I completely suck at hands I do not take to showdown. Anyone have suggestions on how to look for leaks for this?

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 Since naming this thread, I have become extremely...worse. No worries, time to step up my aggression
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 Sklansky owes me a lot of money. But fuck it, I feel like I am playing a lot better regardless of my shitty luck (yay losing an all-in 88%er). Spoke to someone who plays a shitload of hands at 25NL and said I have an AF of 10.65. This is of a pretty good sample. I was very surprised because I really don't think it's right. But oh well, I amped up my aggression today but only in good spots. 3-barrelled 5 high once vs. the right villain and got a fold.
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Spoke to someone who plays a shitload of hands at 25NL and said I have an AF of 10.65. This is of a pretty good sample. I was very surprised because I really don't think it's right.
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Yeah. Knew I worded it wrong when I wrote it but was too lazy. I am not that high thought pretty high overall. I just thought it was weird to be playing with someone over about 400 hands and have that number.
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 So I am getting better. So the BR is going down.
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 So I am getting better. So the BR goes up and then 2 outers and runner runners after the money goes allin is fucking it up again. FUCK. Anyways, my internet is gay and I am "stealing" a connection but it sucks. I am learning a lot, not really playing bad after I got soooo much help from spenda, Jyms, and others. I really appreciate everything. I'll keep trucking.

EDIT: Allin on flop, and weeee another runner runner. What the fuck!

EDIT2: Just stacked this fucker on my last edit so back to even with him I guess. Still not fair.
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 PokerStars Game #13209479158: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/11/13 - 00:12:58 (ET)
Table 'Thersites II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: #1RedskinsFn ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: MUSTANGFREY ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 3: MikeG.PS ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 4: JAYR7710 ($21.65 in chips)
Seat 5: juliam73 ($22.05 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($33.35 in chips)
JAYR7710: posts small blind $0.10
juliam73: posts big blind $0.25
#1RedskinsFn: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qc Qd]
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
#1RedskinsFn: folds
MUSTANGFREY: calls $1.25
MikeG.PS: folds
JAYR7710: calls $1.15
juliam73: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s Jd 5d]
JAYR7710: checks
toddanderson: bets $3.50
MUSTANGFREY: calls $3.50
JAYR7710: folds
*** TURN *** [8s Jd 5d] [4h]
toddanderson: bets $6
MUSTANGFREY: raises $13.15 to $19.15 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $13.15
*** RIVER *** [8s Jd 5d 4h] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
MUSTANGFREY: shows [Ah 3s] (a straight, Ace to Five)
MUSTANGFREY collected $47.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $49.55 | Rake $2.45
Board [8s Jd 5d 4h 2s]
Seat 1: #1RedskinsFn folded before Flop
Seat 2: MUSTANGFREY showed [Ah 3s] and won ($47.10) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 3: MikeG.PS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JAYR7710 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: juliam73 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: toddanderson showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens

This happened right after (on another table) I got stacked hitting the nut straight on flop, being priced in by turn and some dude hitting his flush. I mean he doubled the pot on turn (yes 2X pot bet), I raise to commit us (we were deep)...waiting for a push or fold, he calls and I have to call when river completes. I don't really have internet connection so I am lucky to get even 300 hands in a day and then this shit happens every fucking day. It's unreal. My hands are actually shaking from disgust. I may quit, but if I do I wouldn't have the money to start back up until a year or two.
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 This is a luck graph of my last 47 allins.

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PokerStars Game #13209479158: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/11/13 - 00:12:58 (ET)
Table 'Thersites II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: #1RedskinsFn ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: MUSTANGFREY ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 3: MikeG.PS ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 4: JAYR7710 ($21.65 in chips)
Seat 5: juliam73 ($22.05 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($33.35 in chips)
JAYR7710: posts small blind $0.10
juliam73: posts big blind $0.25
#1RedskinsFn: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qc Qd]
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
#1RedskinsFn: folds
MUSTANGFREY: calls $1.25
MikeG.PS: folds
JAYR7710: calls $1.15
juliam73: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s Jd 5d]
JAYR7710: checks
toddanderson: bets $3.50
MUSTANGFREY: calls $3.50
JAYR7710: folds
*** TURN *** [8s Jd 5d] [4h]
toddanderson: bets $6
MUSTANGFREY: raises $13.15 to $19.15 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $13.15
*** RIVER *** [8s Jd 5d 4h] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
MUSTANGFREY: shows [Ah 3s] (a straight, Ace to Five)
MUSTANGFREY collected $47.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $49.55 | Rake $2.45
Board [8s Jd 5d 4h 2s]
Seat 1: #1RedskinsFn folded before Flop
Seat 2: MUSTANGFREY showed [Ah 3s] and won ($47.10) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 3: MikeG.PS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JAYR7710 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: juliam73 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: toddanderson showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens

This happened right after (on another table) I got stacked hitting the nut straight on flop, being priced in by turn and some dude hitting his flush. I mean he doubled the pot on turn (yes 2X pot bet), I raise to commit us (we were deep)...waiting for a push or fold, he calls and I have to call when river completes. I don't really have internet connection so I am lucky to get even 300 hands in a day and then this shit happens every fucking day. It's unreal. My hands are actually shaking from disgust. I may quit, but if I do I wouldn't have the money to start back up until a year or two.
This hand made me cry!
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PokerStars Game #13209479158: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/11/13 - 00:12:58 (ET)
Table 'Thersites II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: #1RedskinsFn ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: MUSTANGFREY ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 3: MikeG.PS ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 4: JAYR7710 ($21.65 in chips)
Seat 5: juliam73 ($22.05 in chips)
Seat 6: toddanderson ($33.35 in chips)
JAYR7710: posts small blind $0.10
juliam73: posts big blind $0.25
#1RedskinsFn: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Qc Qd]
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
#1RedskinsFn: folds
MUSTANGFREY: calls $1.25
MikeG.PS: folds
JAYR7710: calls $1.15
juliam73: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s Jd 5d]
JAYR7710: checks
toddanderson: bets $3.50
MUSTANGFREY: calls $3.50
JAYR7710: folds
*** TURN *** [8s Jd 5d] [4h]
toddanderson: bets $6
MUSTANGFREY: raises $13.15 to $19.15 and is all-in
toddanderson: calls $13.15
*** RIVER *** [8s Jd 5d 4h] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
MUSTANGFREY: shows [Ah 3s] (a straight, Ace to Five)
MUSTANGFREY collected $47.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $49.55 | Rake $2.45
Board [8s Jd 5d 4h 2s]
Seat 1: #1RedskinsFn folded before Flop
Seat 2: MUSTANGFREY showed [Ah 3s] and won ($47.10) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 3: MikeG.PS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: JAYR7710 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: juliam73 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: toddanderson showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens

This happened right after (on another table) I got stacked hitting the nut straight on flop, being priced in by turn and some dude hitting his flush. I mean he doubled the pot on turn (yes 2X pot bet), I raise to commit us (we were deep)...waiting for a push or fold, he calls and I have to call when river completes. I don't really have internet connection so I am lucky to get even 300 hands in a day and then this shit happens every fucking day. It's unreal. My hands are actually shaking from disgust. I may quit, but if I do I wouldn't have the money to start back up until a year or two.
This hand made me weep!
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This is a luck graph of my last 47 allins.

I might be wrong, but over 47AI at $25NL, shouldn't you're expected winnings be higher than that? Are you getting it in bad frequently, or am i missing something?

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This is a luck graph of my last 47 allins.

I might be wrong, but over 47AI at $25NL, shouldn't you're expected winnings be higher than that? Are you getting it in bad frequently, or am i missing something?

That QQ is gross btw.
That graph shows what I should expect after I went allin. My graph shows that I should be winning a lot more than I am. So, I got the money in good, but my great luck is killing me. I've also had a few KK<AA all-in preflop hands so that is hurting the BR as well.
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I mean from a purely statistical pov tho. As a really crude example, say you got your money in as a 60/40 favourite in each of your 47 hands against full stacks. You should end up 9.4BIs to the good if all went exactly as mathmatically predicted. So, expected winnings would be around $235? Obv. this is not taking into account stack sizes, so it could be way off.

btw, I'm not criticising you at all, just trying to understand how this EV software works, as I'll be getting PT and all the flashy graphing software when i begin my bonus whoring odyssey soon :P
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I mean from a purely statistical pov tho. As a really crude example, say you got your money in as a 60/40 favourite in each of your 47 hands against full stacks. You should end up 9.4BIs to the good if all went exactly as mathmatically predicted. So, expected winnings would be around $235? Obv. this is not taking into account stack sizes, so it could be way off.

btw, I'm not criticising you at all, just trying to understand how this EV software works, as I'll be getting PT and all the flashy graphing software when i begin my bonus whoring odyssey soon :P
Yeah, you are right. I'm not expert at this program but I know a little. A quick google search will take you to a pretty good 2+2 thread on PokerEV as well as PokerEV's forum at their website. Anyways, GL with your journey, hope it goes really well.
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 your bet sizing on the QQ hand is meh
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:48 PM #40 (permalink)  
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your bet sizing on the QQ hand is meh
What do you suggest? I basically full pot it on flop with all the draws, 3-way, and I feel worse will call, better will most likely raise. Turn a little over half as all I have is a pair and I still give draws bad odds. I guess bet bigger on turn? My original plan was to actually B/F this on turn.
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 Not many hands at all but did pretty well. Up $.05 over the past 2 days so I made up what I lost yesterday at least.
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 I think b/f that turn would be a leak results notwithstanding

You'll have committed 40%+ of your stack and still have showdown equity even against their shoving range. B/c the turn is fine, which you did, which I don't get how your original plan was to b/f????????
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I think b/f that turn would be a leak results notwithstanding

You'll have committed 40%+ of your stack and still have showdown equity even against their shoving range. B/c the turn is fine, which you did, which I don't get how your original plan was to b/f????????
I was tilting and I lost a hand on another table so I said fuck it I'm calling. Pretty smart right? But what about my bet sizing makes this hand bad? You don't have to give me an answer if you don't want to, but please guide me in the right direction.
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 I owed you an explanation about HUD usage, and I think this dude pretty much sums it all up exactly the way I see it:



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The argument comes up here because the overwhelming uniformity of actions over the hundreds of thousands of hands played by this group suggests that some steering by an overriding script was involved in the process. Just from the top, it's laughable that three players could play hours and hours at up to 36 tables at the same limits and never once accidentally end up two at the same table. The only logical explanation for this is that the three computers are linked (probably to a fourth computer), with a script specifically warning them when such a situation is likely to occur. The players wouldn't want to be at the same table, anyway, because that would open them up to collusion charges of a different sort.

The problem, though, is the automation itself. It's highly ironic that the accuser identified the purported bot users through PAHUD, another live-time application that gives its users an unfair advantage. (Many sites specifically ban the program.) PAHUD usage is linked to another spurious practice, datamining, which means gathering results from tables the user is not at, simply for the purpose of gathering data on potential opponents.

I detest the practice. It's cheating. Its proponents rationalize datamining and PAHUD usage by noting that since other people are doing it, they have to, too, or else they'll be at a disadvantage as well. And a lot of sites have recognized the difficulty in policing these programs and have basically thrown up their hands at the whole mess.

A few of the technowonks are only now realizing that the line between swiping an illicit computer edge and veering toward bot-driven play isn't as clear as it might seem. In true self-serving fashion, a whole bunch of 2+2ers are up in arms over what they perceive as Full Tilt's failure to properly police its games and eliminate bots, even as these same posters are the foremost practioners of hunting down the latest techie tool to play a few more tables or get information on their opponents that they haven't earned by playing the hands themselves. I can justify PokerTracker's usage (though I don't myself), because it provides a rough equivalence in knowledge value compared to what would be lost due to online poker's speeded-up play. But the Pokerbilitys and the PAHUDs and the action scripts... damn them all. Collectively. For tilting the table balance, for moving online poker farther and farther away from the live version of the game, which it's really supposed to replicate.

It's all about hypocrisy and greed, really. Hypocrisy on the players' part, to imagine that their preferred technological angle-shoot is somehow more legit than someone else's. Poker bots are just the extreme end of that whole damn sliding scale. The greed, well that's both the tech-driven players and the sites. The tech-driven players are greedy for cheating the system to grab a larger slice of the pie than their poker skills would otherwise entitle them to, and to the sites, for enabling so many tables to be played by a single account that it virtually begs for these add-ons and enhancements to be used... just because there might be a bit more rake to be had that way. I'm not calling out any site in particular, either; it's an industry-wide issue.

And, a now-open can of worms. It's important, because it shines a cold spotlight on exactly what technology, in its worst incarnation, has brought to the world of online poker.

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 wow @ the QQ hand (just realize he is 1:5 to hit on the river)


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 I'll have to read that post in a few days, Jack. My internet connection BARELY works. Because of this I got in 3 hands today. Here is the second:

PokerStars Game #13331132338: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/11/19 - 00:40:27 (ET)
Table 'Klymene' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Pigslice ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 4: catoandtonic ($32.90 in chips)
Seat 5: crackamatt5 ($21 in chips)
Seat 6: coddevil ($26.05 in chips)
catoandtonic: posts small blind $0.10
crackamatt5: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [Jc Ah]
coddevil: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1 to $1.25
Pigslice: folds
catoandtonic: folds
crackamatt5: folds
coddevil: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Jd 6s 3h]
coddevil: checks
toddanderson: bets $2
coddevil: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Jd 6s 3h] [9s]
coddevil: checks
toddanderson: bets $4
coddevil: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Jd 6s 3h 9s] [Kc]
coddevil: checks
toddanderson: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coddevil: shows [Td Qd] (a straight, Nine to King)
toddanderson: mucks hand

And the 3rd I had 6Ts in the BB. The guy above calls and it's us two to the flop. Flop: 6TA. I bet pot, he calls. Turn is an 8. I bet pot. He calls. River is another 8. I bet half and he calls. Board reads 6TA88 and he flips over an Ace for another runner runner victory. This hand wasn't as bad though. Just sucks losing and then your internet sucking so you can't win it back. Oh well, I played good IMO besides the river bet in hand 3.
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 If your argument is being against datamining then amen, I agree. And yes, I agree that it takes away the live-play feel but I guess I fall victim to the "if there's going to be a tool to help reads, then I am going to jump on it."

You don't even like using PokerTracker?

EDIT: I guess US websites do allow datamining? Did not know this. Thought it was all illegal.
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 Little update. Took shots at 50NL because I felt like I was playing well and had a good enough roll again. Some dude cold calls K9o and hits his straight as I hit my set on the flop and I don't improve. 50NL is def. beatable, a lot of bad play there. I moved back to 25NL and after a few hands I flop da nuts!!!! Time to stack 'em.

PokerStars Game #13524682006: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/11/28 - 15:21:18 (ET)
Table 'Brauna III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: toddanderson ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 2: spiderdidi ($16.10 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerrickkie ($29.40 in chips)
Seat 4: Cyberantoine ($21.40 in chips)
Seat 5: keteltjem ($13.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Tx2Timer ($22.30 in chips)
toddanderson: posts small blind $0.10
spiderdidi: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddanderson [9h 9d]
pokerrickkie: calls $0.25
Cyberantoine: folds
keteltjem: folds
Tx2Timer: calls $0.25
toddanderson: raises $1.25 to $1.50
spiderdidi: folds
pokerrickkie: calls $1.25
Tx2Timer: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 9c 3s]
toddanderson: bets $3
pokerrickkie: raises $7 to $10
toddanderson: raises $15.40 to $25.40 and is all-in
pokerrickkie: calls $15.40
*** TURN *** [4s 9c 3s] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [4s 9c 3s 8d] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
toddanderson: shows [9h 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
pokerrickkie: shows [Th Jc] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
pokerrickkie collected $51.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $54.30 | Rake $2.70
Board [4s 9c 3s 8d 7h]
Seat 1: toddanderson (small blind) showed [9h 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: spiderdidi (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: pokerrickkie showed [Th Jc] and won ($51.60) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 4: Cyberantoine folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: keteltjem folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tx2Timer (button) folded before Flop

His response was "I thought you were bluffing." So key note; J high is a very good bluff catching hand. But in all seriousness, I think everyone including myself are getting tired of me posting bad beats. It just doesn't add anything to a good discussion and they happen to everyone. Right now I am working on bet sizing. I think I leave a lot of value at the tables according to a few discussions.
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