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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Didn't play poker at all today. play 1/2 live. made 280. Man are they loooooooooooooose
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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I played 1 3,000 hand session took about 5.5 hours. Feel decent about my play. Though my c bet for this session was down too low, I was only betting when I thought they would fold better or call with worse. I am going to review all those hands to make sure I am not missing spots. because 3k hands is a decent sample and my C bet flop shouldn't bet 35%.
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!Luck
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Another break even week.
Good news: I am putting poeple on ranges nearly ever hand
Bad news: I am making tons of Hey I know this guy has a set in this spot. Then i call and well he has set.
The previous two weeks I was surprised when villains showed up with very strong parts of their range. Now I know what they are showing up with. I guess that's progress. I no one follows fail operations, but I am not giving up and those of little faith can go F yourself. Well, I am just kidding no one wants to see a person break even like this week after week, when he was doing well before. Not only am I failing but I am failing in a very basic way.
My game is going through changes. My c bet has recovered from 35% to something more decent. Besides the losses of TPTK vs set and Over Pair vs set, my leaks have been playing overly aggressive in 3 bet pots. And lastly I over play drawing hands. I need to keep reminding myself that a fold equity is a must and many poeple don't drop there over pairs and two, there really isn't any reason to play them this aggressively.
In general I am in life fail, but i have tons of experience with this. I know my personalty, what amazes me most is that not only have I not said fuck it lets play some 1,000NL, but i really have no desire to do that. I want to slowly get over my issues and move up. Part of it is perspective that I am comfortable with making poker my hobby for life. As such, I need to develop good habits and if it takes me some time to get over these issues so be it. I have one strength that sets me above most poker players. It is my bankroll management.
I have also had some thoughts and realized that when i was employed I was getting so pissed that so much of my time was spent at work. I realize now after the experience of one year of freedom is that a lot of life is perspective. One of the most important things that I need to get out of poker and this is the my way of looking at failure is so wrong.
As a youth a lot of things came easy to me, because I am "smart". I was told by teachers how smart I was, when I got good grades it was nearly always because of my intelligence. Sadly, I am smart but not brilliant it has been hard to accept this. But I have at least for the last two years.
What does this mean for me? Means just like 99% of poeple, if I want to succeed I need to work hard consistently. The first step is realizing that working hard is NOT in itself failure, as I used to think.
Working out has helped with this. My weight and physical appearance was a foreshadowing of my intelligence, which while in high school, I was a swimmer and could eat anything I wanted and due to having rigorous work outs i was always in great shape.
All of this means is I am a lazy slob, with disillusion of grandeur. First step is realizing this. Realizing that I am wasting some of my gifts because, i have a strong aversion to hard work. This personality trait has hurt me in subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways all my life.
My life will pass me by no matter what I do. Life when looking back at it is always just a sequence of pleasant/unpleasant memories. The daily grind is not remember. In another words whether you are working your butt of working out sleeping 6 hours a day and giving it your all or just half assing everything and watching tv to pass the time, you will look back at it all the same. THE Difference, is that working hard should allow one to have more pleasant experiences in their life. Like vacations to exotic places. greater achievements in the work place and family life.
When I was younger 21ish I said "I am miserable, I might as well be rich" so i worked hard at my job. in the last 2 years I have been very happy and have no great desire for fortune. But the key is that I do not remember the daily misery just like I do not remember the daily happiness of my comfortable life. It is as though it never happened, I do remember going on vacations, the occasional great night out with friends. a friends wedding or the passing of someone close to you.
I need to internalize the concept of hard work and just do it. I know how to lose weight and get my body fat down to 8%. Exercise isn't enough, a well balanced meal plan, that excludes consuming McDonald's 2x a week.
I am surprised that I enjoy writing this. Even though I know for fact this will be fuel for some here to make fun of me in private. Accepting my faults in such a public manner is helpful to me.
I will work hard. One day I will beat 25nl. It may be next week or next year. But I will do it.
I will drop my body fat to 8% and eat a well balanced diet that will provide me with a lengthy life.
I will not stress about the difficulties of life and just take them as they come.
As some great man once said "success is doing the best you can". I hope to one day succeed.
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4-of-a-Kind
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I think we're quite similar in respect to wanting things a fucklload yet sometimes being lazy and doing very little about them. You'll be able to beat 25NL in no time with a bit of hard work. The success will come if your enthusiasm levels stay as high as they are just now. Beating stakes like 25Nl is not about being brilliant as you know, it's about being focussed, disciplined and more logical than the fish around you. Just don't go deploying shit you read on 2+2 high stakes forums or watch on a training video of a guy playing 400NL and you'll do fine. Keep it simple, rarely fuck with fish or try to set up awesome 3 barrel spots etc. Value, value, value, iso the fish, extract some value then extract some more. This is the most important thing in 25NL imo - other stuff will fall into place too, but never lose sight of that being your foundation.
Seriously don't worry about the red line or any of that bs, just make sure the blue line is healthy and your win rate is healthy and that you're getting value well. I'd be worried if you had a great red line at 25NL b/c it'd probably be at the great expense of your green line.
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!Luck
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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I am going to start to allow myself to fold KK preflop. Though the situation to fold KK preflop doesn't come up often I am tired of the following thing happening..
I raise 1 he raises to 1.75 , i 3 bet to 4 he 5 bets to 6. i 6 bet to 11, he shoves. i call he flops aa
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Originally Posted by !Luck
I am going to start to allow myself to fold KK preflop. Though the situation to fold KK preflop doesn't come up often I am tired of the following thing happening..
I raise 1 he raises to 1.75 , i 3 bet to 4 he 5 bets to 6. i 6 bet to 11, he shoves. i call he flops aa
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don't 3bet KK if you don't want to felt it pre
don't 4bet KK if you don't want to felt it pre
and certainly don't 6bet it and plan on folding
also if you are able to make a 6th bet preflop, it should certainly almost always be all-in otherwise your opponent isn't making any mistakes because no one is gonna 7-bet you without aces.
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"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here!
"You are a degenerate Gaam-balur"
http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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btw your 4bet is tiny...why?
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"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here!
"You are a degenerate Gaam-balur"
http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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my 4 bet sucked.
Also the logic I used with KK is that if someone 3 bets qq+,ak. I get more value of them by stacking of pre. Because if i wait til flop, qq doesn't stack of on a K high board, AK will likely stack off but having a K show up makes it less likely he had AK. Further if flop comes Q high and I hold KK I cannot C bet, because if he shoves, I have to fold. If I check to him he bets I have to call, which commits me.
I will start calling 3 bet with KK, with a plan to stack off on most flops. Though, I know some aggressive opponents love to 3 bet tt+.
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!Luck
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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looking a lot like bust.
i finally had a great playing day. making very few mistakes. then decided hey why not try to change this -8 dollar day into postive before i sign off. i can go start a few tables and play heads up vs some fish........
im the fish. so another -63 day.....
no one to blame but myself....
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!Luck
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Done with poker. BR:~1150. Not withdrawing. But I no longer have the mental discipline to play a winning game.
I will be back.
-!luck
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Definitely don't delve into HU cash games unless you're starting at a level well below what you normally play full ring or 6max.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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(11:08:52 PM) !luck Poker hand played on PokerStars with a pot size of $47.50 - Pokerhand.org guy is 12/7/ 4.5% 3 bet. higher from blinds. 23 ATS sample size 341 hands . i complted cause i was fairly confident he would steal
(11:09:46 PM) xojessahhox do you often open limp
(11:10:01 PM) !luck rarely. just low pockets like 22-77
(11:10:19 PM) xojessahhox ok well don't do it ever
(11:10:22 PM) xojessahhox like you did here
(11:10:56 PM) xojessahhox so your plan was to limp/3bet and stack off
(11:11:04 PM) !luck it was 3 bet
(11:11:08 PM) !luck then i didn't really think about
(11:11:14 PM) !luck when he 4 bet. thats when i started to think
(11:11:15 PM) !luck about that
(11:11:32 PM) xojessahhox ok why did you open limp, and why did you 3bet, and why did you 5bet shove
(11:11:47 PM) !luck so i can steal some moneies from him
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Straight
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Why are you putting so much pressure on yourself to succeed, particularly in something that doesn't have a timeframe?
If it's not working today there's always tomorrow. There is time.
RE: The hand spoon just posted, if you're doing stuff like that often it will lead to a lot of variance and marginal winrates, especially over smaller samples. If not having winning sessions is destroying your confidence, tighten up and just phone in some straight forward, easy winning sessions. Save the more marginal stuff for when you're feeling better, playing better and capable of making the best decisions. Good luck.
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Dude, you JUST started attempting the pokers and you're trying way to hard to move up to 50NL. I mean, your blog name is entitled 50NL or bust. You have the wrong attitude about poker. I suggest you check your ego at the door and give it one more shot.
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Well, he said he would be back and wasn't withdrawing.
I think it's worth mentioning that it can be dangerous to have expectations. We just don't know what the road looks like ahead. Also, patience is a very key part of poker in both the short term and the long term. We have to have the patience to get the cards, hit the flops, and win the pots. We need patience for the EV moves to work out both when we're on a downswing AND when we're on a heater. In our best and darkest moments, We're never as good as we think we are or bad as we think we are. We need patience to FAIL so that we can learn from our failures and then take what we've learned to be successful. One of the scariest but also most exciting parts of moving up a stake for me personally is KNOWING I will donk off money to competent regulars due to getting outplayed or trying new plays on my own and that I can't learn those lessons until I fail. I literally have to pay for the lesson. But, it's very rewarding to come out like roses on the other side because you paid the price, put in the time, and made the adjustments.
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!Luck
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Thank you for the support and advice (Jason and BooG690).
To be abundantly clear. I will be back when I can be patient and disciplined. It is hard for me to admit public failure. But failing, I hope, is one step to success.
Thanks again.
!luck
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Break over. No more operations. Going to play as many hands as i feel like. So it could be zero or 5k in a day. I wont be updating this any more but will be posting in BC from time to time.
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Welcome back from your break, hope you feel refreshed and ready to own some fish. GL.
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
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most of this has probably been said, !Luck, but the goals you set yourself in poker seemed to be far too results-oriented, which made your view of poker results-oriented, and then you tilt and play sub-optimally etc etc. goals like this can often be counter-productive because you attach your ego to something far beyond your control. and we all know how much of a rollercoaster variance can be. if you do set yourself strict poker goals in the future, i'd advise making them things which will improve your winrate which you can control ie x amount of hands per day, x hours of study time per day, sweat sessions, hand analysis, whatever. all this said i'm a lazy bastard and do not practice what i preach for the most part (ie make plans but failt o stick to them). but im getting better. good luck, and good to see you back on the grind.
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Straight Flush
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cool story bro
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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