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| kmind |
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| Sigh Jyms...you are constantly feeling like shit? | |||
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| jyms |
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| Not the right thread for me to post it but short answer, hell yea. physically, not mentally though. | |||
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| bjsaust |
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| Sucks. I feel crap in both. Like my brains full of cotton wool. | |||
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| kmind |
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| All I know is that Ben just gave me his cold dammit. | |||
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| bjsaust |
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The good news: Played a $2.20 rebuy to waste time and won for $150 The bad news: Got bored and played some other tournies and some ring and lost about $150 at the same time. God I suck. I'm starting to question me and poker. |
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Hey Ben, seems like you are forgeting to manage your emotions. If you feel bad you play bad then feel even worse etc etc. I try not to get down on myself. Enough people are happy to do it but i am the only person who wont ever be down on me. Perhaps you post should have read Won $150 playing a tournie, as usual lost it again but what the hell. I won a tournie!!!!!!! |
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| bjsaust |
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Yeah, you know it, I know it, and everyone reading this Op knows it. Hell, I wrote about only a couple days ago. Doesnt mean its easy to do though  .I went through a bunch of hands with kmind, and they were all kind of marginal. Not bad, just kept losing in marginal spots. When I run good, I win in those marginal spots. And OMG I'm absolutely sick of spew monkeys hitting sets on the river. They have like 100% bet on all streets so I call them down with TP type hands and they've got something like 33 that hits a 3 on the river. Must have happenned like 10 times in the last couple days. Its where poker messes with your head, if I raised them that wouldnt happen, but theres more EV in letting someone like that barrel away with 2 outs then pushing them out of the pot. It just sucks though. I've also had people hit way too many gutshots on me. Still, what I think it is, is like Fnord says, everyone plays a couple stinkers every session. When I'm winning those stinkers just mean I dont win quite so much so I dont care much. When I'm losing though, I really curse those plays and let them get into my head. Do have to try to work on it, just...not too sure how. |
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Positive comment on the tourney: I rocked!! I only won about 2 hands prior to the FT. KK ai on about the 3rd hand to a gambling shove monkey (ATs), and then JJ ai v's AK v's AK when I had 10bbs left on 2 tables to go I think. A few blind steals along the way but nothing exciting. Anyway, there was one guy that the whole tourney basically centered around. HUD wasnt working, but he must have been about 65/5 and just bet/bluff/call...I'll call him a maniac but mainly I dont think anyone could figure out wtf he was doing, but he kept winning lots of chips. Now I think back I think I won a few medium pots before the FT when he limped in and I picked off bluffs with 2nd pair type hands. I felt I got real good reads on him, came into the FT 4/10 think I dropped to 6/6 by the time 4 were out, then I went on my rush. Kept min-raising PF, this guy would call and I'd outplay him postflop. Pushed him off his weak bluffs when I had air, called him down when I didnt, and folded when he had something. Noone else could read him, benefits of only 1 tabling at the end I guess. Final three I started with 40k chips, another guy had 30k and he had about 120k. By the time we got HU I had the chip lead and hadnt shown down better than TPGK. Then I got lucky to finish him. Had him 160k to 80k ish. Minraise QJs, he minraised back (something he didnt do often). Flop KXX and he just minbet which I read as weak so raised him but he called. Turn a T and he minbet again so I put out almost PSB expecting him to fold but he didnt. River my A and he shoves (just because he's weak wont stop him making terrible bluffs), I call with my straight and he shows JJ. So I read him right as weak but was wrong to expect him to fold something that strong. So lucky on the last hand, but I had him under control and really felt good about how I played it. |
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| bjsaust |
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Woke up this morning so decided to give this a shot: http://www.everestpoker.com/en/promo/three-of-a-kind I normally do well at going deep in tournies, so felt I was a good shot at picking up some kind of bonus and who knows, maybe a big one! 4 hands in on one table and I get KK ai v's TT pre and he hits a set. Ahh well, probably no big bonus but maybe the 2 FT one!! Then 30 mins later with 20BBs I get ai AK v KK v AQ pre, ldo AQ wins. Still got one table running but I'm just playing for the win there now. I did however play about 10 mins of 4 cash tables to fill in time and won about $28 to cover the cost of the buyins plus some extra. OMG the tables rock at this time of the day. Would be a dozen over 40% vpip and 20 or more over 30%. Each table I got on had at least 2 50%+ guys on it. I think I should work on organising my day so I can get up early more often and play. [edit]Bleh just split KK v TT ai pre again on last tourney with a straight on the board. |
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Shitty spot, thoughts? 16/14 over 100 hands, 3/3 bet when checked to by PFR IP. $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem 5 players Converted at weaktight.com Stacks: Hero (UTG) ($90.50) CO ($117.58) BTN ($56.45) SB ($50.00) BB ($52.70) Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is UTG   Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold Flop:    ($5.75, 3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $5, SB folds, Hero raises to $15, CO calls $10 Turn:  ($35.75, 2 players)Hero bets $20, CO raises to $95.75 $53 to hero. |
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| Da GOAT |
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| WTF is wit flop cring? Barrel till he raises | |||
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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| Yea, bet that flop 3 way. Given stacks I prolly fold turn without hesitation. | |||
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Well, I've made last minute plans to be away for the weekend, so my month is over. Total profit from ring games: $87. I think kmind wins our prop bet pretty easy . Given I was up almost $500 at one point, I'm not too happy with that. Two other sessions before that where I lost 4+ buyins from basically tilt and it becomes pretty obvious where my leaks are. I've really gotta work out this mental side. I should be crushing here... Been doing some investigations on my sessions, the six sessions I've played the most hands have all been losing session. Not necessarily the longest sessions, but the most hands. I've been trying to creep up to 8 tables and its just not working. For March I stick to 6. I start doing some stop losses also I think. $50 bonus, and up about $80 from tournaments I think, so about $200 profit for the month. Not terrible, but I'm $300 off 100nl still and I should be there easily. Not very happy tbh. As for the KK hand, yeah I dont know guys. That was the end of a session when I was ready to quit after about 450 hands but decided to push through to 500 to get an estimate on how many bonus points I earnt from that many. Good example of where I just seem to lose the plot when not mentally right. The nitty TAG had 23s somehow. WTF! |
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| bjsaust |
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Went to post graph and stats and my server hosting got switched a month or so back and I just realised my user/pass to my backend doesnt work anymore, so hopefully I can sort that out. The fact I've cancelled the email account I used as my contact email in the meantime might complicate things though... Anyway, Feb was a weird month. On one hand I wish I'd played more hands (just short of 9k), on the other I wish I'd played less because it was sessions I shouldnt have played but forced myself to that hurt my results so much. I have problems, spoken about them a bunch lately. Right now I could almost quit poker, but if I'd finished the month on a winning note I'd probably be positive instead. I need to work on my emotions at the table and away. This is something I thought I was on top of a while back. Bah, I'm tired and having trouble organising all my thoughts coherently so just going to list a bunch: 1. No more prop bets for now. I dont want anything affecting my decisions other than whats best for my BR. 2. I dont play well v's decent regs. Not so much bad, but just not that great. Too many fish to do this for now. 3. I dont play well deep. I'll seriously consider leaving tables where I get deep and dont feel like its worth it. I stack off too light. 4. I think I'm going to try to adjust my schedule and get the bulk of my playing done in the mornings when more players (more fish) on, and less in the nit/tag infested afternoons. 5. I may implement a stoploss. I know this doesnt fix problems, but I used to be good at spotting my own tilt, lately not so much. 6. No more than 6 tables at once. I think every session I went above this I lost this month. In fact I did some play in HEM and this month the 5 sessions with the most hands were all losing, and all time the 6 sessions with the most hands played were all losing. Not as close a tie with time, but was definately there with hands. 7. When I play well I crush on Everest. I need to worry less about hands and qualifying for bonus tiers, because those things matter less than the edge I get when I'm playing well. 8. I play well v's fish. I need to make sure I have 1-2 at least per table. If theres only 6 tables running (and sometimes there is), I'm still not going to play on the ones without obvious fish just to have all 6 tables up. 9. Less floating. 10. More cbetting. 11. More 3-betting. 12. Back into my exercise. Thinking I'll get up early, workout, shower, grab brecky and try to get a morning session in (hard Mon-Wed since wife starts work those days this week so I'll be watching son). So in short, rework my schedule and stick to it. Play when I feel good, not when I dont. Table select. Dont try to force hands in. Address some of my leaks. I should also post a few more hands. Hmm, short version sounds pretty much like obvious I should do anyway. |
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| Da GOAT |
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| get confidence back man, we do a rail if you wanna set a time. msn me | |||
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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| LuckySlevin |
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| Yeah good luck Ben looking forward to seeing your up March graph in 30 days. btw if you want any temporary/permenant hosting just let me know I can sort you out some free hosting. | |||
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| Hey man don't fret. I completely understand where you are coming from with your attitude towards poker, it can be really frustrating. But fuck it man we are moving up to midstakes and beyond soon, this time is for real. Hope you watched some Stox videos. Also, I'll IM you later as one of those points seems the opposite of what I have been doing (with success) this month. | |||
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OK, heres my graph and stats, let me know if I should shrink the images or something.  Just dumb. I hate it when my graph looks like that. From memory I think the second sharp downswing was just coolers/beats, but the rest all had a fair amount of tilt type stuff going on. I assume you were talking about c-bet after reading your Op kmind. 43% c-bet and only 43% success. That just seems weird. Two possible explanations: 1 - People dont notice I'm nitty as hell. 2 - A huge part of my game is isolating fish (mainly calling stations) and so I dont c-bet much at them when I flop air and I get called a lot by them when I do c-bet because...well thats the whole point. Hopefully its the second one. I still figure theres room to increase it though. 3-bet seems a little low but could be sample size, I did do a fair bit of 3-bet bluffing. vs 3-bet Call% is higher than I'd like, I've been really working on getting that down (used to be like 75%). Maybe just small sample size, or perhaps I lost it a bit towards the end of the month. I can probably open a little wider on the button and a little tighter in the SB. Maybe a touch wider in the CO also? Stats definately seem nittier than I expected, although when I sit at tables full of tags I tend to tighten up. That could be a mistake (although hopefully not a big one if I start avoiding that situation more). Feels like I have so much to talk about. Whole areas of my game I need to work on. Maybe I'll submit this for now and add some standalone posts later. |
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First session of the month down, finished when I was presented with an ideal opportunity to practise quitting instead of risking tilt. Almost an hour into a slightly profitable session (about $30 up I think), and had just split AA v AA on another table: No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Hero (BB) ($50) UTG ($5) MP ($41.80) CO ($88.21) Button ($4.25) SB ($42.65) Preflop: Hero is BB with K  , K UTG bets $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB raises $42.40 (All-In), Hero calls $42.15, UTG calls $3 (All-In), 1 fold Flop: ($92.30) 2  , 8 , 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)Turn: ($92.30) 7 (3 players, 2 all-in)River: ($92.30) 10 (3 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $92.30 Results: SB had 6 , A (flush, Ace high).Hero had K , K (one pair, Kings).UTG had A , K (high card, Ace).Outcome: SB won $89.30 |
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I feel like I'm updating too often. After this one I promise to slow down. I just had a big chat to Jyms on msn about stuff (well, after talking went to the gym and then showered). I basically feel like I'm having a lot of the same problems he is, just not on the same scale. I know he's been working hard at it, so thought he might have some advice/thoughts. During the chat I realised a bunch of things I thought I'd note down. Yes my emotions are causing problems, but somethings causing those emotions. I didnt have the problems before this year, so why now? I think: a) I'm suffering from a feeling of entitlement. I feel I'm so much better than most of my opponents that I take it personally when I lose. I'm entitled to win so therefore I go on tilt trying to win it back. b) I think I'm suffering from a feeling of desperation. Even though I havnt put timelines on myself, I just feel like if I dont start reaching my monetary goals soon (regular withdrawals) that I'm just wasting my time. Every time I lose a big pot or have a bad session it feels like I'm that much further away from my goals and therefore its that much more likely that I'm just wasting time. In my mind a break even month is as good as failure. Heck, a not very profitable month is. Those are the main reasons I'm getting so emotionally affected by poker at the moment I think. Its not even that rational. I've already made a decent withdrawal paying back poker and buying my first item. When I get emotionally affected I lose more which puts me even further away from my goals. One thing we discussed, is how if you keep doing the same thing, you keep getting the same results. Well what I've been doing has gotten me to the 50/100nl type level, but its not showing signs of moving me past there. I need to look at whats required to be a winning 400nl player and do it. At some point poker moved from being a fun pastime that hopefully would earn a little money, to being part of my financial plan. If I'm going to be serious about it (not fulltime, but serious), then I need to treat it so. I need to come up with a plan to improve and gain the understanding of poker thats required to beat it at the levels I want to beat it at, and then implement it. I think for me personally, this means planning it into my life. Rather than squeezing it in when I feel like a break or have some spare time, it has to become part of my day like work, workouts, meals, family time, etc. Not just playing, in fact probably more importantly, the study side of it. The flip side of this is I need to let it go when its not poker time. Devote plenty of my time to the rest of my life so it doesnt overwhelm me and I burn out. I'm going to try to cut down on how much time I spend on FTR, study more, and work on my game in a structured way. Some planning still required there, but actually studying instead of watching (or not watching) videos will be a part of it. Some interesting notes: - There were times last month I felt I couldnt concentrate enough to watch a video so played poker instead (WTF!) - I've never once done a proper equity/range calculation. - I've never played with ranges/equity in pokerstove beyond a specific hand. |
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Got a sweat by DaGoat this morning. Lost 2.5 buyins. Was interesting, gives me a feel for how I need to think as I move up, however it also reinforced the fact that I need to play to beat the players I'm playing now. For instance a river bluff shove called by A9 on a 6789X board (not that order but the 4 straight hit on river, plus a 2-flush on turn that hit 3-flush on river) after a big turn raise. Anyone who can think should fold that, but if I'm playing people who cant fold then its not so good. Another almost full stack to a guy who donked pot 3 streets with TPNK on K high somewhat drawy board with JJ. I probably fold turn there, but his opps are quite capable of barrelling 3 streets with their draw that missed. Dont think that second one was too bad. It was the second hand (of 6 at the table) that he'd played and he donked the other one too. Marginal, but ok I think. I should also mention, I didnt mind the loss too much. I think yesterdays introspection has helped a lot emotionally. Now a session like this morning is all part of the learning process. Not going to suggest I've suddenly conquered my problems, but I feel better atm anyway. |
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Guess what I just did? Logged onto Everest, loaded some tables, played break even poker for 10 mins then quit!! Yes I'm excited (or at least happy) about that. There were no good tables, the tables I was on I didnt have good position on anyone I wanted it on, so I just quit. Even though I really wanted to win $70 today to get even for the month. I had one shitty session this week when I broke my new rules and played when the tables werent good, and stubbornly hung in against a bad LAG who had position on me and donated 3 buyins mainly to him. Other than that, the only significant losing session was the sweat session above, and I learnt a fair bit from that. My current process is to wake up early, hit the gym, shower, brecky then play poker in the AM. Good tables, lots of choice, money to be made. Not only am I finding I'm playing well and against the types of players I want to play against, but by getting 1-2 sessions done early, I no longer find myself tired at the end of the day thinking I should play just to get hands in. I'm (usually) able to say no and do something else instead. Getting regular exercise and an early start to the day doesnt hurt either  .Not too dissappointed. Theres over 5 buyins lost from two sessions and yet I only finished 1.5 buyins down for the week. I think my plays been good, I'm generally good at folding. My stats are slightly tight but its working for me so I dont care much. I got 2k hands in, which is about what I'd like. 500 hands for 4 days each. Today I probably wont play much (late night at work last night so woke late today) and its a long weekend here this weekend so I'm gone for the next 3 days. Emotional issues not gone yet (definately felt tilted after the 3 buyin down session) but better than they were and I'll keep working on them. Positive week overall, just not perfect yet  .
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I never update so if you're going to slow down I need to start up a & b) are huge. a) I'm not sure exactly how I reconciled this. I think I just accepted that I have to play her to move up to learn more, so I should figure out how to win where I am. And really, beating up on bad players at 50NL on a euro site isn't the worst position to be in b) I would imagine anyone who's not in school goes through that same thought process. I don't have a good answer here. I keep telling myself poker is long, and if it took another year how big of a deal is that really? It allows me to enjoy the day-to-day a little more (i.e. not feeling bad if I'm skipping a session to go have fun, etc). |
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You should update more . I think for a) a lot of it is getting back to basing my reactions on how I played the hand, not the results. If I figured I was well ahead of the majority of his range but ran into the top of it, then I played good and next hand, rather than feeling like shit because I ran into the top of his range. I definately need to stop thinking about winning it back from the player who took it. Thats detrimental to my game. b) I think you touch on the right idea, and also the problem. Jyms was kind of the same. We've got plans already made for our money. For me, since my withdrawal I've literally kept a list of things I've bought that I would have bought with poker money if I had it, that I plan to pay back. I also have a mental list of things I plan to buy that I'm holding off until I get the money from poker. I think that weighs on my mind. I dont neccesarily want to scrap those plans and just play "in the now", but I've got to find a way of accepting that I'll get there when I get there and pushing too hard doesnt help, it hinders. |
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Shitty session. Started well, finished badly. Couple of crappy hands I'm not sure about so I'll post. Probably should have quit earlier rather than keep going when I wasnt feeling great. Hand 1 No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com BB ($45.35) Hero (UTG) ($60.30) Button ($123.20) SB ($241.72) Preflop: Hero is UTG with J , JHero bets $1.75, Button raises $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.25 Flop: ($12.75) 9 , 6, 2 (2 players)Hero bets $8, Button calls $8 Turn: ($28.75) 10 (2 players)Hero bets $18, Button raises $55, Hero calls $28.30 (All-In) I kind of felt like I priced myself in on turn, but c/c seems way too weak. Tbh I thought I had initiative on flop so didnt mean to donk deliberately. Probably an indication I should have quit before now. Villain is aggro (42, 31 with 8.5% 3-bet), has previously 3-bet me with AQo when I raised UTG and got all in with TP. Has pushed me off a couple pots earlier this session. Hand 2 No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com CO ($81.50) Button ($71.70) SB ($18.60) BB ($81.70) UTG ($55.60) Hero (MP) ($59.75) Preflop: Hero is MP with J , J1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, Button calls $1.75, SB raises $4.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, Button calls $3 Flop: ($14.75) 2 , 4, 9 (3 players)SB bets $13.85 (All-In), Hero calls $13.85, Button calls $13.85 Turn: ($56.30) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)Hero checks, Button bets $8.75, Hero calls $8.75 River: ($73.80) 6 (3 players, 1 all-in)Hero checks, Button bets $17.25, Hero calls $17.25 Total pot: $108.30 SB is 61/15 wtih 18% 3-bet over fairly small sample. Btn is 40/12 over small sample. Looks like he hates to fold but I cant remember knowing that at the time. I actually had a connection problem and timed out on turn which is why the turn check. Given I checked is c/c or c/shove better? Also PF given shorties 3-bet I called planning to call a lot of flop cbets, but should I just 4-bet the JJ to get it HU? |
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| More I look at those hands, the more I see I butchered them. Definately shows I should quit earlier if I'm losing concentration. | |||
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#1 Flop bet is too small for a wet board. Turn... yeah priced in, blah... #2 Weird hand. I iso-raise on the flop. Min-ish should be enough to tell whether he wants to see the river or not. We have to put him on a set to NOT commit on the flop. |
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Bored tonight so loaded up two tournies, a $2.20 Omaha and a $22 NLHE. About 50 players in the omaha but only 6 in the HE (hence why I played a $22, cant really fit that in as a real MTT but STT fits into BRM plan). Anyway, I won both because tonight I rock at poker! Won nearly $100 all up which was nice, probably about broke me even from my losses this morning. Nothing too exciting, although as I got the big (HOOGE!) stack in the omaha it made me wonder at what point do I just call a shove in the BB without looking at my cards (pot odds). I suspect its larger than HE, because I'm fairly sure I read that theres less gap PF between hands equity, but not sure. Didnt matter in the end, I ran super hot and had good-great hands every time from 3 handed down. Both tournies were weird in that both opponents just started shoving crap when they didnt need to. Last hand of the omaha he shove for only a few hundred chips over my raise with a 9 high unconnected hand. Just weird, but I'll take it. Guy in the HE tourney called my 12bb shove with 78s (hit a boat but I got it back soon enough). Anyway, fun to run well in donkaments, and definately a good idea if I really want to play poker but know my heads not really right. |
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| Another losing session, not sure whats up with this one. Thought I was actually winning then checked about 30 mins in and I was down. Just cold-decked a bit I think. Lots of c-bet/folds, lots of PF raises that got 3-bet and I folded, lots of calls with draws that missed, dont think I hit a single set, stuff like that. A few coolers along the way with AK called by K8 on KQ7 flop and turned an 8 by a bad player, AJ v's A5 on an A5Xtt flop v's a bad short player. Rivered straight v's flopped nut flush in 3-bet pot v's 70/40 who checked to river then bet, stuff like that. Just no good sized pots my way. Not too dissappointed about my play, just not happy with the results. | |||
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| Shitty, 3rd -$80 session in a row. Again felt I played ok, just not hitting anything. I checked, over my last 1500 hands I've hit 2 sets. Only 2 flushes and one of them I lost to a better one. Lost every all in where I've had below 60% equity. I dunno, I'll keep looking for good spots and try to only play when the heads right and hopefully get through. | |||
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Hand posting time. Slightly losing session saved only by AA actually getting paid a few times. Biggest 4 losers I was ahead on every one on flop. Gonna paste for thoughts: Hand 1 No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Button ($48) Hero (SB) ($59.75) Preflop: Hero is SB with K , 5Button calls $0.25, Hero checks Flop: ($1) 10 , Q, 5 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $1, Hero calls $1 Turn: ($3) 5 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $3, Hero raises $7, Button calls $4 River: ($17) 10 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $17, Hero calls $17 Total pot: $51 Pretty sure this was an easy c/f on river. Hand 2 No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com BB ($56.28) UTG ($51.60) MP ($123.15) CO ($52.45) Hero (Button) ($55.25) SB ($24.50) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 61 fold, MP bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold Flop: ($5.75) 7 , 8, 7 (3 players)SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4, 1 fold Turn: ($13.75) 10 (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB calls $9 River: ($31.75) 3 (2 players)SB bets $9.75 (All-In), Hero calls $9.75 Total pot: $51.25 This ones closer. Very bad player. Hand 3 No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com SB ($4) Hero (BB) ($80.65) UTG ($51.55) Button ($49.75) Preflop: Hero is BB with A , KUTG bets $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises $7, UTG calls $5.75, SB calls $2.25 (All-In) Flop: ($19) 7 , J, 3 (3 players, 1 all-in)Hero bets $8, UTG calls $8 Turn: ($35) 3 (3 players, 1 all-in)Hero checks, UTG bets $18.25, Hero folds River: ($35) J (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $35 Yes I was ahead in this one too. So shitty, but wtf who calls flop and bluffs turn with air there? How should I have played though? Hand 4 No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Hero (SB) ($70.90) Button ($43.75) Preflop: Hero is SB with K , QButton bets $1.25, Hero calls $1 Flop: ($3) 5 , Q, 2 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero calls $2 Turn: ($7) 6 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $4, Hero calls $4 River: ($15) 2 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $8, Hero calls $8 Total pot: $31 Opponent is a pretty bad TAG. |
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First two hands are so bad in review. Those $27 would have made it a profitable session if I'd folded rivers. Overall in general I think I need to fold more. Its something I was good at recently. Started floating a heap and stuff lately. |
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1. How could you have been ahead on the flop? Btw I call this river, too. A really stupid or stubborn Q might bet here. Ever see anyone move all in to find out where they were at? Same idea... 2. Turn commits you. It's a shitty spot and yes you can fold the river, but if there's any chance shorty is bluffing (and I think there is) than you can call. 3. Not a great spot to bluff an almost dry side pot without a read, but as played we all fold the turn. 4. I play kind of agro HU, but if you think he'll bluff a lot this is a really good line. All in all I think you're beating yourself up for no reason. |
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1. You're right, I was way ahead on turn though. 3. I was torn here, but I definately thought there was a very good chance he'd bet flop if I checked. I wasnt ahead here either, but he had AK also and a double barrel would have folded him, but I cant see how I could justify doing that. 4. I was torn, and definately raising here is fine (probably good). I expected 2 barrels out of him with his whole range though, and tried to give off timing that I was weak. His TPNK improved to a weak 2P on turn. Yeah, my head isnt good atm. It just feels like I keep getting outdrawn all the time. My EV is only a couple down, its pots like this where they catch up on me. Hand 2 shits me. He had 95o for a gutshot on flop and a 9 high FD on turn. I was about 90% on flop and 75% on turn. I just wonder if I'm calling when I'm likely beat too much. I dunno, maybe marginal spots that when I'm running good I win more often and just havnt lately. |
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| Da GOAT |
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pm me and ill go through hands with u 2m if u want. quick look and they are meh, dislike last HU hand. i 3bet flop |
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Oops, meant to try to find you for a sweat if you were up to it this morning (night for you), slept in a bit though. Good morning session, +3 buyins. Some sorta interesting spots though, gonna post a thread in the SH forum, might post some here also. God it feels good to both start hitting hands and getting paid on them. |
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Ben? Since our talk what has changed. Look into yourself and make sure your not falling right into the same ole'. It's only been a bit of time since so those habits are not ingrained and I have not seen too much posted about changes. what have you learned, watched or are doing differently. Again I ask, "What's the definition of Insanity?" |
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Thanks Jyms, I had a similar conversation with myself yesterday. The few days/week after we talked a lot was different, but I've slid. I think it has to do with tiredness. Last week I was getting to bed early, waking early and feeling great after a workout. This week I had a big weekend away and started staying up later, sleeping in, missing some workouts, etc. I still avoided playing bad tables late at night, but was playing decent tables when my head wasnt too good in the mornings (on the assumption that I couldnt miss the opportunity of playing the bad players). Same trap, different situation. Blinded by the fact that because I was doing one thing right (avoiding the bad time of day) I believed I was still on track. Also (god, this sounds even more familiar when I type it out) because I've been tired I stopped watching those vids after the second one as I didnt feel like I could concentrate. Man, thanks for the wakeup call Jyms. Then last night I had a big sleep and played well and won. Cards helped, but a fresh mind wouldnt have hurt either... |
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Thought I was right this morning, not a great nights sleep but not too bad. Went for a bike ride, enjoyed a nice breakfast. Played shocking though. Too many distractions (wife and son in background, tv going, etc). Lost two buyins. Thoughts on this hand? No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com UTG ($49) MP ($51.65) CO ($54.15) Hero (Button) ($68.50) SB ($41.50) BB ($17.90) Preflop: Hero is Button with 6 , 63 folds, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold Flop: ($4) 9 , 6, 10 (2 players)SB bets $0.50, Hero raises $4, SB calls $3.50 Turn: ($12) A (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7 River: ($26) K (2 players)SB checks, Hero... Villain has about $28 left. To me its a perfect example of why I lose money when I'm not thinking clearly. K is worst card in the deck, but I shove in hoping to get called by worse. I guess the real question though is whether a smaller bet is better, or just check behind? |
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So you put him on JQ only? You think you can b/f ??? I shove all day, he could have all kinds of 2 pair hands. |
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The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
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| His action screams a draw, and QJ is the most likely one. Unless he has like KT then 2P is unlikely based on actions. I probably cant b/f because even if I bet something like $9 and he shoves, then its only $19 to win $63 and I have a set. The question is more does shoving get called by enough of his hands that its more +EV than just betting $9 and getting called by his 1P hands. Also is betting at all +EV compared to just checking behind. | |||
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| dev |
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| I don't see how we have enough info NOT to bet this. He led minimum on the flop then called a raise and a smallish turn bet. His range is so wide that I'd bet like $10 hoping for some value. I'm certainly calling the shove that comes after, and I'm not feeling bad about it. | |||
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| oskar |
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In the absence of reads I think this could be pretty much any Ax hand (they're not always going to fold the flop you know)... A9, AT obviously... possibly even 2 pair on the flop or AK depending on AF. JQ is way too narrow imo, and b/f would be too much of a superstar move for me... My reads aren't that solid
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The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
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| Ok, thanks guys. Maybe I'm a bit results oriented on that one. I had two sets beaten by rivered draws in that session, one all in on flop and the other this one. Irritating. | |||
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Played 2 more sessions. I lol'd at the results from them so thought I'd share: Second session (so top session in SS) is easily the longest time and most hands I've ever played at once. Wasnt bad though, I felt good almost all the time. I did have a few minutes break to settle my son down when he woke about halfway through which may have helped also. Interesting, over 3 hrs and 1.8k hands of 8-tabling, I never dropped into the red and never got above 1 buyin up I dont think. Not much either side if I did (actually, may have got stacked very early then come back from it fairly quickly). At a quick look I dont hate many of my hands other than that early one. I might take DaGoat up on his offer to review a bunch of hands since theres a few marginal type ones. Mainly times I flop draws I think, might paste a few tomorrow, but for now its sleep time. Ended the day down about $15, not too bad after the shitty start this morning. |
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| bjsaust |
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Heres one interesting spot from last night for comment: 49/25 lagtard. 83% cbet. Fairly sure psb cbet is standard $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem 5 players Converted at weaktight.com Stacks: UTG ($74.65) CO ($39.64) BTN ($105.00) Hero (SB) ($55.65) BB ($50.00) Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is SB   1 fold, CO raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold Flop:    ($4, 2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $8 Turn:  ($28, 2 players)Hero ($41.90)? Villain has about a PSB behind. |
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| bjsaust |
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1.5hr session today. Basically break even (few $s up) but a buyin below EV. AK < AQ ai pre for a fullstack v's a guy I've been trying to get into just such a situation for weeks didnt help. I'm now down 4 buyins from ring for the month, but almost 3 buyins below EV so not so bad. Probably up over $100 in tourneys and cashed in $50 of bonus, so its not all bad. VPIP seems a little low over the last few k hands, which is strange because it feels like I'm playing the same range. Maybe its not quite as wide OTB as it used to be. Maybe its just the cards. [edit] No-one on msn, sad  .
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