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I don't think it sounds stupid at all, in fact it sounds normal. It's not exactly an alien concept to feel aggrieved when you do something right but it doesn't work out. Unfortunately poker is full of these situations, and just as we take a little solace from AIEV suggesting we're getting it in good, one of the big things that helped me was being able to critique my play regardless of result, and now I'm happier being able to identify that even if I run into the top of someone's range, the play itself is a good one. Hand 2 I'm definitely not suggesting fold, you're right his raise size is retarded and should by rights commit him, I think I'm just trying to emphasise the use of information even if it's only one previous hand for stacks. Hand 3, it's pretty lolworthy just what people will think they're potstuck with and semibluffcall or whatever you want to call clicking buttons and hoping. I don't think a c/r is bad here at all, but I think a c/c is decently better. On the basis of the strength of our redraws alone vs villain's range, I don't like c/f especially as there is still enough left behind to c/f the river if need be. On the subject of players who float and bet any turn checked to them, having had my soul owned by a few of those recently I've been giving thought on how to play vs them, with emphasis on some of the headcase 70/20s I've seen lately. One consideration I had was to almost only ever check a turn vs them if I was prepared to c/c turn and lead river or c/c turn and c/c river. Anything I wasn't prepared to check the turn with, such as too much value not to bet (or significantly drawy boards), or because my hand was too weak to c/c, anything I'm not prepared to c/f inc air (and I'm trying to make that c/f range as small as non-spewy vs these villains) would be barrelled on the turn and followed up on a lot of rivers (dry boards with a rivered broadway, wet boards with a blank river, etc). Before I start doing it I'm trying to assess whether this is viable or spewy, but I guess until I actually do it in practice the answer is "it depends". It seems a little like fighting fire with fire but it's working for the villains. This seemed to make a little more sense the first time I wrote it, thank you very much Firefox keyboard shortcuts  Hand 5 is the poker equivalent of a sack of puppies in a river. Soul crushing. |
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| Holyy batman, the swongs are still insane, but I seem to slowly get a grip on things again. I pretty much quit calling small PPs from the blinds unless its an UTG raise (I really wonder, why and when I began calling those in that spot). I also discovered how I massively screwed up a couple of big pots by playing weirdly passive. All three hands that triggered the investigation and thinking resulted in retarded beats nonethless, but I think I have fixed a leak. I have collected 15 hands with more or less detailed analysis as .doc, if anyone´s interested in reading and discussing those send me a pm. I bet at least one of will benefit from talking those thru. | ||
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| I booked a massive losing session today (once again) for -$227. Biggest winner being some TPTK vs a shortstack AI on turn for 52BB, losers include JJ < QT on KJ93tt for 160BB, AK<QQ and AQ<JJ pfai for 100BB and 88<AT on TT4A8 for 100BB. Its annoying, but what can you do? | ||
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| I am annoyed and irritated and just massively tilted off money. And by massively I mean only one stack. Gonna shovel some more snow now. | ||
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Everything I could post sounds perfetic even to myself. Since the beginning of November I have played 58k hands of 6max NL and PLHE on FT. Of those 42k hands were played at 50NL and I am a solid 5bb/100 loser over that sample. Yes, 5bb/100 over 40k, can´t be a sample issue, can it? I am asking that myself. Is it possible to swing that horrible or am I actually a retard who has been running good for the past 3 years? Over the entire sample since I got that FT account I am breaking even for 90k 50NL (17buy ins below AIEV), but have booked 57k hands of 1.5BB/100 100NL (4 buy ins above AIEV, evening out those 5 below on 100PL) Key stats 50NL 90k hands: 21 VPIP 18 PFR 2.75 AF 5.3% 3bet 27.3 WTSD 38.9 Steal% So there must be something terribly wrong with my game, but I can´t just spot it. Last ten times I got stacked: 7c8c < Ac4c on QdTc5c9c, 3bet pot me being the aggressor IP 55 < 67 on Ks5h6h6c7c, single raised pot, me being the pf raiser, bet flop, b/c turn, call river 22 < JJ on 2d5d7c4sJd AI on flop AA < AKs AIPF 44 < 75s on A3468 AI on turn KK < AA AIPF KdQh < 5s6s on 4sQsQd9s AI on turn 33 < QT on KT3J9 AI on turn JJ < QT on K95J3 AKs < QQ AIPF And all of those except the KQ are pretty much cooler situations everyone must be prepared for. And that´s pretty much the point: To lose 5bb/100 over 40k there must be something terribly wrong, I just can´t blame variance, can I? Given the dimensions there should be some painfully obvious flaws in my game, but I do completely fail to identify them and that´s what makes me feel really stupid. I had some friends and some helpful FTRers reviewing a set of hands and I didnt get a lolusuck feedback, when I come here to log a session I refuse to most of the times because posting coolers is retarded. Im either a pussy who can´t deal with variance or a master of denial. If somebody bothers to review my stats I might find out. |
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I was breaking even over 50k-ish hands on FT 50NL after cashing out and moving down after a downswing. If I had run particularly bad I could have easily had similarly bad results. In my case it was definitely: Not respecting the stakes. - I was playing 200NL for a while during the summer, and coming back to 50NL just a month later, I did not really care about the money, did not plan my sessions, and did not take regular breaks like I used to. That and using some autopilot lines I started using against 100/200 regs, that assumed a level of thinking by my opponents that just wasn't there. For example: Almost nobody balances anything. There's a reg with over 10k in 50NL winnings who always c/c donks his monster hands regardless of the board texture. Then there's another winning reg who c-bets 55%, and never continues to a bet after he checks and so on... and non regs... I mean, you know  As far as the games go, I feel like they haven't been that soft in a while. You should be destroying them. |
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Well, the last ten stacks lost look like coolers and suckouts. How are you doing in non-showdown pots? Big losses, break even, what? What about biggish pots where the full stack doesn't go in? Are you making a lot of river calls when villains get there? You're running stats that provide a good basis to be a winning player, but it's possible to turn that into breakeven or worse with bad calls or unnecessarily bloated pots you have to give up on. |
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Yea, those numbers alone won´t cut it. My non-SD pots are a consistent loser. I have been looking into that a while ago and I´m trying to lift the red line by calling less from the blinds and picking wiser spots to 3b in position. I am not aggressive enough in 3bet pots and think that Im generally a wee bit to tight vs flop raises and check raises in spots like #1. For the nonSD losses Im blaming me playing too many tables, my turn and river ranges being too tight/Im not picking good spots to exploit weak ranges and most important me table selecting well. The games in general are soft and more to the point are showdown games - I do make money off fish who call too much and nits who fold their blinds a lot and don´t put any pressure on me isolating the poor players. As I said before, in biggish non AI pots Im on the tight side if anything. I filtered for river calls a while ago and was breaking even or slightly up on those hands where I call a river bet or raise. Im double barreling not too much and do very very rarely triple barrel at my current stakes. Im taking a bet - check - bet line for value most of the time and have it looked up fairly light by the less experienced players and even many regs dont quiet take that line for what it is. I could improve my red line by taking a weaker range to SD, but given how passive the games play I dont see any merit in doing so. Relevant numbers: 5.3% 3bet (rather low isn´t it?) 18% call 3bet 5.6% squeeze 26.2 WTSD (I really have little idea about this number) 54.2% W$SD (seems kinda high) 43.6% W$WSF 60% flop cbet 34.8% turn cbet 51% fold flop vs raise 50% fold to cbet 40% steal (All numbers correspond to 90k 50nl 6max with 22/18 preflop stats) |
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| Variance is insane. Without playing great or anything I made 12 buy ins over the past two days/3k hands. It´s sick as I can´t really give myself credit for that, I just ran good. I sucked out once QQ < AA pfai, won a couple of flips and caught funny hands when I 3bet suited junk. I´m glad I set up the hands-posting-bootcamp with kmind yesterday, b/c I tend to be very lazy when Im running okay. | ||
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You mentioned that you tend to use bet/check/bet as a value line, perhaps there's a lot of pots you're giving up on because of how you interpret your games. I think the As2s hand (no. 6) from your blog with kmind is as close as I've seen so far to you taking a line that puts you in a shitty enough spot to fold and lose a decent sized pot. Obv we have to fold that river, but we get into that situation by playing passively/trying to bluff catch, I guess my red line is generally pretty decent because I'd be trying to get that in on a wet flop vs a player who has quite likely learnt to call bullshit against me. Yeah, I mean, if your game is showdown-orientated your red line can definitely suffer. It then becomes a matter of whether the showdown game is significant enough to generate strong profit after non-showdown losses. It's also possible there's hands you play as bet/check/bet that would be better served as bet/bet/bet? It gets easy to kind of default to a certain way of playing and applying it too generally. Are you on a Euro site or FT? |
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Well it seems like the number of tables has a bigger impact on my red line than I suspected. I cut it down to four for the recent sessions and had my red line almost breaking even. Overall I am quiet happy with my pokers lately. I played a session with a friend on friday and it was good to sit together and play some and discuss some. For my own game things had turned around as I had a decent streak the past week, today kinda sucked donkey balls running 8 buy ins below AI ev in 1.3k hands. Im gonna make a post in the tilt section in a minute, although Im not really tilted, Im just gonna post for hilarity and to encourage everyone else who running like dog crap. I made a few tiny adjustements to my game and so far it works out well. Things like cbetting more, calling less from the blinds, 3betting more in position, not 3betting from SB, not being a nit in 3bet pots seems to have some merits. Also, with less tables I can attempt to read a hand more detailed and steal some more turn and rivers (which ends up in terribad spew most of the time, hence the red line improvements). And Dex, I´m playing on FT. |
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