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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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haha yeah I'd be down for that but it would have to be some kind of hours played format tho because i only play 6-7 tables. I saw u playing 12 today haha. I would probz only wanna risk like half a buyin as well coz ima nit
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rpm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: learnin'
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well my goal will be 7.5k vpp's. you make your own up. amount of hands/hours/vpp's, whatever. just make it something that you will actually have to work a bit more than average to attain. $25 sounds fine. bit of potential extra rakeback on the month for the winner.
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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haha alright how about 70 hours of 50nl for me? minimum of 6 tables. What happens if we both pass our goals?
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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also i've been watching this before sessions heaps to get hyped for the grind
YouTube - ‪I AM NANONOKO - A Short Film by PokerStars Team Online (HD)‬‏
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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Day 2 of June goals and I already broke one!   lol well sort of, it wasn't really my fault. Basically I was grindin and my best mates girlfriend calls me to vent or w/e and made me read some comments on this photo on facebook it was pretty lol situation i was trying to read it talk to her and got to the flop with QQ and KK on 2 tables, looking back my rushed decisions were ok. I managed to sit out after that so it's all good.
I have a new goal now of
[ ] play 70 hours this month
if rpm accepts. I think I'll add this as well
[ ] not check cashier or graph until 30th June & try to avoid seeing sessional results
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rpm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: learnin'
Posts: 2,041
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if we both make it, no money changes hands and we've hopefully both added 1ptbb to our winrates by putting in a solid month of grinding/study as a result of this bet.
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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been grindin it out sticking to my goals not much to report really. Here's a hand from yesterday.
Villain is 14/10, 71% cbet flop (5/7) (173 hands) he is repping supernova and playing 20+ tables
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
SB: $55.95
BB: $38.90
UTG: $53.60
MP: $52.50
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $74.30
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 2 2
fold, MP raises to $1.50, fold, Hero calls $1.50, fold, fold
Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) 6 A 5
MP bets $2.50, Hero raises to $7.50, MP calls $5.00
I think he's cbetting almost all his range almost all the time here. I think he folds everything to a raise but AA, 55,66 65s and AQ AK might float 1 street.
Turn: ($18.75, 2 players) 9
MP checks, Hero bets $13.00,
def should be able to let go of AK AQo here, How spewy is this line?
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rpm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: learnin'
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prefer it with 87,79,89 or a backdoor flush draw.
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,109
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hate this line...whats your flop cbet raise % and do you have a significant amount of hands with him? what are you repping here? 55/66 almost soley...are you calling pre with 65s (only 2 combos) here?, surely you arent raising AK/AQ for value. You can develop some sick meta where you are able to...but im not sure thats the case here....also like RPM said this play is going to be a shitload more profitable if you actually have some equity.
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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I'm new to making moves like this so don't hold back on flaming if i say retarded things, tough love is much appreciated.
I have 173 hands on him. My raise flop cbet is 12.85% that seems kinda high i guess i don't know anything about interrupting this stat tho. I wouldn't flat 65s here vs this villain. I am solely trying to rep a set. I feel like because hes playing so many tables he is slightly less likely to think i'm making a move he probably views me as my stats are a 13/11 nit and has no reason to think I don't have it here.
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Penneywize
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chatzilla
I'm new to making moves like this so don't hold back on flaming if i say retarded things, tough love is much appreciated.
I have 173 hands on him. My raise flop cbet is 12.85% that seems kinda high i guess i don't know anything about interrupting this stat tho. I wouldn't flat 65s here vs this villain. I am solely trying to rep a set. I feel like because hes playing so many tables he is slightly less likely to think i'm making a move he probably views me as my stats are a 13/11 nit and has no reason to think I don't have it here.
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I like the line, just not a huge fan of bluffing with zero equity where we rep like one combo
Yes you do look like you have a set, flatting pre, raising flop etc, but you are literally repping 6/12 combos and some villains will have a hard time letting go of AJ+ here. Your raise otf looks quite a bit like a bluff raise against a standard cbet.
Are you barreling river if you get called on turn?
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,109
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chatzilla
I'm new to making moves like this so don't hold back on flaming if i say retarded things, tough love is much appreciated.
I have 173 hands on him. My raise flop cbet is 12.85% that seems kinda high i guess i don't know anything about interrupting this stat tho. I wouldn't flat 65s here vs this villain. I am solely trying to rep a set. I feel like because hes playing so many tables he is slightly less likely to think i'm making a move he probably views me as my stats are a 13/11 nit and has no reason to think I don't have it here.
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i meant is it in your range preflop when you cold call his open....also, he is going to have so few draws that can suck out on you that i would be flatting most of my sets here and plan on raising the turn, when i get raised on this board by someone with a decent flop raise cbet over a significant sample i wuold not buy it.
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,109
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@ penney= how 12? he reps like 6 combos of sets and 2 combos of 65, i doubt he raises AK here but i guess ill let him tell us if he does or not. And most of those hands would try and slow play at least 1 street because its such a harmless board.
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Penneywize
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 885
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I have been playing lots of omaha lately and sort of forgot how to count combos. yeah I meant 6 not 6-12
and yeah, the dry board does make it less likely we would raise with a set v a standard cbet. prolly just call and hope he barrels
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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sorry i forgot to say in my first response no i wouldn't do this with AK, AQ here. If he calls my turn barrel I would give up thinking he's not letting go of AK AQ AJ, Penny if we call and he barrels are you raising turn or trying to get to sd thinking he will check the river?
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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Alrighty so basically the last 3 days have been hectic, finishing up my course for the semester, celebrating and run a fuckload of erins so I haven't played any poker. BUT now I have 2 months pure holidays to GRIND GRIND GRINDzz
All my goals are still on track I've played 18 hours of 50nl so far this month so a bit behind but I anticipated that with finishing up at uni. I haven't checked cashier or any sessions as well so no idea how I'm running lol I assume I'm winning but its been kinda swingy. Also my jogging goals are ok as well I have jogged 8 times so far and it seems to be getting easier each time. I'm gonna grind up a storm today. I might post a couple hands in a sec.
Also here's the music video I made from uni if anyone is interested
YouTube - ‪Choppin' - Mixwell‬‏
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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Villain is a break even nit at 50nl 11/10 (over 4k hands)
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
MP+1: $21.65
LP: $66.95
CO: $76.95
BTN: $94.50
Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $20.75
UTG: $50.75
UTG+1: $73.35
MP: $52.35
Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has A A
fold, fold, fold, fold, LP raises to $1.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4.00, fold, LP calls $2.50
Flop: ($8.50, 2 players) 4 9 Q
Hero bets $5.50, LP calls $5.50
Turn: ($19.50, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $11.50, LP raises to $52.00
When he just goes out and jam's like this I think he is telling us he doesn't have the flush because I doubt he would play AcKc like this OTT but could be leveling myself we need
28.9% to call { 29/(29+71.5) }
{KcKd,KcKh,KcKs,QQ,99,AcKc,AcJc,AcQd,AcQh,AcQs} 34.1%
{KcKd,KcKh,KcKs,QQ,99,AcQd,AcQh,AcQs} 39.8%
seemed really marginal at the time do you think my range is reasonable I can't see how KcKx and AcQx wouldn't do this
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rpm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: learnin'
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what's his fold to 3bet? there's a good chance he doesn't get to the flop with AQo (note: resultant exploitability to 3b bluffs in this spot)
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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80% (94/118) pretty wide thats why i included 99 as well
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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also his 4bet + is 7% (9/128)
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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ALSO btw its your mate long90110
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rpm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
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ahh, old mate longy. yeah i think we do have to call here. but it's one of those really nit-picky spots where if you remove one or two combos from his range it changes from a close call to an easy fold. so i could be off.
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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yeah usually these spots don't come up super often but lately I've been getting heaps of them I'm scared I'm misplaying AA a little
villain is 14/8 3% 3bet (1/32), 100% fold to 3bet (6/6), (over 106 hands)
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
MP: $59.35
MP+1: $25.00
LP: $20.00
CO: $20.00
Hero (BTN): $61.45
SB: $50.00
BB: $50.00
UTG: $19.25
UTG+1: $51.00
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has A A
fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP raises to $2.25, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.50, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $4.25
dont know much about this dude so his range could be JJ-KK maaaybe AK AQs but probz a lot less likely
Flop: ($14.25, 2 players) 8 5 3
MP checks, Hero bets $8.00, MP calls $8.00
Turn: ($30.25, 2 players) Q
MP checks, Hero bets $17.50, MP raises to $42.50
His range is super duper weighted to QQ now but I guess it is possible for him to take this line with KK thinking I have AQ and now he can safely get paid or thinking I have AdKd and am commited.So I can't see how I can ever fold now only needing 21.7% { 25/(25+90.25) }
if he only has QQ-KK we crush him with 65.1% equity
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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heres another lameish spot
don't know much about villain, he runs 14/8 over (83 hands) haven't seen him 3bet yet 0/26.
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
UTG: $92.25
MP: $18.40
Hero (CO): $50.75
BTN: $28.05
SB: $50.00
BB: $20.00
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has K K
fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, SB raises to $4.75, fold, Hero calls $3.25
obv not folding. We haven't seem him 3bet bluff but defz is still capable if we 4bet he is probz shipping AA KK and maybe flatting QQ or AKs but thats about it i think. We can keep his range way wider by flatting.
Flop: ($10.00, 2 players) 5 4 Q
SB bets $7.60, Hero calls $7.60
pretty valuey looking bet but still can be cbetting with his 3bet bluff so we can't really ever fold still i think
Turn: ($25.20, 2 players) 5
SB bets $16.80,
we don't know anything about his barreling tendencies so I think we have to get him credit for AA-QQ? I guess he could have A5s or AdXd sometimes but i think we can justify folding by lack of info on villain?
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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Played like 3.5 hours today pretty happy with how I played. I've never been more tempted to check cashier or PT3 beacuse I've been RUNNING LIKE GOD but I feel like not checking if defz helping me not winners tilt
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philly and the phanatics
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,109
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4bet in the KK hand...if you ever plan on 4bet bluffing you need to have value hands in there as well...also people stack off surpisingly lightly in these spots where your ranges are already wide imo.
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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Yeah that does make a lot of sense I guess 0/26 tilted me which is obv wrong.
Heres one more hands with our mate long90110 11/10 (4.3k hands)
I don't really like how I played this at all felt pretty gross.
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
MP: $64.30
MP+1: $27.30
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $59.60
SB: $56.45
BB: $88.50
UTG: $46.75
UTG+1: $25.20
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has 3 A
UTG calls $0.50, fold, MP calls $0.50, MP+1 calls $0.50, fold, Hero calls $0.50, fold, BB checks
His VPIP and PFR are pretty close together so when he limped along I'd assume his range is way more weighted to PP's then SC's
Flop: ($2.75, 5 players) 7 7 6
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $2.00, fold, Hero calls $2.00, BB calls $2.00, fold
I think flatting flop with players behind is fine, don't want to bloat the pot or blow out the fish UTG
Turn: ($8.75, 3 players) 5
BB checks, MP bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50, fold
I guess we could raise here ( player behind us is 15/13 (400 hands) )
Raiser's range here is pretty much all continuing doubt he has any bluff's maybe like 8d8x but that probably about it I'd say something like
{ 8c8d,8d8h,8d8s,77-66,QdJd,JdTd,Td9d,9d8d,7c6c,7h6h,7s6ss }
there aren't too many bad river cards for us apart from another D might not get us paid as easily or much and block some of his Flush combos
River: ($19.75, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero bets $9.50, MP raises to $56.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $42.10 and is all-in
I bet for value because in the moment I thought he could have more then 6 Flush combos, but hindsight's a bitch
37.1% to call river
his range for check bombing is the same -8d8x
{ 77-66,QdJd,JdTd,Td9d,9d8d,7c6c,7h6h,7s6s } which we have 30% against
The main thing that tilts me this entire hand is wtf does he perceive my range to be specially if he has 9d8d I can't really have any worse flushes and I either have quads or a boat. I think just checking or calling a reasonable sized bet on the river would be 1201382x better
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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So yesterday I lost like 4bi's really close together and it titled me pretty hard. i quit playing almost right away being in my lame ass titled state I checked my monthly results so far... Which titled me waaayy more because I wasn't doing as well as I was expecting. I didn't want to think about poker at all after that for the rest of the day. So now today is the first day of the rest of my life... lol. I feel pretty good today, just looking over my loosing hands from yesterday now to ease or create some doubt in my game.
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
SB: $50.00
BB: $20.00
UTG: $19.70
UTG+1: $44.45
Hero (MP): $56.20
MP+1: $50.00
LP: $30.00
CO: $50.00
BTN: $100.35 ------------- 35/18 (11 hands) seems fishy
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has K A
UTG calls $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, LP calls $2.50, fold, BTN calls $2.50, fold, fold, UTG calls $2.00
Flop: ($10.75, 4 players) A 4 3
UTG checks, Hero bets $7.50, fold, BTN raises to $97.85 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $46.20 and is all-in
I open larger pre because UTG+1 is a fish and will pay. I only need 41.8% to call villain seem pretty silly and capable of doing this with AK,AQ but maybe I have overvaluing my fish read.
vs { 44-33,AQs+,A4s-A3s,AQo+ } we have 47.2% equity
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
MP: $20.45 --------- 71/37 (35 hands)
Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $52.25
SB: $30.25
BB: $50.00 -------------- 13/11, 0% 3bet (0/50), 43% ATS (6/14), 0% raise steal, (126 hands)
UTG: $169.75
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has K K
fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, BB raises to $6.00, MP calls $5.50, Hero raises to $20.50, BB raises to $50.00 and is all-in, MP calls $14.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $29.50 and is all-in
wtf is BB's range? when he 5bet jam's? KK+ ? AK, KK+? AK, QQ+?
I am really bad at playing KK vs nits and tag's can I ever take another line here? I don't see any other options
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
MP+1: $51.85
CO: $52.20
BTN: $50.85
SB: $50.60
BB: $32.70
UTG: $41.40 -----------33/11 (27 hands)
Hero (UTG+1): $50.75
MP: $114.95
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has K K
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.50
Flop: ($4.75, 2 players) 4 5 2
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG calls $3.75
He can be floating pretty damn wide here imo
Turn: ($12.25, 2 players) J
UTG checks, Hero bets $8.50, UTG calls $8.50
could of picked up a J or some FD equity, SD's, TT probably floats and QQ, sets and A3s
River: ($29.25, 2 players) 2
UTG checks, Hero bets $19.50, UTG calls $19.50
The board pairing doesn't change a whole lot for us no 2's are in his range part from quads. I like we can still thinly value be to get value from AJs, KJs, QJs, QQ
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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I feel I played well today... back on track 
also I love degenerate gamblorz so much
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
UTG: $20.00
UTG+1: $51.10
Hero (MP): $50.00
MP+1: $50.00
LP: $88.55
CO: $50.00
BTN: $55.00
SB: $26.00
BB: $55.60
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has Q Q
fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $4.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $3.50, UTG+1 raises to $7.00, Hero raises to $17.00, fold, UTG+1 raises to $27.00, Hero raises to $50.00 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $23.00
Flop: ($104.25, 2 players) 2 7 J
Turn: ($104.25, 2 players) 3
River: ($104.25, 2 players) T
UTG+1 shows 6 5 (High Card, Jack)
Hero shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)
Hero wins $101.25
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Shotglass
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: feelin' allright
Posts: 733
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^^ luv it, roflmfao
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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[ x ] Maintain goldstar
Played ~40 hours so far this month so I need to average 3 hours a day the next 10 days to make it which is attainable for sure. I've almost played 20k hands as well. As for my not checking cashier i'm been failing a bit lately but I'll get back to not checking as of now.
Villain is a life loser running 26/18 over 1k hands and he calls 3bets wide IP and OOP his call 3bet is 20% (12/59) and 4bet is 2% (1/63)
PokerStars - $0.50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
UTG+1: $50.00
MP: $65.05
MP+1: $23.50
LP: $38.80
CO: $50.00
BTN: $51.55
Hero (SB): $52.85
BB: $50.00
UTG: $52.50
Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has A A
fold, UTG+1 raises to $2.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, UTG+1 calls $4.00
Flop: ($12.50, 2 players) T A 8
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks
I don't really know how i feel about checking here. At the time I did it because he has proven to be a bit of a spaz and we absolutely cripple the board if we weren't blocking the nut flush Ad I would almost always bet I think.
Turn: ($12.50, 2 players) K
Hero bets $7.50, UTG+1 raises to $21.00, Hero raises to $46.85 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $23.00 and is all-in
The king is a pretty good card for us because AK and KK and now stacking off. I think KK he would sometimes 4bet pre and AK wouldn't really check behind again the flop, he is kind retarded tho his range is probably {KK,TT,88,AKs,ATs,QJs,AKo} which we kill.
even { TT,88,ATs,QJs } we are still way ahead
anyway obv he had QJs but just curious as to what you guy think the best way to get max value out of this hand
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rpm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: learnin'
Posts: 2,041
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hey dude. just stopping by to let you know that if you hit your 70 (?) hours then you will win the prop outright. i've only played something like 12k hands this month so there's no chance of a chop. gogogogogoggo
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Sasquach991
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rat Cheer
Posts: 1,012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chatzilla
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No love for the video?
 
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"Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"
Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 360
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Haha cheers man.
Well basically I've been blowing it as of late.
Here's my ugly ass June graph

all 50nl
as for my goals
[ ship ] play more then 20k hands at 50nl
[ ship ] Maintain goldstar
[ completed with minor exceptions ] Firefox can never be open during a session
[ ship ] No eating during a session (chips ect)
[ FAILED horribly ] The only things you can look at mid session are pokerstars lobby and PT3 amount of hands played no session winnings or time or graph lol
[ failed ~48 hours played ] play 70 hours this month
[ FAILED horribly ] not check cashier or graph until 30th June & try to avoid seeing sessional results
Things started out alright I was putting in lot's of volume 8 tabling not checking cashier everything was fine. About 2/3's of the way there I had a pretty bad session and I broke my rule and checked PT this tilted me so hard because I wasn't doing as well as I had thought I'd been... losing not winning ldo. Then every time a reg put me in a tough spot I'd doubt everything I've ever achieved. After tilt quitting like 3 sessions in a row I would not play for a few days come back to it feeling fresh, then the exact same thing happens... I tilt quit and take some more days off. After doing that a few more times over a 2 week period I took a solid week off and now I'm back with a stable mind. I'm gonna play 25nl until i get more confidence back to play 50nl I think I need to study and review lots more to ease the doubt.
Anyway keep on truckin...
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05-26-2012, 03:08 PM Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
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According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...
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