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revolvingiris

09-02-2009, 09:49 PM

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Ok, so my new thing is 180 mans only. I play at least 40 a day and I play for 6 hours.

Sept 1. Went great, had a pretty good day with only a few mistakes.

Sept 2. Terrible day...Either everyone was at the top of their range or I was card dead. Then to make it worse I made bad plays deep and I deff could have made more than I did today. Lesson learned: Be fucking patient and stop calling AI's so wide. A2s and A6o are not good hands!

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09-02-2009, 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by revolvingiris

i feel like you still make too many wide, sweeping generalizations and are still too results oriented

derp

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09-02-2009, 10:41 PM

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yeah + 1 to sweeping generalizations. don't forget you'll have pot odds to call anything all in at times etc. just focus on their range, no more blanket statements!

"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."

Check out my blog here!

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09-08-2009, 09:41 PM

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I get locked up in "looking at things as a whole" and forget sometimes that not all things need to be like that. Its time to dig deeper into the rabbit hole to get better.

Last general consensus ill ask

The better you get, the more you need to focus harder and find smaller and smaller problems?

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09-08-2009, 10:25 PM

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Yeah I think you may be right about that. I have some reasoning but don't feel like explaining here.

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09-10-2009, 01:10 AM

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good enough, yes or no is fine

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09-10-2009, 01:54 AM

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Tomorrow begins part 2 of my grinding 180's for the month. I am trying hard to just stick to the $12 and see how well I do. I splurged a little yesterday and played some regular MTTs which I prob wont do again.

I have learned a little something about grinding. Holy shit is this not as easy as I thought. I play 8-12 180's at a time while still being able to get reads on people but when I am done my brain is fried! 6-8 hours of this can be a redic metal work out! Tomorrow I am going to try and hit the 70 played in one day mark which will be a new record for me. I also have to work on the little things! Make good general decisions and then study the microscopic later!

As a side note, variance is gross in these but its fun to watch it come and go. Its kind of weird but you can like see and feel it while its going on. Kind of cool though, volume > variance.

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09-11-2009, 02:41 AM

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So this month started out great. Shit sucks now...fuck poker and oh yeah, my life.

What sucks is that I'm not good enough to be able to tell if its me fucking up or variance or both. This can be such a gross game.

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09-11-2009, 03:01 AM

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Insufficient sample size. Please play another few thousand games, ty

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09-12-2009, 12:42 AM

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its hard to play thousands of the 180 mans but I am working on it. Down swings like this usually dont happen so its pretty gross as I am way better than average at these.

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09-12-2009, 01:43 AM

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Did I mention I had a 18ish buyin 'downswing' at cash yet I'm still a winner?

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09-12-2009, 01:55 AM

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or how about making it to a final table with a gross chip lead to then loose a 3 outer and then MISCLICK your tourney away? Yeah pretty fucking rocking day. I'm going to go blow my brains out now.

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09-12-2009, 02:58 AM

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Sir I have experienced it all with MTT's+cash in terms of running bad/playing bad/misclicking/tilting/spewing/2 outered/1 outered in 3bet pots/runner runner this that etc - but so has everyone else. There's really nothing you can do but keep playing and eventually you'll become desensitized to getting your ass raped and be able to brush it off easier.

Increase your study/play ratio for the time being in favor of study since you're probably less likely to play your A game in this state of mind and you likely have a shorter tolerance for losing at the moment.

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09-13-2009, 04:53 AM

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Prob super good advice...it just sucks as this month I was testing how much volume I could put in to see if pro status was do able...my dreams shot right the fuck down.

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09-13-2009, 05:26 AM

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You know what's funny, this month I was also testing how much volume I could put in to see if 'pro status' was doable. My graph looks worse than yours, I'm up about $100, and there is a very, very large dip. I decided to forget the volume goal (100k hands of cash) altogether and focus on something else.

There's something I should mention though, my dreams aren't shattered - and neither should yours.

I'm spending wayyyyy more time studying than I am playing, I sugguest you do the same. Just figure out what your leaks are, how you can improve. Work your ass off, and move up faster - playing less volume and thinking/studying more.

Once you get to higher stakes you'll manage to be able to bring in decent money without having to put in excessive volume - although I do know for MTT players and the variance you have to go through putting in a ton of volume is definately a priority (I think?). Focus on quality first though, worry about grinding 1000 tournaments a month or whatever the figure may be when you've reached that point where you know your game.

Come to IRC or something, if you wanna chat about this stuff shoot me a PM or whatever.

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09-13-2009, 11:35 AM

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^ what micro said

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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09-13-2009, 11:42 AM

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I think a good mindset to have is "the best players have the smallest and the shortest downswings"
Then you can always say if I get better I won't have to deal with this shit anymore

But it's also nice to know if you put in a shitton of volume every month you'll never have a losing month unless you run ungodly bad

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09-13-2009, 09:45 PM

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09-13-2009, 09:48 PM

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Does this qualify as running grossly bad?

Micro as always you give great advice. I should study a TON more than I do. So I guess thats what I am going to be focusing on. Ill jump into the IRC more, I need it!

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09-13-2009, 09:54 PM

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No you're just playing bad.

But yeah running like shit probably has something to do with it, the combination of running bad + playing bad will typically result in losing alot of money.

Now is where we take a few days off and study.

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09-14-2009, 06:59 AM

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Yeah, thanks for kicking my ass

. Im not going to play again until wed. Should give me enough time to think things over and study new concepts.

Ive been focusing on trying to learn combinations so I can quickly apply them in game. I posted a thread in the beginners circle where I went over 4 hands just kind of figuring stuff out.

I also heard a very interesting thought today when I was reading a tilt post. The quote went like this; "I used to think that I would just get bad beat-ed a ton. I would see these players playing TPGK fast against other players and then I would always lose with AK or better. What I finally realized was that my overly tight image caused players to tighten their ranges against me".

Some very good food for thought.

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09-15-2009, 05:28 AM

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So I was going to start a new blog today. One full of positive remarks, poker concepts, and anything else that a winning player would post. However, I think I am going to just keep one going. I want to be able to look back on this blog at the end and see the transformation I went threw as a player. I think there will be plenty of positive revelations plenty of players can relate so. So this blog for me will be the only one.

I had a revelation about down swings over the last 24 hours. First I will start out by saying this. I am a very NOW person. When I want things I want them now and I will do anything I can to get that thing. So when I have a great beginning of the month and then a big down swing I keep playing over and over and over trying to figure out what it is that changed. I almost become obsessive compulsive about my losses. This is something that I am working on but it has been very hard.

So this last week or so I have been getting KILLED. I bet I have lost more 80-20's, 70-30's than I ever have in my life all in one week-ish. Now this last Sunday, I was beaten up so much my entire body was numb. I mean I felt like I was punched so many times that all I could do was sit like a robot and shove AI...Then all of a sudden it all went away. I have no idea what it was or why it happened.

All the pressure was lifted off me and I could feel everything. It seriously was like I broke threw a door and all the tilt was basically left behind me. It was one of the weirdest experiences of my life. Since then I have wanted nothing more than to jump right back into the game and play. I took today off as I needed it to study and what not. But tomorrow will be a great day whether I win or lose. I know I will be clear and ready to make amazing decisions.

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09-30-2009, 09:51 PM Post subject: dumb month

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So here is the graph for my month. It actually went pretty terrible. I usually run 30% ROI in 180s and I ran half that this month. My luck adjusted is off as well and is MUCH higher than that. I also got to end the month on a down swing so yay me.

Here are the numbers:

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10-02-2009, 09:45 PM

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I just received this in my PS email:

Hello revolvingIRS,

Congratulations on your performance in the MTT TLB for September. You have also been issued with a ticket to the Monthly TLB Top 1000 $20,000 Freeroll, which will take place on October 11 at 15:00 ET. The tournament will be deployed in the client in the next couple of days.

If you have any questions regarding your prize or the MTT TLB, please let us know.

WEEEEEE, I didnt even know I was close to it

revolvingiris

10-04-2009, 11:13 PM

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http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...le-t89564.html

I wrote a MTT walk through for anyone looking to move past the micros. Its not an easy one to follow but IMO you will get the most ouf of it doing things the way I wrote them. Its how I would have done it if I could have gone back...I should have entered it into the FTR competition but it was over before I was able to finish this. I hope it helps someone out

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10-18-2009, 08:31 AM

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Just an epic fail...19 players left of a $11 6max and I'm in 5th place. Instead of playing smart poker and picking my spots. I chose to be a spazzy spewtard and lose 1/3rd my stack. Then lose A9<A2 then shove short stacked K6s into A7o bvb. Over all I want to hang myself for a puke of $90 and 16th place. God this game is sick, especially when its your fault. FML

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10-31-2009, 06:04 PM

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I'm very excited for next month. I have a decent bankroll and for the first time I feel like I have somewhat of a grip on my game. I had a deep run in the daily 30k this last week or so and finally busted in 12th to a coin flip. Good run considering most of my time has been devoted to grinding 180s. My goal from now till the end of this year is to be able to comfortably 20 table, currently 14.

Also on a small note, I finally understand variance. Which is a huge gain for me as it has always been a big, giant question mark. The more games you play the more you begin to understand how poker really works. Even though I am just being a push bot there are still tons of things to learn.

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11-23-2009, 09:38 PM

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Its been a little while since I have updated. My head is so much more level now that is was a month ago. I think that the newb thought process in terms of tilt has been mostly eliminated and the numbers are getting easier to recognize. I had a HUGE downswing this month that lasted 1/3rd of my over all sample (but then I realized that stats don't matter). I was really worried that I was doing something different until I checked my cEV adjusted..lol I ran like shit. Ill end on this thought:

Poker is long term but what does that really mean? The game of poker is a constant. It is always there but never changes. Whether it be MTT, SnG, or Cash the numbers never change in terms of equity. Equity will always be equity. We choose when to jump into the game and when to jump out. Here is a better example to illustrate what I mean.

You multi and have 6 games going in front of you. 2 things happen, little things and global things. Little things like opponent reads happen and big things like shoving AA is unexploitable (just examples). These things are universal, meaning they are the same on all tables. You will always be able to make unexploitable plays and villain reads. So really, even though you have 6 games going at once you really have 1 game going called your "session".

Each game you play nothing more than an investment you are making during your session. Its almost like jello. If you mix a whole bunch of jello together, you really just end up with more jello. Poker seems to have the same effect. Now think of your jello filled with money. Only each individual small jello piece has a certain $ amount in it. When you shove it all together is where your profits come from.

This seems pretty abstract but I don't want to delete it all. I hope someone gets the message in there

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11-24-2009, 01:42 AM

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ehhh making progess.

good stuff.

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06-16-2010, 05:22 PM Post subject: Updates...

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I have chosen to bring this back but hopefully in a more interesting way. My thought process is very different now from when I first started this blog. I don't know who would do it but if you ever go from start to finish you can see a progression. On to the updates:

1) I had to stop playing to finish up a film project I had been working on. It took way more time then I thought but in the end I am happy I did.

2) Around the same time a close relative of mine had to have open heart surgery and it didn't go the smoothest. He resulted in being in a coma for 2 weeks and his body was refusing to work on its own. He eventually came out of it to then get pneumonia. All is well now but this was a difficult time.

3) After both of these situations so much time had gone by that I basically spent my roll on living and expenses I hadn't accounted for. Luckily I was able to find some really cool backers who are also very good players. I switched over to FTP so I could take advantage of rackback and now I'm just going through the motions of building back up again.

My dedication to poker is stronger now then it was before and my game has improved a ton. I am becoming more and more interested in investing and poker seems like a really great way to learn the basics (and sometimes more advanced) with a smaller amount of money.

Well thats really it and I am excited to be back

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06-17-2010, 02:05 AM

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Just finished building my new grinding workspace. All thats left is to try and hide some of the ugly ass cables.

Monitor on left is 22" 1620x1080, right is 28" 1920x1200

The original idea was to tile 16 tables with just a little overlap but I stack now. Either way I love it!

with 16 tables tiled:

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06-18-2010, 02:15 AM

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FML...I was having a great session today until I got nailed with a tornado warning and had to cut it short. I usually play 70 games a day at least but was only able to get like 50 something in. Going to have to grind like crazy this weekend to make up for lost time. Good thing I have nothing better to do

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