kickass...i want to be a winner.

didnt play later, played today still sucked lost 30 dollar. I dont know how to beat these tight 3 bet loving regs seems like im being outplayed all day. Has there ever been a JTx board that these guys dont reraise you on. I have no idea what a good calling 3 bet range is no idea how to play even semi well in 3 bet pots no idea how to win with AA if it doesnt go all in pre no idea how to defend my blinds well no idea what the fuck im doing oop no idea what peoples real ranges are to know if my play is +ev. I only know something was decent when i win and that only seems to be with near nut hands.

mardy rant over. start agin tomorrow

well not being very good and have a massive losing streak is crushing to soul and roll. down 5 buy ins today. lucky I moved down eh. all month Ive won $1.27 20 days played 27299 hands thats a massive 6 cent a day wooooop. kill yrself poker.

get used to it. the swings only get worse as you move up. regs are better, your edge is lower, games are more aggressive, higher actual $ amount per downswing is more tilting etc etc. pretty hypocritical thing for me to say, but seriously, don't even look at your results unless you have a feeling your BR might have got to stage where you should move up/down. out of sight/out of mind is a pretty beneficial motto when it comes to alleviating results-oriented tilt in poker imo.

Originally Posted by rpm

... don't even look at your results unless you have a feeling your BR might have got to stage where you should move up/down...

Agreed, but how would you do that?

i'm gonna ask Dylan C if they can add some kind of BR alert to the Cashier function...

what can I say I'm a fish wrapped up in a fish shaped baller costume and I'm not fooling anyone.

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

Agreed, but how would you do that?

i'm gonna ask Dylan C if they can add some kind of BR alert to the Cashier function...

by not opening the cashier or looking at results in your tracking software?

LOLZ!!

ya got me!

Originally Posted by kickass

i fucking hate poker. I cant seem to win a fucking hand that isnt fucking stupid, its got me thinking I'm actually shit. I'm gonna chill some then play again later.

20-table some plo, that ought to sort your head out.

poker is being my friend again. still playing at 5nl but feel like that downswing at 10 has made me a little better. gonna review my biggest losses see if I spazzed or what ever but I think I played pretty clean. prolly post a hand or two not that many folks are bothered bout reading/commenting on em.
I'm quite sad at the state of FTR at the minute I even went over to 2+2 for a look around.

Originally Posted by kickass

I'm quite sad at the state of FTR at the minute I even went over to 2+2 for a look around.

csb.

thanks bicycles. poluting my awesome blog with your sacasms

Originally Posted by bikes

csb.

Yeah, this is pretty much why FTR sucks. Been a long time since we had mods/admins who actually encourage posting.

interestingly enough, FTR's traffic decreased mostly because of black friday and americans no longer giving a damn about poker. not the mods' or admins' fault actually. blame the government.

if someone feel's ftr isn't up to par on traffic it's no one's responsibility but their own to try to make things better. as for your 'awesome blog' no one got any better at poker by bragging how good their running or how bad their running they got good by working really really hard. and finding like minded people who were also working really really hard.

i fucking hate poker. I cant seem to win a fucking hand that isnt fucking stupid, its got me thinking I'm actually shit. I'm gonna chill some then play again later.

this is not a mindset of anyone who is successful at this game as we've all realized early on sometimes bonks and donks have to win otherwise there would be no poker.

again if you don't like the way traffic has decreased on ftr feel free to post more and try to get your friends to post more as well and eventually traffic will increase, or you will discover that frankly most of your improvement comes from what you do off the forums instead of trying to get people to spoon feed you stuff they worked very hard to understand and implement.

as much as the forums have helped my game it's no where near in comparison what i learned away from them and the same can be said for anyone who has had any kind of success at this game.

if you chose the land of 2p2 have fun picking through all the trolls and horrid advice, say what you will about mine at least i tell you exactly what i would do given the situation and reads.

kickass, your 'awesome blog' reads like a diary, full of little more than brags/beats and vague posts about how you're feeling due to recent rungood or runbad. Some vague plans of what you're going to work on, but little mention of the work you actually have done. This quote sums it up pretty well:

Originally Posted by kickass

i like having a place to moan

The fact that you need a place to moan is indicative of suboptimal mental states that are undoubtedly tainting your play in-session. I suggest putting more focus on that than making generalizations about ftr because you're upset over bikes being a meany in your blog.

Ever since I started here, the tone of the admins has been harsh, as "tough love" has been the defacto approach in the poker community for as long as I can remember. Black friday has hit the traffic of most poker sites pretty hard, but as far as I can see -- the BC still has a decent lineup of solid winning players willing to give advice on HHs, and I see you taking advantage of that resource, as you should so I'm not sure what the problem is. A few sarcastic barbs does not equate "stifling discussion" or whatever the accusation is here.

The opportunity exists for you to learn and improve your game. Focus on that. Drop the ego, the butthurt, and whatever else is distracting you from making money and just make money. It's fun.

okay I think you took what I said a little to seriously, "my awesome blog" was sarcasm cos i never write anything of any worth. My comment on the state of FTR was only due to the lack of traffic and yeah its pretty obvious that black friday has a great deal to do with that.
I post on FTR cos I dont have friends who give a fuck about poker, I have learnt a great deal from reading what folks post, and I love being a part of it, even though I hardly ever have any advice for others (cos im fish). I am well aware that I need to study more and play more for that matter, and will prolly never acheive any great long term success because I am sadly lacking in the proper diciplin to study and actually learn
sorry if I offended you (or you think I'm a dick) I actually quite like your blunt opinions, they usualy get me thinking.

I didn't read any of the above posts cuz tldr but I just glanced and noticed this quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by kickass
i like having a place to moan


advice: if you want to go far in this game you need to change your attitude.

thinking about thing; ive decided to retire this blog as its probably doing more harm than good to my growth as a player. Its intention was to force me into proper study but instead it ended up a place where I whine or "brag". I feel kinda down about the way things have turned out but feel this is for the best. Thanks to everyone who showed support in any way. Change of attitude on its way (hopefuly).
kool and the gang.
luke

Originally Posted by Carroters

Yeah, this is pretty much why FTR sucks. Been a long time since we had mods/admins who actually encourage posting.

^ interesting perception. Maybe accurate, hard to tell for sure

A couple of months ago i noted that the BC was dead, i posted a bunch of hands and they got comments and it was pretty active for that time. It's just about people posting hands pretty much - if people don't post hands then what is there to post about?

Originally Posted by bikes

most of your improvement comes from what you do off the forums instead of trying to get people to spoon feed you stuff they worked very hard to understand and implement.

not intended as a troll or de-rail but i am genuinely interested here:
bikes, what are your views on helping other players become better at the game you earn your $$ from? do you view it as being net-detrimental to you if you have already 'arrived' in profitable poker playing land? what are your views on the fact that helping other players including anonymous lurkers will obviously cut into your own bottom line?

Originally Posted by kickass

I hardly ever have any advice for others (cos im fish).

bad mindset - you will benefit a lot from reading every hand history posted in the bc then writing a reply BEFORE reading what others have written. It will identify parts of your game where your thought processes are consistent with good players, and where there is variance. And you can try to figure out why people disagree with what you think. And this will be equivalent to study = will make you a better poker player

Davan took the time to send me this message (and gave me permission to quote it) and Ive got to say it sounds harder than just using this space as a poker facebook, just full of meaningless status updates and nonsense.

don't kill it. Instead, use it to post a record of what specific things you have been working on. E.g. continuation betting, post the links to classic threads/articles that you have read in an attempt to get better at it. Ask others to post things that they think you should also read - like, if i read a post saying 'i'm working on identifying spots to 3bet' and then a few links to articles/uber-threads about 3-betting then i'm likely to post links to relevant and useful resources that you may not have found yet relating to that topic. At the same time, post links to the relevant hands you have posted in the BC. Make the blog a record of how you are getting better at poker.

I obviously have to take on this challange and do what I intended to do from the start and actually try to improve at this game. I'm gonna start with c betting for 2 reasons, first thats the example Daven used, and second its something that I feel I dont use anything like properly so does require work on my behalf. As suggested I will post everything I read/watch/learn.

Thanks again to you Daven.

on a slightly different note christmas is getting closer and folks are asking me what I want, I would like to tell them a poker book or two, any personal recomendations of anything you all have read and helped with your game particualy related to beginer cash

well its late. I have read 4 articles of varying lengths (Robbs mother fucker took a good while) others were spoons posts from RPMs FTR threads thread thing. I'm pretty unsure of how to continue, Yaawn made some good points about barrell cards that I think will be useful, something I have been thinking about of late since that AJs hand I posted not long back. I have found looking at my c bet stats I'm pretty honest so I should be looking to C bet more often now lets not start spewing. Gonna do spoons exercise http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...et-184775.html tomorrow cos I'm fuckin knackered and I gotz work in the morning. It will be the first thing I do, before I play or read or anythang.

"Professional NLHE", "NLHE Theory and Practice", and "The Poker Mindset" are good reads IMO.

if i were given the task of trying to teach someone to know how to cbet, my first goal would be for them to build an intuitive sense of fold equity. that means going over 100's of flop cbet spots, estimating your opponents total range and what range he will call the CB with, and then figuring out what % of it will fold to your CB. however i'm sure there are a million other ways to go about it, and everybody likes to learn differently etc etc

also, i can vouch for the weasel's 3 book recommendations. they are probably the 3 best poker books i have read.

I think you could do with taking a look at 8-fold path to poker enlightenment video series and then actually apply it to your life and poker. It can help with the rage/tilt/results issues. Otherwise man, the fact that you work hard, put effort and detail into poker is fantastic, just keep persevering and improving.

^ yeah do that as well. you can get it for free via a 7-day trial at deuces cracked if you haven't already exhausted your trial.

Originally Posted by daven

not intended as a troll or de-rail but i am genuinely interested here:
bikes, what are your views on helping other players become better at the game you earn your $$ from? do you view it as being net-detrimental to you if you have already 'arrived' in profitable poker playing land? what are your views on the fact that helping other players including anonymous lurkers will obviously cut into your own bottom line?

i dont view as net detrimental unless i play against someone on a regular basis. but tbh i just don't care that much anymore as i used to

well fucking shit this study thing is hard. I did the first 3 in this thread http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...et-184775.html gonna do some more later Ive got family shiz to take care of. If anybody cares to read what I put I'd be interested to here what folks think.
I will also check the vids you suggested Angryafrican sounds like something that'll do me good, cos no I havent used up any free trial at deuces cracked, thanks for that RPM and Angryafrican of course.

I had plans to do more towards this today. Drink unfortunatly got in the way. Other news on the study front: I signed up to dueces cracked watched the tommy angelo vids, very ntresting, we shall see if I actually go through with doing anything about it, my plan is to do so. and I bought Blackrains e book on crushing the micros, alot of what he says Ive kinda learned already this past year but it was good to read and definatly worth its money just knowing the advice is tailored towards someone in my shoes, given by someone that has crushed the stake over and over. its nice to know your doing close to the right thing when the results arent going your way.
good luck to all grinding vs the friday night fishes.

blackrain has written a book about beating microstakes online poker?

yeah click on the link at the bottom of his posts takes you to his book. micro stakes pro

how you doing on c-bets?
post your thoughts on these: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2070059

some thoughts:
1 - run a filter over the last month with pfr=true, saw flop=true and go into the replayer. Think about the decision to cbet or not, a bunch. Decide what you like best re cbet or no and sizing. Compare with what you did. Post a few hands.
2 - 10nl. say you flop air on K73rb (you opened mp with AJ or something and bb nit-fish 11-8 called). Pot is 80c, you know villain has 55 cos you are superusing. How often does your c-bet have to generate a fold to be immediately profitable if you bet 80c, 60c, 50c, 45c, 40c, 35c?
3 - read para's delayed c-betting post at time 02-09-2009, 08:17 PM http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ho-167084.html
4 - read the tiny c-bet section IIc - frequent c-betting mistakes here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...t-ever-791734/
5 - cotw on cbetting Concept of the week #9: Continuation betting - Micro Stakes Full Ring Games - Micro Stakes Poker Strategy Forum

Originally Posted by rpm

blackrain has written a book about beating microstakes online poker?

he has

'bout halfway thru it, and it's mighty stuff.

check it out, sez I

On the "is the BC dead?" thang - the problem for me over the last x weeks is the torrent of spam; it makes it v difficult to see if there're any genuine new posts, an' so i'm kinda de-incentivized to read or post right now.

EDIT: 11:25 GMT - 12 of 13 latest BC posts are spam. The other 1 is someone replying to some spam.

thanks fo all this daven, I will get on it right away. I havent been doing anything on the c betting front. i have been studying a little been (reading poker mindset) but mostly christmas and work have taken over my life.

well here some friday night truths, drinking and the world wide web
Im doing fine bankroll wise at about 350, which is the most Ive had on stars. but... I feel to scared to play, its fucking pathetic I know. Ive been reading alot of material icluding veneers guide to cruhsing the micros blackrains guide, pokermindset and watching those tommy angelo videos all of which were meant to make me a better poker player but instead I feel tilted before I even start. with all the studying showing me just how much I dont understand about this game, I feel completely lost lacking any confidence and scared to over adjust as my edge is such a small one anyhow, move too much in any direction and it could turn into spew ville so easily. I have only played about 4000 hands this week and not a session over 500 hands. anyone gotz any real advice for beating this fear, am I alone here or have other folks been through this

whenever my confidence is crushed, I just go back to the basics, drop stakes and play tight, ABC poker crushing fish until I feel better about my game.

i've felt like that before. but normally it's through guilt regarding NOT studying enough and just spending hour after hour degenning away at the tables. i think dozer has hit the nail on the head though. move down for a few sessions, kick the shit out of some weaker players, realise why your strategy vs them is winning, move back up.

drop stakes, pad your roll a bit more if the money is making you nervous. nuttin wrong with playing overrolled. and you work on some of these new concepts with less risk lower down.

watch some videos, study also helps to get yourself into a winning mindset.

Thanks guys, I played some 5nl again, Im gonna stick around here a little longer I think; I dont want 10nl to be a big deal so a bigger bankroll should help. moving up isnt the only thing I should care about so I'm putting it out the way for a bit.

MMMMM things is not going well... been on the books a bit and watching some vids (poker bank) free shit. nearly through no limit holdem theory and practice for the second time unbeleivable how much of it I didnt remember, I didnt realise Id read it before till about half way through. So I should be top notch winning player now apart from I simply am to sticky with medium strength hands....please for gods sake find the fucking fold button.
I made i to 400 dollars playing 5 nl then very quickly spewed off 60 at 10 to move down and get coolered for another 20. oh dear. that was monday and Ive not really played since which is fucking gay cos Ive got the week off and nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by kickass

...I made i to 400 dollars playing 5 nl then very quickly spewed off 60 at 10 to move down and get coolered for another 20. oh dear. that was monday and Ive not really played since which is fucking gay cos Ive got the week off and nothing to do with it.

Was the 60 in one session? If so, take a break for an hour or so after losing 30 and then decide if you are capable of playing without tilt.
If not then don't play.

When I lose a hand, I'm usually safe with my first few phrases which are:
shit
damn
crap
sonofabitch
lucky bastard
... in no particular order.

Even if you are a little tilted after losing 30 and lose another BI after sitting down it will cause tiltimus maximus and you will be required to shout phrases such as:

1. "I Hate This Fuckin Game"

2. "Son of a FUCKIN BITCH",

3. "LUCKY FUCKIN COCKSUCKER"

in this order.

After number 1, I take a 30 min break.
After number 2, I take an hour break.
After number 3, I quit for the day.

And I'm actually serious about this.

You seem to have tilt issues so I'm sure you know what "your" phrases are and the severity of your tilt when you say them.

haha i use those phrases soooo much. especially sonofabitch and cocksucker :P.

lols I know my phrases for sure.and yeah bout 3000 hands, mostly I knew I was beat before I called and sighed telling myself to lay off the call button in future... Im not posting the hands cos I know the answers and they be shameful. why cant I lose that paranoid station fish in me. then I quit and played 5nl later that day and the lucky fuckers came out of the woodwork, I think a stop loss would be a good thing for me but when I'm at home in the day what am I gonna do but play cards. I find it so hard to get any real volume in that I have to play anytime I can. although whats the point of c game volume (my c game is prolly worse than most). Id get a bigger roll faster turning the computer off.

Originally Posted by kickass

... I think a stop loss would be a good thing for me but when I'm at home in the day what am I gonna do but play cards. I find it so hard to get any real volume in that I have to play anytime I can. although whats the point of c game volume (my c game is prolly worse than most). Id get a bigger roll faster turning the computer off.

Fold more and talk to yourself while playing.

"I'm going to raise this because..."

"My plan for this street is to..."

"I'm probably beat here so I'm going to fold because I only beat..."

"I should get my money in here because..."

"I'm not going to slowplay..."

thanks mr squach, sounds like exactly the right thing I need to be doing.

bankroll issues. I really dont want to move down again prolly 4th time, its depressing, played some 10nl today with a 2 buy in stop loss lasted about 200 hands. back to 5nl tomorrow but hell Im depressed about it. I dont know what Im doing so different at 10 that im not at 5 cos im crushing 5 for nearly 10bb/100 maybe I was just on a heater and I hit real life about the time I moved up.

dude be happy you have the BRM discipline to move down. I know moving down always sucks, but I've had to do it more times than I can count, and it's the only thing that stops me from spewing off tons of my roll. First time I moved up to 100NL, I had to drop 3 times before it stuck.

You seem to have massive issues with mental discipline in game -- it's pretty much impossible to win with those so work on those. meditate, exercise, eliminate distractions, get lots of sleep, take vitamins, jerk off, whatever just find something that works for you because if you can't deal with those, it doesn't matter how good you are.

After last night I need to take my own advice. Spew monkey.

I said "Dumb sonofabitch" three times and I wasn't talking about villian.