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07-28-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by daven

mmmmmmmmmm, stupid shit is the shit.

you've inspired me. Yesterday i was looking at d-SLR's cos i want to become a movie-making star and you can use normal cameras to film shit. But.... I'd want something cool to watch the movies on. And i have a big white wall busy doing nothing upstairs in my place. Shopping list is getting longer

You want to be a porn star?

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08-03-2010, 04:37 PM

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Spent way too much time playing Starcraft the last couple of days.
Today I had to pay social security and car insurance so I needed to make another withdrawal which puts my BR back to 2.5k again. I'll try and get a fixed schedule going so I get a reasonable amount of hours in this month. My net worth is looking good tho... But I want to hold off with touching the reserves as long as possible. My living costs are pretty low, but I'm still spending loads on food. I thought learing to cook might save me money but au contraire!

Anyway I'm off to grind. I won't be in IRC too much, but I'm always glad to find people who want to sweat me because it keeps me from doing stupid shit. I think my pm might still not work, but you can post here and I pm you my skype ID or whatever.

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08-04-2010, 03:47 AM

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i'll look you up on skype re the sweat thing once i'm back playing poker sometime next week

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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08-09-2010, 09:09 PM

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I continue to run like death. I keep going on those ridiculous runs where I drop 5BI in under a minute, and all of them in super obvious ldo-get-it-in spots that aren't worth posting. It's haunting.
I've lost about $150 to table ninja... I'm uninstalling it now. It disables itself if you type in a browser, in IRC, while taking notes, but not in the chatbox. I keep calling huge overbets or raising in super obvious fold spots because I type 'orly' or something like that.

Anyway... rant over. I'm approaching 200k hands break-even while still having one of the highest overall winrates of the FT lowstakes regs. That might just be due to 500k hand samples being pretty worthless... and yes I'm serious. I think if you've never had 100k+ break-even or 20+BI swings you're probably on a lifetime heater of some sort.

I really believe that myself as well as a lot of people who are considered good regs were just running extremely good over a very long period of time... even if it just means having your loosing hands spread out so you don't go on a roller coaster ride where you have 15 consecutive loosing days that crush your spirit. Then it all evens out and their graphs become a straight line... you keep seeing that - lifetime graphs that go up and then straight forever. On the other hand there must a huge amount of players who had the potential to become winning players but just ran bad from the start and gave up on poker.

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08-11-2010, 05:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar

I continue to run like death.
...

I've lost about $150 to table ninja... I'm uninstalling it now. It disables itself if you type in a browser, in IRC, while taking notes, but not in the chatbox. I keep calling huge overbets or raising in super obvious fold spots because I type 'orly' or something like that.
...

I really believe that myself as well as a lot of people who are considered good regs were just running extremely good over a very long period of time... even if it just means having your loosing hands spread out so you don't go on a roller coaster ride where you have 15 consecutive loosing days that crush your spirit. Then it all evens out and their graphs become a straight line... you keep seeing that - lifetime graphs that go up and then straight forever. On the other hand there must a huge amount of players who had the potential to become winning players but just ran bad from the start and gave up on poker.

Hey, Oskar, I'm back from the dead and checking on some ol' pals to see where folks are at these days. First, I agree with nearly every word of the post I quoted from above. Understanding poker variance is a big deal with me - I think about it a lot. I don't think most folks do, but most of us who spend a million hands (or more) fiddling with poker learn some real lessons about variance, like the ones you mention.

Second, I'm glad to hear your perspective on Table Ninja, since I withdrew a ton of $$ and don't have much role online currently, yet was considering an investment in it.

Third, I hope things can turn around for you soon. I also hope that the breakeven is just at the tables and that your rakeback is still generating some cash for you.

Wishing you the best of learning and luck with pokerz....

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08-15-2010, 03:28 PM

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thx 2u2

Use the trial period for table manager. I hear that the stars version is better.
Goal for the rest of the month is less whining like a little bitch and more grinding. I've switched to 6max for the last couple of days following iopq's advice, and I feel pretty comfortable with it so far.

I'm out of town since friday... Dropping in on the last days of a jazz workshop that I attended the last couple of years, but due to lack of practicing and stuff I decided not to go this year. And I immediately regretted it. One ensemble mixed I Promise Not To Come In Your Mouth (zappa) and Oops I Did It Again. Another one did Peep by Randy Brecker in 15/16 - which isn't nearly as hard as it sounds. The hard part is to convince the homos in the lead section that it's a good idea.
The good news is all the jam sessions in vienna are starting again after summer break pretty soon.

And I did some actual work regarding poker. Unexploitable cbet sizes in different situations and how ranges connect with boards cuz I was turned on by how sexy the numbers were when spoon posted a really simple one in IRC. The good news is the numbers are still as sexy with more complex ranges. Bad news is it's unlikely that I'll make any life changing discoveries, but I think it makes the whole game a little more transparent.

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08-20-2010, 01:19 AM

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I ate some cactus fruit and now my hands are all stingy.

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08-20-2010, 05:30 PM

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Looks like I'm back on the job market. I'll take my last 1k and go bonus whoring. Thx spoon:
spoonitnow: US Bonus Whoring Guide for 2010 (Part 1) | Advanced Poker Strategy

In the meantime I'll concentrate on strategy and simple game theory. Maybe take the opportunity to learn omaha... if I'm going to 4-table 25NL I might as well try to do something productive with it.

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09-06-2010, 01:15 AM

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Put half my points in $26 tourney tickets and got out ~$600 - that's more than twice than what they would have gone for at the 2+2 marketplace, so I'm happy about that. Now I'll grind some 25NL for the $500 deposit bonus on Absolute.

I'm making a radical change in my quitting decisions. I'm no longer trying to grind a certain amount of hours, but I'll base my quitting decisions on how much better/worse it will make me feel to win/loose some more. I was going to grind 2 sessions today, but after the first one I was up $450. It won't make a big difference for me if I double that, but it will suck if I play another five sng's without cashing, so I quit.

My level of happiness/content this year hasn't been proportional to the amount of cash I had. The times I was most stressed out this year was when I had ~30k-ish to my name, and the point where I felt best was when it looked like I was going to be confirmed busto really soon. Not because money makes me sad, but because I had a shift in priorities. If I can pay my rent, get good food, drive my car, go climbing, get laid, play drums, suck at starcraft, go paragliding... then I'm good. I don't need to make 6 figures a year to get to do that. Every cent over the minimum won't raise my quality of life by a lot, but the stress involved in trying to get there might make me misarable. I don't need to put numbers on that to see that those are shit odds.

Tomorrow I'll start to get my grind on at 25NL. If any micro grinders want to sweat me, hit me up on IRC or skype. I'll post a thread in the BC as well.

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09-06-2010, 08:53 PM

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you have a new pm sir.

Totally agree with you on discussion about money vs free time and stress.

Hope all is ballin'

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09-07-2010, 05:18 PM

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More wurkin', less ballin'.

Playing some on FT to clear the $50 bonus.

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($9.90)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($12)
Hero ($20.51)
CO ($11.74)
BTN ($14.78)
SB ($10.71)
BB ($22.92)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is MP2

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB raises to $1.20, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.90

Flop:

($2.75, 2 players)
BB bets $2.20, Hero calls $2.20

Turn:

($7.15, 2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River:

($12.15, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $17.02, $14.61 to Hero ($14.61)?

First I was like gah, fold, then I was like, whatever: call. Now I'm like: just fold.
Pfr is a super nit, 3-bettor is kind of active, but still his range is ridiculously well defined on the river.

He has to be bluffing/spazzing at least 11% to make this a call.
All in all I'm really just calling this to win one or two bb's at best, and I put 150bb at risk to do that. I really think that folding is the superior option because of stuff I've talked about in my last post. Loosing this hand when I know I'm putting that much at risk to win so little is tilting. Not tilting is more +EV than the one or two bb's I potentially make with this call.

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09-07-2010, 05:26 PM

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Villain is 80/20 with 75% fold to cbet over 50 hands
Turn makes my head explode because there so much in his range. I'm just posting this now so I go through this later. can't be bothered now.

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($13.86)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($9.94)
Hero ($10)
CO ($10.79)
BTN ($10.43)
SB ($10)
BB ($17.76)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP3

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop:

($0.85, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn:

($2.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ($8.9)?

Here I think I should be protect/vbetting the turn:
Villain is 50/20 with 20% fold to cbet.

$0.05/$0.10 Ante $0.02 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($10)
Hero ($13.93)
MP ($24.39)
CO ($39.54)
BTN ($9.20)
SB ($10)
BB ($8.98)

Pre-Flop: ($0.29, 7 players) Hero is UTG+1

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.50, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.40

Flop:

($1.19, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80

Turn:

($2.79, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River:

($2.79, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $2.79
BB shows

Hero shows a pair of Queens

Hero wins $2.61 (net +$1.29)

BB lost $1.32

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10-02-2010, 03:41 PM

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Monday I start working a 25h/week job that more than covers my living expenses and should be fun. Which means I don't need to cash out anymore. It's 14:00 - 19:00 CET which are the worst hours to play poker anyway.
Maybe even more importantly it will keep the tax office from asking stupid questions - my poker income this year is over 5 figures after all, and I would not mind it one bit if I don't have to tax that. And they have a health plan and everything. Taking that into account the pay is actually decent.

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10-02-2010, 10:31 PM

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sounds like a good plan. having a part time job would also make poker more fun, less stressful, and given that perhaps even more profitable?

"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."

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10-03-2010, 12:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

sounds like a good plan. having a part time job would also make poker more fun, less stressful, and given that perhaps even more profitable?

Idk about more profitable, but hopefully more fun. Poker hasn't really been fun for me since January 2009.

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10-03-2010, 12:54 AM

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where is that?

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10-18-2010, 01:55 AM

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Austria, alps... you wouldn't know

Just a quick HU for whoever is following: I'm doing great since I withdrew my roll. My day job is awesome, I'm spending much more time playing drums - I studied music for a reason, and I spent way too much time away from it over the last two years.
Way back when, redzill4 made a thread about not withdrawing anything from your roll until you can buy a house. That was the best advise I never took. But I'm working on that right now.
Poker wise I'm not playing much atm, but I will pick it up soon. Priorities are elsewhere tho.

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10-18-2010, 04:19 AM

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I remember that time dranger told us he had some task to attend to but got high on various drugs and had unprotected anal sex with a girl he didn't know instead.

Ich grolle nicht...

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10-23-2010, 12:03 PM

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Somehow I think this was meant to go in another thread

oct. update: silver 1v1, platinum 2v2, gold 3v3, bronze 4v4.

And my Absolute bonus is running out. fml. Anyway... christmas time is grind time. Cos that's what Jesus would do.

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10-23-2010, 07:46 PM

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Haha yea it was, sry. Also, wtf with getting like 15mins to clear AP bonuses?

Ich grolle nicht...

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10-23-2010, 09:34 PM

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why are you guys playing on a site that is rigged/has superusers/will steal your money etc.

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10-24-2010, 01:04 AM

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I'm not sure I want to answer that.

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10-24-2010, 01:25 AM

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Think you should ask the admins to change the thread title to "highway to the dranger zone" for the lolz.

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10-24-2010, 03:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carroters

Think you should ask the admins to change the thread title to "highway to the dranger zone" for the lolz.

you win the thread sir.

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10-26-2010, 11:17 PM

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A friend of mine just sent me a recording from a free improvisation in a 50 residents village in the middle of nowhere a year ago. Me doing way too much.

I wus prolly drunk.

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11-06-2010, 05:48 PM

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I'm no good with this updating business. I'm back at 100NL fwiw.
New goal: No more cashing out until I can buy a house.

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11-08-2010, 03:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar

I'm no good with this updating business. I'm back at 100NL fwiw.
New goal: No more cashing out until I can buy a house.

w00t... bolded ftw!

What site you playing on?

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11-08-2010, 07:40 AM

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I'm embaressed to say. Let's just say it's on cake.

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11-08-2010, 09:30 AM

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Oh wait, it's on merge.

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11-08-2010, 10:20 AM

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Found an old screenshot that kind of illustrates a major point. How often do you see a hh post that goes something like "villain is 15/11 over 300 hands, no reads." - WHAT? How can you not have player notes after 300 hands? I think this is a serious leak that people are underestimating. You don't need to be in a hand to take a player note. You don't even need a hand to go to showdown.

If you don't play FT: the green triangles indicate player notes. I'm not going to mention names, but there are three guys on this table that I play against purely based on history and notes - the stats are worthless except for their pf opening range, because they don't play against me like they do against anyone else, and they don't play against other regs the same way either. If you look at their stats and go: lol FR nit. Don't worry, I got this! You will spend a long time sitting there, looking at the cashier wondering where your money went.

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11-08-2010, 06:41 PM

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color coding notes for different player types helps table selection fwiw

[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

Problem officer...?

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11-08-2010, 08:55 PM

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of course nino, anom, and redeye play different against you. You're different. Eastxlad will always play the same against you, me, etc

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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11-08-2010, 10:36 PM

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lol merge

whats your SN on cereus

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11-08-2010, 10:42 PM

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Didn't mean red cos we don't really have much history

About table selection: I don't really table select. I just get on all PL and deep tables and go from there. Table rejection is maybe more accurate. I'll just play there for a while and leave when it's not worth it.
Color coding should be a good idea, but on FT you can read the player notes from the lobby, plus HEM loads the stats as soon as you open a table, so that's really useful as well.
I also got my Black Card today, and omg is it sexy. Daven maybe you can report back how good it really is, and maybe I'll move back to tilt in January to keep it.

I don't play on cereus m2m.

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11-09-2010, 08:31 AM

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lol i remember u showing me that pic before. i left ft for stars though (just hit supernova). how are the 50/100pl games on there now?

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11-09-2010, 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

lol merge

whats your SN on cereus

Nope. Oskar is a Boss guy imo.

That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.

oskar

11-18-2010, 12:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRedEyeJedi13

lol i remember u showing me that pic before. i left ft for stars though (just hit supernova). how are the 50/100pl games on there now?

Haven't played there for a while. A couple of months ago they were pretty bad.

I want to steer away from regular results oriented posts, but I do want to update regularly, so for today I'll do some realtime hand analyses.

I can't be bothered to look it up, but it went:

I open JTo in late mp, unnkown minraises IP, I call. flop is T8x mono giving me a flushdraw, villain bets 1/2P, I call. Turn bricks, I check and now he overbets pot slightly. about $35 into $32. He has $45 left.

I have him on KK+ at this point almost exclusively, and I kind of want to discount AA with the nfd (which as it turned out was what he had). If I can somewhat discount flushdraws it's an ldo call, and that's what my thought process was in the hand: I have 14 outs to beat KK+ without a flushdraw. I get slightly less than 2:1, I need slightly more than 2:1... Still the amount I have to make on the river to even it out should be around 1/10th pot. 9/44 I won't make anything and 5/44 I should make $45 pretty easily. And tbh I was going to jam flushes as well, which as it turned out would have been disastrous.

Anyway, I wanted to figure out how much I need to make on the river with 2pr or trips in the same situation if we were deep and his range is KK+ without weighting for or against flush cards in his range.
I'm not gonna type that out cos I figure I've already lost everyone, but it's about 125% pot on the river.
So remember this kids: if you equity split 9/45 and can vbet 5/45 against an overbet on the turn, you need to make 125% pot on the river to justify the turn call.
Sooo I guess I'll be smarter than that next time.. or put people on better ranges.

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dneureiter

11-21-2010, 10:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar

Haven't played there for a while. A couple of months ago they were pretty bad.

I want to steer away from regular results oriented posts, but I do want to update regularly, so for today I'll do some realtime hand analyses.

I can't be bothered to look it up, but it went:

I open JTo in late mp, unnkown minraises IP, I call. flop is T8x mono giving me a flushdraw, villain bets 1/2P, I call. Turn bricks, I check and now he overbets pot slightly. about $35 into $32. He has $45 left.

I have him on KK+ at this point almost exclusively, and I kind of want to discount AA with the nfd (which as it turned out was what he had). If I can somewhat discount flushdraws it's an ldo call, and that's what my thought process was in the hand: I have 14 outs to beat KK+ without a flushdraw. I get slightly less than 2:1, I need slightly more than 2:1... Still the amount I have to make on the river to even it out should be around 1/10th pot. 9/44 I won't make anything and 5/44 I should make $45 pretty easily. And tbh I was going to jam flushes as well, which as it turned out would have been disastrous.

Anyway, I wanted to figure out how much I need to make on the river with 2pr or trips in the same situation if we were deep and his range is KK+ without weighting for or against flush cards in his range.
I'm not gonna type that out cos I figure I've already lost everyone, but it's about 125% pot on the river.
So remember this kids: if you equity split 9/45 and can vbet 5/45 against an overbet on the turn, you need to make 125% pot on the river to justify the turn call.
Sooo I guess I'll be smarter than that next time.. or put people on better ranges.

yea watching you play that hand I think my chin hit the desk when you called turn. I have 14 outs, uh.. mebbe. He shows AdAx. Stacking flushes ends up being breakeven since half time he has a better flush + thats assuming he always calls on 4 flush board which is probably safe to assume. Oh, wow, you already wrote what I'm trying to write.. damn.

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11-21-2010, 01:38 PM

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Yah, but he had a diamond in his range there like someone who cb shoves Q93r has QQ in his range. It makes no sense because he doesn't need to protect against anything and he doesn't need to bet nearly as much to set up a river shove. I would be more likely to fold the turn if he bets 1/2 pot or something gay like that. I still don't think it's absolutely terrible. Even if I only get his stack when I make 2 pair, it's only about -10bb ish in EV. As soon as I can weight his range to non-flush overpairs it becomes +EV.

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11-21-2010, 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar

It makes no sense because talking about whether his line makes sense is redundant cos he's the type of player who min 3-bets

fyp

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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11-24-2010, 08:01 PM

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ur right... I suck.

In real life news: My car is a pile of rust and I have to get a new one. I'm not particularly snob-ish when it comes to cars: I would be delighted to drive a 70's Opel Kadett if you could get one that was reliable...

I like how it looks permanently worried and surprised.

but 90's to 00's budget to midrange cars were absolutely dreadful and only recently they've been picking up again. Too recently to find cheap used ones. - The Volvo XC70 for example looks amaaaaaaaaaaaazing[/vibrato]. What I'm really hoping to find is a used bottom-of-the-line Dacio Sandero. When I heard that you could get one without servo amplifier if you insisted I immediately fell in love. The first car I ever drove was my mom's Mitsubishi Colt without a servo. If you have never driven one without: ofc it's a lot harder to park, but once you get rolling the steering is lighter than in cars with servos... this gets worse when they add artificial resistance at speed for 'safety' reasons. That doesn't necessarily mean that I will get one without, but I will definitely try to get one to test drive.
Plus if you check ebay for spare part prices you will jizz your pants.

I think they are fairly good looking as well.

Not stunning, but not *puke**eyecancer**suicide* either... I mean... look at this shit:

Are they fkin serious? What kind of sicko designed this?

Anyway I'm working on my own way of explaining poker to people with zero knowledge about the game. I'm driving to work with a friend every day. That gives me 15min. a day to try and explain poker to him. I started off by explaining coinflips, then coinflips with multi-sided coins (aka dice) and variable bet sizing. We're slowly working our way up to one-street poker games with a limited number of cards in the deck to make combinatorics accessible. I think it's working well. I don't really want to bother with any of that what cards to play from what position nonsense and just teach him how to think about the game.
I'll report back on that

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01-02-2011, 09:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar

I'll report back on that

He had a baby a couple of weeks back, so I guess I'll report back on that in 18 years or so.
I put 500 on tilt a week back which is closer to 1k now. I'll probably withdraw from all other sites. FT is where my heart is. Enjoying my black card multiplyer for a couple more days until the grace period runs out and I have to re-earn it.
Goal for this month is grinding around 5h a day.

And btw fuck the strategy nonsense. Who gives a shit. The people want results and brag posts, right?

No money HU

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($103.55)
BB ($67.80)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is SB

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1

Flop:

($5, 2 players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero raises to $9, BB calls $5.50

Turn:

($23, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB raises to $30, Hero goes all-in $92.05, BB goes all-in $26.30

River:

($171.35, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $171.35
BB shows a pair of Queens

Hero shows two pair, Queens and Eights

Hero wins $170.85 (net +$67.30)

BB lost $67.80

If you thought that was amazing, check out this shit:

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($148)
BB ($99.45)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Hero is BTN

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2

Flop:

($7, 2 players)
BB bets $7, Hero raises to $21, BB raises to $35, Hero goes all-in $144, BB goes all-in $60.95

Turn:

($198.90, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River:

($198.90, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $198.90
BB shows

Hero shows

Hero wins $246.05 (net +$98.55)

BB lost $99.45

And you know what, I won't even get into why I raised tpnk on the flop and 3b the turn all-in. That's just how awesome I am.

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01-03-2011, 10:53 AM

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01.01.11: 5h, 3087 hands
yesterday: 4h

3089 hands

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($29.87)
UTG+1 ($19.67)
MP1 ($25.65)
MP2 ($25)
CO ($26.44)
BTN ($15.45)
SB ($31.42)
Hero ($59.98)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BB

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1, BTN calls $0.75, SB folds

Flop:

($2.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BTN raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $5.25, BTN raises to $7, Hero raises to $8.75, BTN raises to $10.50, Hero raises to $12.25, BTN raises to $14, Hero raises to $15.75, BTN goes all-in $0.45

Turn:

($31.15, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River:

($31.15, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $31.15
Hero shows

BTN shows

Hero wins $30.90 (net +$14.15)

SB lost $0.25
BTN lost $15.45

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01-03-2011, 07:03 PM

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9-bets on the flop are always bluffs, he knew that.

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01-04-2011, 03:58 AM

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Well, you got there in the end...nh

My Operation and FTR Rethread: Stations are *sob* so hard to play against

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01-10-2011, 05:59 PM

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Good news: I'm exactly on target with 30k hands and 50h on the month. Bad news: breaking even at lolNL. Good News: rakeback ftw

The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.

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01-10-2011, 08:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar

Good news: I'm exactly on target with 30k hands and 50h on the month. Bad news: breaking even at lolNL. Good News: rakeback ftw

Play better. Run better (not vs me). Win 5pt. Kthx.

and if you stopped calling/3-betting me, starting picking my bluffs from my value bets/stop battling vs whatever a gaylord is... You make me have to concentrate = typically a good thing, but, meh, reg-wars.
as for what 30k hands look like (32hrs), i'm also glad i'm clearing a big bonus
(clearing at almost 2ptBB/100!) that isn't affecting MGR + cashed the ironman tourney + etc. And lol-obviously i didn't stay 12bi up yesterday....

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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01-10-2011, 10:24 PM

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I'm bluffing you way less than you think. I've made some pretty redonculous laydowns against you cos I think the day tptk is good against your c/c, donk turn range when you have initiative, it's white christmas in hell. Plus I still don't believe you have a semi bluffing range on KJx rainbow when you call my mp2 open or whatever it was.

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01-10-2011, 10:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oskar

noted. You're probably right. no white xmas down here in nz

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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