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ok. I know how to play a style of poker that seems to produce ok results for the limits and games that I play.
But sometimes I get bored and wonder if I'm good enough to run loose and beat the game - this is a subtle form of tilt that i've already described:
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repeat to self:
"Running 29-22 while 13-tabling full ring is stupid"
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So I repeat that, and then start to wonder, "how about 20-16?" so i run a session where i run not even breakeven after rakeback, which is a waste of time and money:

sub-op time. Moving back to 100nl today. I'm going to play my standard game and stick to targeting weakness as my source of entertainment. I'm not going to try and become daven-superlag
i'm gonna stick to being an ABC nit who sucks post-flop...
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#1--Stay off my tables!!!

#2--repeat #1
The Agg % stat, how does that correlate to the aggression frequency% in PT3? 25% just looks low....
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Operation Grind For Education:
Current BR: $10080(04/06/2009) BR Goal: $15000--I LOVE RB!!!
End date: 31aug2009
Current stakes: $100/200NL FR
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daven
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#1--Stay off my tables!!!
The Agg % stat, how does that correlate to the aggression frequency% in PT3? 25% just looks low....
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noted that you left as soon as i turned up 
aggression frequency % is how often I was aggressive i.e. the percentage of times i bet or raised when i had the option. I think this is pretty high, cos I do a lot of folding...
and in "year in the life" context.
Man. I'm so addicted to this poker shit.
Clearing $1k a week seems easily doable (the last few weeks anyway, and that's including some crazy experimental tilt downswings!)
unfortunately this means that after my real job (18-20 hrs/week, quitting isn't an option that I'm giving any consideration), climbing, running, & everything else that life entails - I find that I don't end up doing as much of the cool stuff as I should be.
Working part-time wasn't so that I could sit more often in front of a computer at home. So, decision time. How much time should i spend playing poker between now and April when my contract finishes. After that I'll be going poker pro for a while regardless, likely to support some sort of climbing/surfing/travel buzz. In the meantime? guess i'll figure it out over the next few weeks...
any thoughts/advice much appreciated.
been thinking about my online bankroll recently too. I've decided to stick to 100nl for a while now, so there's no point in having more than $5k online. I'll withdraw a bunch more over the next couple of weeks. My plan is to get to $6k, pull $2k, rinse, repeat... If I ever decide it's time to hit 200nl then I'll stop withdrawing until roll equals $10k and then move up.
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So i'm clearly a noob and suck at life so this is just my opinion and I think you could make a much better decision then i ever could that being said heres what i think...
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I've decided to stick to 100nl for a while now, so there's no point in having more than $5k online. I'll withdraw a bunch more over the next couple of weeks. My plan is to get to $6k, pull $2k, rinse, repeat... If I ever decide it's time to hit 200nl then I'll stop withdrawing until roll equals $10k and then move up.
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So like April is a long time away. If your winning at a decent rate and seeing a decent amount of hands (as i believe you are) reaching 200nl seems easily doable. The sooner you move to 200nl the sooner you will begin to adjust to the play at that level and produce a sick win rate (not saying move up ASAP but $10k seems about right) which will put you in a far better position after April.
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Working part-time wasn't so that I could sit more often in front of a computer at home. So, decision time. How much time should i spend playing poker between now and April when my contract finishes. After that I'll be going poker pro for a while regardless, likely to support some sort of climbing/surfing/travel buzz. In the meantime? guess i'll figure it out over the next few weeks...
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How much should you be playing? I would think as much as possible. Think of it as a small sacrifice now for an awsome return later. Living it up doing what you love would be awsome but not as awsome as living it up doing what you love and being financially secure. If it turns out 200nl is not for you then fuck it play 100nl but wouldn't it be better to find out now then moving up when poker is your main source of income and thus far more stressful?
As for keeping only $5k online how easily can you fund your poker accounts? The way the american dollar is going and is likely to go it may be prudent to keep as little online as possible. Obviously keep a BR but having a separate bank account in NZ dollars connected to your neteller account or something might be worth the conversation fees just in case.
Any way dude your awsome GL.
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Hehe Daven, you sat on the wrong side of me LOL....
Actually, I had to get up early the next morning so I was shutting it down anyway....
I don't feel I'm addicted in any way shape or form, but boy do I love this game, even when I swong the wrong way.
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Operation Grind For Education:
Current BR: $10080(04/06/2009) BR Goal: $15000--I LOVE RB!!!
End date: 31aug2009
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daven
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time to withdraw again - bonuses and rakeback play a sickeningly important role in my poker bankroll growth to date!
Poker play itself is feeling light and relaxed at the moment, seems as though I've switched to cruise control
I've barely played the last week - hanging out with friends and beach sifting at the other end of the country instead. Played a nice laptop-screen only session 7-tabling for around an hour and realised how relaxed and easy-reading it is to play so few tables. Running good doesn't do any harm either! (5-bet pushed QQ based on reads and finally I'm applying some theory about range blockers - anyway, nice to get it in full stacked against AK & AJ, and to hold!!!)
I played the Full Tilt iron man, it confirmed what the FTR $500 added suggested - I suck at MTTs. Busted 120th/330 when AJs ran into KK with M=4... Doesn't sound so bad, but I'm an MTT nit and need to play more hands/situations. I am crap at dealing with changing blind structures and with <100bb - too many hands of full ring cash where I'm used to sitting between 100 and 300 bb deep. Once I'm in push-fold mode I'm not so bad again. So, another sub-project. I'm going to play the occasional low stakes MTT, buyins $10-$40 I guess, and try to get a little better. I'll also play a few more sngs...
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If your winning at a decent rate and seeing a decent amount of hands (as i believe you are) reaching 200nl seems easily doable. The sooner you move to 200nl the sooner you will begin to adjust to the play at that level and produce a sick win rate (not saying move up ASAP but $10k seems about right) which will put you in a far better position
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You speak wise words here - I'm going to move up to 200nl in December, see how I fare. I'm comfortably rolled for it and - You're right!! - if it goes well, then it's a great decision. The main reason I'm not moving up is that I know that I still suck, but I'm realising that even some of the winning mid-stakes regs suck - so maybe moving up isn't totally stupid. Worst case scenario I blow 7 buyins quickly and move back down to lick my wounds and hopefully have a better understanding of my major weaknesses. More likely is that I spend a few weeks losing lightly, and almost staying breakeven after rakeback... then move down to improve my game before moving up again
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I'm more concerned with how easily I can withdraw from my poker accounts My main approach to date is looking ugly, so I'm going to investigate some other options this week. When I pull money offline I no longer consider it poker $$... and my plan is still to never deposit again except for quick clear bonuses where i deposit, clear, and withdraw within 48hrs (and I've been keeping to that for a year now). That may change if I move up in stakes though - I like to play with a bunch of buyins up my sleeve, but don't like the idea of substantial $$ sitting online when they could be sitting in a high-interest account generating at least some $$.
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interesting session where i ran less than EV and somehow ended up making one buy-in, however unlikely the hands below may make that seem! all took place during the last 90 minutes of crazy times!
hand 1) Set over set, this is fine against this player i think
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($199)
Hero (BB) ($156.85)
UTG ($18.50)
UTG+1 ($43.20)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($91.95)
CO ($100)
Button ($100)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 , 9
5 folds, Button raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50
Flop: ($7.50) 9 , J , A (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button raises to $15, Hero calls $10
Turn: ($37.50) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $28, Hero raises to $138.35 (All-In), Button calls $53.50 (All-In)
River: ($200.50) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $200.50 | Rake: $3
Results
Button had J , J (three of a kind, Jacks).
Hero had 9 , 9 (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Button won $197.50
hand 2: Unusual situation, unusual flop bet to try and induce a shove over....
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($142.25)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($8.90)
UTG+1 ($52)
MP1 ($147.85)
MP2 ($93.35)
MP3 ($35)
Button ($114.30)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , A
3 folds, MP2 raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Button calls $3.50, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $14, MP2 calls $10.50, 1 fold, SB calls $10.50
Flop: ($45.50) 4 , 4 , 10 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20, 1 fold, SB calls $20
Turn: ($85.50) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $66 (All-In), SB calls $66
River: ($217.50) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $217.50 | Rake: $3
Results
SB had 9 , Q (flush, Queen high).
Hero had A , A (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: SB won $214.50
hand 3: i think i'm good here about 40% of the time against this player - i was 3-betting small cos i wanted him to call. Oops.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($128.95)
MP1 ($38.25)
MP3 ($176.45)
CO ($35.80)
Hero (Button) ($130)
SB ($34.65)
BB ($20.70)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , Q
3 folds, MP3 raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, MP3 calls $6
Flop: ($19.50) A , 5 , A (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $13, MP3 calls $13
Turn: ($45.50) 2 (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks
River: ($45.50) 3 (2 players)
MP3 bets $50, Hero calls $50
Total pot: $145.50 | Rake: $3
Results
Hero had A , Q (three of a kind, Aces).
MP3 had A , K (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: MP3 won $142.50
hand 4: spew
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($62)
SB ($37.65)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($41.80)
UTG+1 ($61)
MP1 ($34.30)
MP2 ($18.50)
MP3 ($81.25)
CO ($112.20)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , K
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 3 folds, Button raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, Button calls $7
Flop: ($23.50) 5 , 3 , 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $16, Button calls $16
Turn: ($55.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero raises to $73 (All-In), Button calls $23 (All-In)
River: ($125.50) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $125.50 | Rake: $3
Results i
Button had 10 , 10 (three of a kind, tens).
Hero had A , K (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Button won $122.50
hand 5. i know he thinks i'm fos...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($237.60)
BB ($38.50)
Hero (UTG) ($133)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($278.50)
MP2 ($99.90)
MP3 ($193.50)
CO ($36.10)
Button ($66.15)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 , 9
Hero raises to $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, 6 folds, BB calls $2.50
Flop: ($11) 3 , 2 , 4 (3 players)
BB bets $11, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, BB calls $11
Turn: ($55) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $55, BB calls $13 (All-In)
River: ($81) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $81 | Rake: $3
Results
BB had K , A (straight, five high).
Hero had 9 , 9 (two pair, nines and fours).
Outcome: BB won $78
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May 9th 2008
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5) Poker goal = make $25k over the next 12 months...
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I've been going 4 months. I'm a little behind schedule - profit should be $8k between then and now, it's only $6k.
The next 3 months are key.
Debating moving to stars and grinding to supernova between now and December. Will decide shortly.
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Back on track, and then some.
Not moving to stars this year - addicted to weekly rakeback payments.
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Hand 4 - Why did you 3b so small? Was it b/c villain was short?
Also, not moving to Stars when the year is almost over = smart decision in my opinion. If you do decide to move, might as well wait for the new year so you can at least get Supernova, right?
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[04:18] <+Bbickes> do u has teh agoraphobia?
[04:18] <+fat> im agressive yes
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1) std
2) 3bet more preflop, to about 18. As played just bet normal cbet in 3b pot and get it in obv.
3) is fine, although i make note he slightly overbets with what is the nuts in 3b pot.
4) Give up on turn obv, 3bet pre to $14-16
5) Just shove flop, he's got 13 left lul
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thanks for the comments - pretty much everytime I post hands here someone exposes another leak! I should post more hands...
I'm going to further examine 3-bet sizing. One thing I think (hands 2, 3, & 4) is that 3-betting is by default smaller when the standard open is 3.5bb rather than 4bb. Also, any 3-bet >pot is bad cos of the bet pot button. I'll look further at 3-bet sizing, I may be going a little light in general (generally pot less 1-2 xbb)
hand 5 - Agreed that leaving him with that little behind is unusual, but he's bad and won't realise that he's pot committed now. I wanted to get a call not a fold, and i don't think he's calling his stack to a flop re-raise here
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$3.2k poker profit so far this month (tables + rakeback), will need to hit a decent heater to get my first taste of a $5k month now - but that's fine.
Playing ok, time to start studying again shortly. Figured out a couple more poker thoughts recently. Whenever i understand something new I am exposed even further to how little I know...
things are good.
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sweet keep the updates coming I enjoy your blog 
by the way what does 'fos' mean
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FOS = Full Of Shit.
Stay on the heater daven IMO ldo
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Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
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fos = Full Of SH...!!!
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thanks
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fos = Full Of SH...!!!
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also note the "pos," which helps form ranges for many micro-donks 
I'm jumpin' in so I get notified on updates. gl daven!!
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today's session. Meh, I played ok - checked the biggest losers and i don't find any folds that could have saved me $$$
sets didn't work out so well, and nor did a draw with 18 outs (fd, overs, gutshot).
Oh well, i guess that's why i run deep. My second 6+ downswing of the month, but still an ok month I guess... not holding my breath for $5k any more.
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whee - edit a coupla days later. Short session and 4 buy-ins below ev in only an hour... thanks river kings. Kinda cool that the month is still one of my best ever, but kinda shit at the same time. The graph is of the last week
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daven
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withdrew another $2k today. I like that feeling, although it's almost 2/3 of my month's profits. The month was looking great, but the last ten days = yuck....
Goal for November? a lot dependent on how many hands I'll be getting in.
Competing for my time:
Summer is arriving, I'm going south for a week to a juggling festival that somehow incorporates a 2-day rave, I'm doing more rock climbing and should also be hitting the water more often. A friend won a marathon three weeks ago and pointed out last night over a few beers that I'll only run faster if i train, he has a point. And work is still taking up 18-20hrs/week.
assuming 50k hands, goal of $4k all counted for the month I guess.
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A post w/ 3 of my top 4 favorite things in it: distance running, rock climbing and winning 4k at poker. Now, if you'd just find out how to get laid, you'd have the perfect life!!
Hope you get lucky in November - and win at poker, too.
:P
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the girl i'm heading to the festival with looks a lot like (is?) meeloche's avatar....
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the girl i'm heading to the festival with looks a lot like (is?) meeloche's avatar....
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Nice 
RUN BETTER, ezgame. Can't believe it's going to be summer for you, the UK has had its first snow already, the weather is horrible and freezing... Jealous much.
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3k post - Return of the blog!
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the girl i'm heading to the festival with looks a lot like (is?) meeloche's avatar....
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haha, i likkkkke gurls. Daven do u pay tax on your poker earnings? I have no idea on the taxing laws in new zealand . It would be good to know.
ops still going strong,
Nice work
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i'm getting a legal opinion later this year from some big commercial law firm - expect it to cost a couple of buy-ins. The advice i have so far is that it's "gambling" and while i have a job it can be tax-free.
onto the op. Today = gold. First $1k day in ages, helped along immensely by my biggest ever pot vs a 70-30 fish-tard. Then it got kinda intense when i ended up covered by two other players, so i took red's advice and left. The month is going ok:
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP3 ($353.40)
CO ($100)
Button ($200)
Hero (SB) ($327.55)
BB ($100)
UTG ($420.30)
UTG+1 ($329.25)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($78)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 , 9
2 folds, MP1 raises to $3, 1 fold, MP3 calls $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($10) J , 2 , 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $6, MP3 raises to $18, Hero raises to $42, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $142, Hero raises to $324.55 (All-In), MP3 calls $182.55
Turn: ($665.10) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($665.10) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $665.10 | Rake: $3
Results
Hero had 9 , 9 (three of a kind, nines).
MP3 had 7 , J (one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won $662.10
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LoL J7 - yeah, 4bet the flop in 3-way action.
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VNH sir!
My 70/30 idiots always seem to have JJ in that spot when we are that deep.
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Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
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Daven do u pay tax on your poker earnings?
i'm getting a legal opinion later this year from some big commercial law firm - expect it to cost a couple of buy-ins
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Yeah, i got a friend that finished his law degree last year and hes a online player and he thought about the same. Its quite a hazy area really... I havent heard of a case of the ird taking anyone to court or anything before, so yer like u said its just 'gambling' heh.
that deep pot was magic.
very nice, everyone loves the occasional 70/30 that willingly stacks with tp and mud.
nh, n good luck in the future.
This thread has been great a great inspiration for myself, starting a op in the next few days/weeks.
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lol. fuck i'm bad at quoting properly n shit.
my apologies guys
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another withdrawal today, to keep my online $$ under control. I've now withdrawn US$10k since I started my first op thread on FTR late last year Feels good. Thanks to all who have been helping along the way!!!
amazing how much of a role bonuses/rakeback/promotions have played in my bankroll growth - when I finish this op in May '09 I'll figure out the breakdown.
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Just seen this. A juggling festival/rave, who thinks these things up? That sounds fucking AWESOME
You're poker journey is quite something as well. I'm sure we started at about the same time, and while i'm still dicking about at 50NL you've withdrawn $10K dollah. See kids, working hard produces results.
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There's only one system. Bet. Lose. Borrow. Steal. Lose. Take the drugs. Lose. Prison. Death.
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Originally Posted by daven
I'm going south for a week to a juggling festival that somehow incorporates a 2-day rave,
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haven't played poker for a week.
The rave was 14hrs (10pm-12noon) rather than two days. The festival was amazing. I juggled. I also hung out with this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aSkFlF3_M4 , who I've kinda known for about 13 years... we talked some poker and i think i translated some of his street-performance/diablo philosophy into a form that i can profitably apply to poker - may post more on that later...
things are good.
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daven
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I've been slipping into some bad habits. For the next little while I will focus on:
1) paying attention - Being in IRC while grinding is ----EV, so is posting on FTR, writing e-mails, etc.
2) Reviewing sessions
3) Posting and commenting on hands
4) Studying
5) Discipline = positional play and folding
6) Trusting reads
7) playing only up to 13 tables, more than this and i feel my edge start to slip
8) stopping sessions if i feel I'm playing badly
9) not playing when i shouldn't be playing - whatever the reason
I'll post updates at 10k hand intervals, and am thinking about posting biggest hands per session with discussion/commentary
I think I need to re-assess my poker goals as well. I can ignore 1-9 above and still clear $2k/month, which is about what i've been aiming for. Instead i will focus on how much more i can clear if i do what i should be doing.
that is all for now.
oh, and my biggest two (1xwinning and 1xlosing) hands from the last week:
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initial raiser is 25-12 and has folded to 3-bets 4/4 so far. He also has squeeze/iso tendencies.
The limp-caller is a 36-9 type prone to monkey-checked-to syndrome. When the turn gives me top and bottom + Top kicker & the flush draw I'm always getting my money in against this guy. I figure this the best way to do so. The turn 2 really narrows his range, I think he plays a lot of hands like this, and now there's only one hand I'm scared of (he raises 99 pre)
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($155.25)
CO ($305.45)
Button ($52.60)
Hero (SB) ($129.70)
BB ($101)
UTG ($71.90)
MP1 ($200.60)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , A
2 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, MP2 calls $13, 1 fold
Flop: ($33) 2 , 9 , K (3 players)
Hero bets $16, MP2 calls $16
Turn: ($65) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $125.25 (All-In), Hero calls $99.70 (All-In)
River: ($264.40) 9 (3 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $264.40 | Rake: $3
2) Villain is 15-12 but 3-bets kinda wide and thinks I'm FOS. I like my line, standard as it is....
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) ($107.25)
UTG ($162.25)
UTG+1 ($17.70)
MP1 ($84)
MP2 ($39.50)
CO ($103.50)
Button ($84.65)
SB ($174.45)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , A
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 3 folds, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, SB raises to $44, Hero raises to $107.25 (All-In), SB calls $63.25
Flop: ($216.50) K , J , 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($216.50) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($216.50) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $216.50 | Rake: $3
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jimmy44
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For hand 1, did villain had QQ with the Qs? 
Without history he defintely doesn't have 99.
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daven
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Originally Posted by jimmy44
For hand 1, did villain had QQ with the Qs? 
Without history he defintely doesn't have 99.
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3c3s....
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Originally Posted by daven - 31st October
Goal for November?
assuming 50k hands, goal of $4k all counted for the month I guess.
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on track to come close for hands played and fail on $$ - at least I recognised my lack of focus leak and have started to correct it.
edit a couple of days later - close to $3k for the month and a week to go, one time!?!?
since the focus post I've been running good and playing mostly ok...
Switching off IRC = most ++EV thing I've done in ages. Results of hands played since that post:
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daven
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Straight Flush
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running bad compounded by playing bad
that is all
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d0zer
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by daven
running bad compounded by playing bad
that is all
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It happens 
One thing that helps me play goot, is before starting a session, I try to drop all expectation of results, and just focus on every single decision I have to make. I consistently have better results when I do this.
If I notice myself saying "fek I gotta make this monies back", that's my cue to bail on the session.
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daven
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by d0zer
before starting a session, I try to drop all expectation of results, and just focus on every single decision I have to make.
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sage advice! i'm going to go back to playing well and running good - cos that's more fun
i may have made one too many withdrawals - leaving my FT balance at 16buyins (and the arrogance that i assumed this would be fine for 14-tabling) - so i ended up adjusting my game.... anyway, i had $1k stagnating on my neteller account, so now i'm back to not worrying about whether the auto-rebuy will work if i get stacked.
I need to look back through this year - i don't have losing weeks very often, they bug me...
to make myself feel better - it's been just over 12 months since i made my first FT deposit of $600. I guess this sort of $$ harvesting is sustainable - kinda like FT fisheries management.... deposits in red, withdrawals in blue - $2700 in deposits, a little over $13k in withdrawals...
I guess i'll do this for the year's play across all sites at the end of April 2009...

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nice_aiau
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daven,
those 2k withdrawals look Beautiful!
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triumphant cracker
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this the best thread ive read today...
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daven
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Straight Flush
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i figured out what i've been doing wrong this last week - i've lost the fold button post-flop, and i've been raising/betting too much...
sounds easy to fix, here's hoping. Discipline... and a 14 buyin down swing to recover!!! although downswing is a misnomer - to me those are about variance, and a lot of this one is a variance/bad play combo
november my worst poker income month in ages somewhere around $1700 US. Funny, a year ago I would have been over the moon with that!!!
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this the best thread ive read today...
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i'm flattered, and only two more one-liners before you get to play all those beautiful freerolls
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daven
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Straight Flush
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One mistake worth 80bb every 2000 hands is -2BB/100.
I propose making less mistakes.
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daven
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Straight Flush
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making less mistakes is proving to be a good idea...
I'm playing a very simple game at the moment, too small a sample size to say for sure that it's working as this month is proving to be very light on hands played.
So far it's 8500 hands of 100nl returning 6.5ptBB/100. Running a little behind EV. Nice to be earning $100 an hour for time at the tables so far this month.
i'm going to try and make less mistakes more often.
also, i thought about trying out some coaching - briefly. I figure that it's a waste of time while I can still spot so many big leaks in my game and haven't even come close to studying the things i want to study (i have a list that i'm slowly working my way through - e.g. I think i'm finally starting to understand 3-betting pre-flop a little) - any thoughts on this?
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daven
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limp slowrolled my way into the money in a loyalty freeroll for $80.
I suck at mtts.
I was about 15th in chips once the field was half gone, 200/400 left and 90 pay. And then?!?! dunno, i get lost in mid-game. I'm fine for the first 4 or 5 blind levels, then fine again (i think) ifi get down to m= 5 or 6. I'm crap at using a decent stack to stay a decent stack.
Guess that's why/cos i play cash 100+bb deep and auto-rebuy, plus have never studied or played mtts even remotely seriously.
The month is still going reasonably light on poker, but results are fine. Still running around 5ptBB/100 and a little behind ev.
About $2180 profit so far this month. $1750 tables, $100 payment from rake race last month, $80 from the freeroll, and $250 rakeback. (quick edit after my 200nl table paid dividends!)
halfway through the month and i haven't even played 15k hands yet. This is going to be a light month for volume....
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daven
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Straight Flush
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running into the tops of too many ranges recently, second nuts against a maniac? no good.... etc...
sets aren't holding. Rivers are horrible. etc...
$1500 for the month now, yuck
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a hot damn mess
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GL sir. One of these days I will play a pot with you that isnt you restealing from me =(
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Parkour to you!
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nice_aiau
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yo,
Have you talked to that guy about the taxing etc.?
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xptboy
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Daven, I am interested in knowing how many hours/week you play and how many extra hours you spend studying poker.
I am very interested in your blog because you are obviously a winning player and a good poker player but you also seem to have a very balanced life outside of poker.
Good job, keep playing well and keep makin' that cash money.
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daven
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yo,
Have you talked to that guy about the taxing etc.?

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not yet. It's something I'll be doing sometime between now and march 31st. I'll let you know once I have it
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Daven, I am interested in knowing how many hours/week you play and how many extra hours you spend studying poker.
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varies a lot. I normally have FTR open if i'm online, and post/comment on occasional hands - but don't consider this study. FTR probably occupies 15-30mins/day?
I play between 800 and 1.3k hands an hour. This month I've played 20k hands - so that's about 20hrs for the month so far. Usually the hours/day is distorted cos once in a while I'll find a rainy day that I'm not working and pull ten hours at the tables.
working only 18hrs a week allows this. I plan to go sorta pro next year (i.e. no work for a while other than poker) - maybe playing only 20hrs a week though.
As for study - it varies a lot. I should study more. I tend to find a topic I want to study hard and then nuke it over 4-6hrs during a week. This involves a bunch of internet forum and strat browsing, saving relevant links and then often printing them for reading and note-taking with caffeine. Often the catalyst is a post on FTR - especially one liners from Fnord, nutsinho, deanglow, spenda, others +, and even more importantly, I'll often spend some solid time on posts from Spoon. I'd say 10hrs a month of proper study is more than I'd normally do
your post is interesting. I do manage to keep doing a lot, but poker definitely has an impact on my life - and not always positive. I've been taking care not to let poker stop me sleeping/eating/working optimally, and especially to keep going out and doing the things that make life magic. $$$ are far from everything - especially when walking back along the beach with aching muscles sipping beer with climbing-buddies as the sun is setting, spinning shit about the amazing climbing session just finished and those yet to come....
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daven
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roadtripping the xmas-new year buzz fantastic has rolled back home this arvo. Things are feeling good.
December was about 25k hands of running and playing bad.
Add some rakeback, somehow some net table profits, some bonus/loyalty thing, and it was still profitable.
new year post to come.
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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