Keith struggles in life in the absence of werewolf
08-09-2011 03:56 AM
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Keith struggles in life in the absence of werewolf | |
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08-09-2011 04:07 AM
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meh if i was being owed money from a stakee I'd probably do the same... | |
08-09-2011 07:30 AM
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maybe its just me but other than a weekly check in there's just not much you can do. estalking them is v lame imo. not that getting fucked out of monies isnt lame but estalking just is not productive nor does it help you get your monies back | |
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08-12-2011 01:02 PM
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he's on merge network? | |
08-12-2011 02:40 PM
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Maybe just go and win your money back, I can't imagine it would take long for him to tilt off a few buyins. | |
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10-02-2011 03:21 AM
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Updates? | |
10-04-2011 03:47 PM
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still not been paid anything yet by Gary who has claimed that he couldn't afford to as he left his job. Was reading the drunk thread today and saw his post and thought ..WTF looked up his posts on 2+2 and saw that hes been busy trying to get staked again and been playing on stars and party in tourneys. |
10-04-2011 04:12 PM
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Oops... | |
10-04-2011 05:14 PM
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His priority lies in being "100% commited" to taking someone else's money to lose and never paying them back. What a complete loser. | |
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10-04-2011 07:29 PM
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I pmed the links to the guy that asked ....and not sure what gary's reply means , could be read either way. Not sure on the etiquette of posting FTRs staking forum link on 2+2's staking forum . rather go through a mod giving the go ahead to do it , or let a mod verify the links substantiate that gary hasn't paid. |
Last edited by Keith; 10-04-2011 at 07:33 PM. | |
10-04-2011 09:42 PM
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he just posted in the BC today http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...tg-188862.html | |
10-05-2011 05:30 AM
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lol such a degen. |
10-06-2011 12:34 PM
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10-06-2011 12:47 PM
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His latest post from that thread: | |
10-06-2011 08:47 PM
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I don't know if it makes a difference that that has all been posted on 2p2 but is FTR really going to keep tolerating his shit? Unbelievable. |
10-07-2011 06:42 AM
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BAN HAMMER TIME! | |
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10-07-2011 07:05 AM
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you have exactly 48 hours to pay keith back or be banned from here forever. | |
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10-07-2011 11:15 AM
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10-07-2011 03:07 PM
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thanks Bikes and thanks to those giving support . I still have a lot more dirt I can throw gary's way....all due to the research(or e-stalking) i did. |
10-07-2011 03:38 PM
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what about a home address? | |
10-07-2011 04:35 PM
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I can understand being in debt. I've been in debt a few times myself and people were always kind and patient to me. But to pull this shit without the intention of paying it back is unacceptable and I won't tolerate or allow this kind of behavior on FTR. If you value your reputation or you consider yourself a decent human being at all you will pay Keith back. | |
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10-07-2011 06:43 PM
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This totally sums up my feelings. Gary said he was hard up , had left his job so I was patient and waited and hardly made a fuss about it(i.e 6 emails in 3 months). To find out that he had a job and was playing and losing a fair bit of money that he could have used to repay me whilst claiming to be hard up meant that he was taking liberties to put it kindly. |
10-09-2011 05:15 AM
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little bit of research yesterday and i came up with a phone number for his dad. Rang him up and asked to speak to Gary and was told he had gone out. Told his dad what had happened and was then told that they sometimes didn't see him for a week or more.(yeah right). So i'm pretty confident that I have a home address for him. Told his dad that he ought to try and get Gary some counselling over his gambling. Checked with his dad that his son was 29 and he said yeah he's about that age. |
10-09-2011 06:25 AM
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We tolerate a lot here at FlopTurnRiver. Trolls, morons, the list goes on. But I will not tolerate nor will anyone else abusing the good faith of others in such a malicious way. | |
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10-09-2011 06:28 AM
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booyakasha | |
10-09-2011 06:47 AM
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What a dick! Keith, aren't you a farmer? If so, you must be a pretty big guy, right? I think you'd be well within your rights to go kick his ass. I'm not really one to promote violence in general, but slevin is treating you like a complete mug and deserves an ass kicking. And better he gets it off a nice guy like you as opposed to some bad ass gangsta wannabe who hangs round at casinos. | |
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10-09-2011 08:27 AM
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Well I'm not into violence either even if i do feel like beating him up. Bruises heal. I'm going for something that is going to hurt him an awfull lot more . How is a gambling addict gonna cope without access to poker sites. Already emailed Dragthebar today to warn them not to stake him as part of their staking program if he happens to apply and asked if the really want to have him advertising them. PM'd the people he applied for stakes off at 2+2 and told them his history . They have all replied and thanked me for letting them know about him and that he wouldn't get a stake off them. By posting his lies on 2+2 he made it personal.My WW history should have told him I don't let go when i go after someone. He made a BIG mistake. |
10-09-2011 08:30 AM
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10-09-2011 08:41 AM
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and to quote shakespeare in hamlet |
10-09-2011 09:04 AM
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10-09-2011 11:28 AM
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10-09-2011 02:47 PM
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Fk me. Gary has behaved like a complete tosser. | |
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10-09-2011 04:02 PM
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cant believe hes done all of thios over $120 only (and i mean no insult over the amount) just that it surely isnt worth all the hassle as everyone hsa pointed out. | |
10-09-2011 07:14 PM
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Should link this in beginners digest: "Worst known case of bankroll management in poker world." |
10-10-2011 04:33 PM
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The worst has got to be that guy who just donked off $148K in three days. | |
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10-11-2011 07:24 AM
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So he's 29, lives at home with his dad, can't hold a steady job, has problems with gambling and alcohol... This is not to excuse what he did to Keith and co. here, but you gotta pity the guy for having a really, really sad existence. | |
10-11-2011 08:50 AM
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Yep, and question the logic of staking someone like that. | |
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10-11-2011 09:01 AM
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10-11-2011 12:00 PM
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10-11-2011 05:34 PM
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Y still no ban? | |
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10-11-2011 07:13 PM
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he's banned i just didnt change his user group | |
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10-19-2011 05:28 AM
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any updates keith? | |
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10-19-2011 09:22 AM
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not heard a thing from him, just put some more accounts /forum names on 2+2 |
10-19-2011 11:57 AM
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10-19-2011 01:49 PM
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well he might have ripped us off , but anyone doing any research hopefully shouldn't get ripped off by him in the future. You just have to look at his staking request threads atr 2+2 and there's no mention of the fact that he continually busts his account by playing underrolled. |
10-20-2011 05:52 AM
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heres anther gary special.he had been told to leave tables when they dropped to 6 or fewer players |
10-20-2011 06:19 PM
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received an email from Gary unhappy at the way I've handled things recently but he'll pay me sometime in the next 3 months. hmmm |
10-20-2011 11:51 PM
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I guess you can cross your fingers he heaters again sometime in the next 3 months | |
10-21-2011 01:50 AM
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unhappy with the way YOU have handled things?? WTF?? | |
10-21-2011 02:53 AM
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if you guys are ever looking to stake someone make sure you get their home address and find out a way to verify it is theirs. if they aren't interested in providing any sort of collateral for a loan which you won't even be doing a credit check for then just forget it and look for someone else. | |
10-21-2011 03:51 AM
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10-21-2011 04:42 AM
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m2m2cap2100bb2booze2cap2snechase2house2car2heartle ss | |
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10-21-2011 09:01 AM
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ic wat u did thar. He's calling you a bumhunting shortstacker m2m2seekvengenceuponbikes | |
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10-21-2011 09:04 AM
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10-21-2011 07:14 PM
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10-22-2011 03:09 AM
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Last edited by !Luck; 10-23-2011 at 09:23 AM. | |
10-22-2011 06:17 AM
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Gary is happily plodding along getting his gambling fix. Just look at this month on his stars account. Quite happy to drop 22$ at a time on tourneys.Since the stake ended hes now down almost double what he owes on stars tourneys alone without allowing for what he has lost playing live , and online cash games. |
10-22-2011 11:50 AM
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Keith, don't get too obsessed with getting your money back. He cannot help himself, since all heavier forms of addiction require a professional help. Think of it this way. When you gave money to him, you actually gave money to the fruit spinning machine in casino. You really cannot expect to profit long term at all. |
10-22-2011 08:26 PM
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Fruit spinning machines are so much fucking fun! | |
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10-23-2011 07:53 AM
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K no one else is allowed to post in this thread anymore except keith and slevin and the mods. | |
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10-27-2011 05:56 AM
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I'm not obsessed with getting the money back. KRC (one of the other stakers) has said that he will pay off what Gary owes as he feels he didn't follow through with what he said he would do. I have put it to the other stakers. I think that that is an honourable thing that he has offered and put it to the other stakers to get their opinions. |
10-27-2011 07:32 AM
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Wow, I had never seen this thread before keith just sent me a link, otherwise I would have paid this off long ago. This is just so crazy out of hand. |
Last edited by krcmdc; 10-27-2011 at 07:45 AM. | |
10-27-2011 01:53 PM
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Just to confirm that KRC has shipped me 120$. |
10-27-2011 02:56 PM
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Not the outcome most of us wanted to see but I'm glad for you Keith and I'm glad this got resolved. | |
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10-27-2011 03:04 PM
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I had my fingers crossed for murder/suicide...oh well, better luck next time | |
10-27-2011 04:19 PM
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I've emailed Gary to tell him that KRC has paid off what he owed. |
10-28-2011 05:43 PM
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Having read this thread, this whole thing makes me really sad. He fucked up a golden oppourtunity to be coached by quality players and really grow and improve. I'd do so much for something like that, and he shat all over it. | |
Last edited by Angryafrican; 10-28-2011 at 05:48 PM. | |
10-29-2011 11:06 AM
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krc is a stand up dude, glad to see his first legit post on ftr even if it is just coming in to settle the drama. It's at least a shitton better than his epic fail in the stop bumping old threads thread. | |
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10-30-2011 06:57 AM
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10-30-2011 07:47 PM
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Okay guys, I have question for you, especially for those who did some coaching. It doesn't refer to Gary directly, but I think he is a good example of a type of person I want to talk about. And lets also set aside that some of you didn't complete your part of a deal (coaching sessions or whatever). |
10-30-2011 08:13 PM
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I used to have degenerate tendencies with poker. For example the first time I started building a roll, I played 25NL with $50. ran it up to $450 over like a month, got drunk and sat on a 200NL table and lost most of it. | |
10-30-2011 08:23 PM
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Yes, ...and no... |
10-31-2011 06:36 AM
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10-31-2011 10:32 AM
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ok fine, eventually I learned to only play 1 or 2 stakes above my normal limit (and donkaments) while drunk. Also drunk live is fine cuz everyone's terrible and it's good for your image. Also remember to counterbalance the booze with weed cuz the booze makes you laggy and the weed makes you paranoid and nitty, so the right balance is magic! | |
10-31-2011 10:34 PM
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HAHAHA i just waisted 2 hours of my life on this thread but it was the best entertainment i had on the internet ( besides midgetporn) i had in my life! Where else can u follow a story that shows you the rags and riches of poker.. I almost cried when he blew that 3k live donkament roll. But it didn't take me long to go into hysterical lolling when he added all the gambool details , like roulete games etc. jokes. By then i felt like this story can't get any more dramatic but little did i know. The whole staking story was kind of boring though. What did the stakers expect , i mean cmon ROFL. I guess this is the only thread that shows you the road from 200 nl to 2 nl. Lulz and i always felt like the worst gambool degen when i spanked of a hundo on stars for shits and giggles. |
Last edited by TheLongGrind; 10-31-2011 at 10:46 PM. | |