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First and foremost, let me thank all of you guys for being great members of the forum. You guys are insightful and real patient with newbies (like myself). I'm really glad I joined the forum. Well, let me start off by introducing myself. The name's AJ and I'm from Long Island, NY. I'm only 22, but have been playing poker for about 4 years. I solely played live poker at casinos and at cash games around here. I would deposit $300 on FTP to play at the 200NL. Talk about severe underrolling. I understood the 20BI rule, but I refused to use it. Hey, if I don't need that much for live poker, why would I need that much for online poker? Online poker is so much easier! Damn, I was wrong. I would have my money taken from me by a bad beat or by simply getting rolled over. And my whole bankroll would be gone. This is the year I've chosen to do it right. I chose to work my way up the rankings using correct bankroll management. This was the first step in the right direction and I'm glad I did it. It's the same game I love...without playing with scared money. Therefore, I am playing better than I ever have (live or online). I chose to play on Pokerstars (BooG690) due to it's low rake at the nano/microstakes. I love FTP and their rewards, but I can't be losing all my money to rake. I am currently on my free trial of Pokertracker and will be trying out HEM afterwards. I will be making my decision when those trials are over. I am not practicing optimal bankroll management. At these small stakes, I am definitely on the aggressive side of it. I sit down at the 5NL tables with $10 (which leaves me with only 13 buy-ins). I am doing this since I believe I have a great feel for these stakes. On the other hand, I will not be moving up to 10NL until I have 22-25BI's for that level. I plan on increasing my bankroll requirements as I go up in levels (this is speculation and is subject to change): 10 BI's for $5NL 22-25BI's for $10NL 28-30BI's for $25NL My bankroll is currently at $130 from a deposit of $50 on January 28th, 2009. It hasn't been easy though. I started my online poker career by losing $36 and being down to my last $14. I had a nasty session on February 13, 2009 where I had to get off and regroup. I was donking my chips away and not taking it seriously at all. I thought I could bluff all these 2NL guys away and I wasn't playing my game.  It was hard for me to adapt to playing for pennies, but I had to...so I did. I began to take it more seriously and played the game of poker I've learned to play. I clamped down and really got going. Since the day after my big down session (that would be on February 14th, 2009), I've been on a complete tear. I'm playing at 28.87BB/100 and have won $118.46 in 9,469 hands. I understand it may be a heater for now...but I'm also playing good poker.  That is not to say I still don't have a lot to learn...because I do. I'm actually still pretty clueless and I will admit that. And like anything else, I will remain clueless throughout my entire career. There will always be something about poker for me to learn and master...and I like it that way. I am working on having a wider range in position and not overvaluing my hands (I do this a lot in the blind). I become very aggressive with just OK hands. These are some of the weaknesses that I must fix.  I would love to get up to 25NL and take everything from there. Of course, in the long run, I'd love to end up winning the WSOP...but one step at a time. So I will start my operations thread here...on my route to 25NL. |
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I just finished a session on 5NL. I was super distracted on this one...checking the Noob HU Tournament thread. I shouldn't have been playing...but I kept on. I went up about $19 but then donked away $9 by calling down with bad hands. Played 460 hands at a 25.72BB/100 winrate. As I was saying though, I entered myself in the n00b HU Tourney. I think it'll be a good learning experience and a good way to really be part of this community. I'm pretty excited for it. I actually entered a $5+$.25 HU 4-man SnG to get some practice. I won but noticed heads-up is a totally different game than playing FR. I would like to get more practice runs going...too bad I can't invite other players to play or I would use you guys for practice runs. Well, anyway, I took the $15 I won from the HU tourney and used $5 of it to pay for my entry into the Noob HU Tournament. Should be a good one! I wasn't only distracted by the tournament though. I also noticed that FTP has opened up an academy. I saw it on the homepage of FTR and went to it. It seems to be really creative and they have challenges for beginners to complete. I wanted to give it a shot but was wrapping up the session (actually, I was starting to get beat up due to the distractions so I had to get off!). Anyway, I signed up for the Academy and I will now be using their videos and challenges to hone my skills. They even give free stuff for those that complete challenges and gather points. I like their clothing so I'll definitely be doing this. I will be messing around with the academy before moving up to 25NL. I am going up rather quickly and think I have time to stop and learn a little bit more. FTP hit it big with the Academy...they are obviously targeting beginners and doing a great job at it. First they added nanostakes and now they have an academy. I may just have to switch over to FTP. Once my rakeback goes through...I'm there! |
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| BooG690 |
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So I tried out the FTP Academy and I enjoyed it. The fact that I am earning points for doing things that I should be doing makes it fun. The fact that you put the lessons you learn from the video straight into practice makes it interesting. To be honest, I always liked FTP better than PokerStars...but the rake makes it impossible for me to play there. A 90 cent pot is raked 5 cents on FTP while it's not raked at all on PokerStars. It's impossible for me to switch. Perhaps when I move up to 10NL or 25NL and the pots become bigger I'll switch. As of now, I cannot afford to. However, more on the FTP Academy. I did one challenge where I had to win 3 consecutive times on the button. I was 4-tabling. The challenge actually made me play worse since I was forcing the issue on the button. I did not make as much as I should have...but making profit wasn't the point of this session. Trying out the FTP Academy was my main focus. Besides, FTP isn't my main bankroll anyway. I'm not looking to build that up...I just deposited on there before I found out PokerStars had a better rake system. Anyway, that's all for now. I wish I could switch over to FTP...but not until my rakeback kicks in. *sigh* |
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| gl dude, ill be keeping an eye on this blog. way to turn things around in Feb!! | ||
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Judging from you positional stats, you open too much UTG with 16/12. Get it down to like 14/12 or 14/10 something along those lines would probably be good, but if you could get it even tighter, its better. I've heard some advice that says your UTG open should be half of what your button open is. For example (this is 6-max) my UTG open is 12/11, but my BTN open is 25/19. |
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Another thing I must work on is my aggression. I am too aggressive post flop and leak money. I must control the pot and learn I don't need to win every pot. Not winning every pot would make me less of a target and keep my winning very subtle. I read somewhere that you should be winning money...and have others look at your stack and wonder "Where'd all that come from?" |
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| Thanks for showing me support on my OP. Best of luck to you bro. You're a bit more advanced than I am, so I'll be looking to you for guidance! | ||
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If I bet as a bluff, I should be thinking "am I getting better hands to fold? Is it likely that he will fold x% of the time to a y sized bet to make it +EV?". If I bet for value, I should be thinking "am I getting worst hands to call? Am I ahead of enough of his range that this is a good value bet?".
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I just finished having another great session. I played 797 hands in 3 hours and 17 minutes running at 40.23BB/100. I'm up $32.06 for tonight's session. I'm only $14 away from having sufficient bankroll for 10NL. I've been playing with $10 (deep stack) at the table which would explain my moving through 5NL very quickly (only 3,336 hands in so far). I am beating 5NL at 17.67BB/100 which I feel is just a heater. I've heard many times that if I am going to play with $10 at the table, I might as well buy-in to the 10NL games. I don't feel right skipping an entire level. In fact, I may add a rule for myself that I cannot move up until I have about 8-10K hands for that specific level. I don't want to move up a level because I was on some crazy heater. I feel that I still have much to learn down at 5NL. We'll see how everything goes and I'll play it by ear. I'll probably end up playing only one table of 10NL at a time and have my other three as 5NL until I feel I'm ready. I made two mistakes tonight; one that could have been disastrous. On the flop, instead of typing in ".25", I typed in "25." This put me all in for my $15+. I was c-betting here and a call would have killed my session. Thank God he didn't call...but I really do have to be careful. My second mistake is of the same, but opposite (yup, I said it), nature. I wanted to type in "3," but instead I typed in ".3." He ended up calling the $.30 with nothing...so he probably would have ended up folding to the $3 bet but I still have to be careful! I ran into Ragnar4 at the tables today...I let him know about the Noob HU Tournament and told him to log-on to straighten things out. I never really spoke to him on FTR and I didn't get to play a hand with him...but I did see him make $3.60. Just a fun little side note, I guess. Well, the poker part of the OP ends at the last paragraph. I had a pretty bad weekend at work. I work in the casino entertainment business as a dealer in addition to working at the warehouse packing the trucks for the jobs on the weekend. On Friday, we would pack the trucks to go out to jobs on Saturday. For my job, we took a truck that I personally did not load to my job. I was actually getting gas while the truck was getting loaded with the chips. I arrived to the warehouse on Saturday to go to the job (with three other guys). I arrived a bit late and one of the guys told me that he checked the truck and everything that was supposed to be on the truck was on. So we get to the job, we open the back, and there are NO chips (except for one case filled with different color chips than we normally use). Now obviously a casino party cannot happen without chips. We had to call a dealer that was already on his way up to go back, pick up the chips, and come to the job. This would make him (and the chips and three other dealers) 45 minutes late. So now we had to set-up the party and try to stall the beginning of the fundraiser. We do so by offering a tutorial for the first half hour...but she wants to jump right into the games. We use the minimal amount of chips among 12 different tables. Luckily we get by for the next half hour and the chips arrive. The fundraiser actually ended up a huge success and the client was very happy. However, my boss was not. This situation should have never happened. Of course, me being the new guy, I was blamed for it and it is assumed that I loaded the truck. I do not want to place the blame or rat out anybody...and she didn't ask me what happened anyway. And today (I am also in charge of inventory), we took inventory and two chip cases are MIA. This coupled with Saturday's catastrophe probably spells out me getting the boot. I just had to get that final paragraph about work out. It sucks...and I can't really tell anybody at work about it. Well, that's it for tonight. Maybe if I get the boot from work, I'll be able to play more poker and post more. 
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Hey nice session  Why don't you talk to your boss? Tell them what you just said here. You'll probabally feel better for clearing the air. People have inventories for a reason, so they can keep an eye on stock etc... You've done your job you've noticed things are missing, you just need to point it out now. Unless of course you're security as well in which case I guess it's a bit different! My advice is that problems are never as bad as we think they are, and it's dwelling on them that can often make them seem worse. Just be truthful - ok you were a few minutes late, from the sounds of things that's your only transgression here! Don't take the blame for other people man! Good luck :P |
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So...for those of you who read my post about work, it turns out one of the guy was fucking with me and hiding two chip cases. He knew I was stressed out and the prick just chooses to add to it. Unfortunately, I couldn't say anything because he happens to be the boss' boyfriend. On top of that, my car battery was pissing me off and I didn't get home until late. I was a bit tired...too tired to play a cash game so a true session will not be going on tonight. I have to start practicing my HU game anyway. I have that Noob HU Tourney starting and the matches have been chosen. I play Outlaw in my first match. We'll see how that goes. I'm going to be using the 4-man $5+$.25 HU SnG's to practice my game (even though they are a bit different due to increasing blinds). Well, that's really it for now. I guess I'll post back and let everybody know how my practice sessions went. |
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Good luck dude! Thats pretty homo about the work thing though, hit him in the nuts with a case of chips next time he walks by imo. If you wanna practice some HU some time that would be fine dude. We could do the 1/2 play money tables on stars just like the tourn format. Its not likely we'll face each other unless we both get to finals lol. Shoot me a PM if u want.
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So HU poker isn't my game. It doesn't bother me much because I just started playing it...but I am competitive and I DO want to win this tournament (fat chance...but I still would love to win!). I played 7 4-man HU SnGs tonight. I made the final two plenty of times...but only won one of them. I am down about $12 (plus rake) for the night. I will continue practice rounds tomorrow as I have my first match with Outlaw on Thursday at 10pm (for any of you guys that would like to watch). I find my biggest leak is not believing my opponent has a thing. I don't do this in the matter of calling bets...I do this in the sense of overvaluing my hand and betting into a made hand. I noticed I did that a lot...and chose to be less aggressive in my last SnG. I won that SnG. This gives me something to work on for tomorrow...hopefully I can fix (or at least put a temporary patch on) this leak for Thursday's match. That's really it for tonight. I was really tired 4 hours ago...and now I'm exhausted. Off to bed for me. |
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I didn't post last night because I promised myself I'd wake up early this morning and go to the gym...and I did. I have to get my ass in shape for the summer.  Anyway, last night was not a good night for poker. I continued to practice HU play with the 4-man $6+$.25 HU SnGs. I lost one but won the next one. Not half bad...the final table of the game I won was really good and went back and forth a lot. Twas a really good game. I sat down at a cash game and started to play. My head really wasn't in the game...and I was geared toward HU (more aggressive) play. I couldn't make the switch back to cash too easily. I lost two big hands...one flush losing to a full house and had some guy hit a runner-runner flush on me. The poker gods weren't on my side and I was getting frustrated. I chose to take a break. I was down $9.35 in a mere 166 hands. I took my break from poker and watched Black Hawk Down. Sick movie. Anyway, after the movie, I went back to playing poker. It was an up & down battle. However, disaster struck soon after. Another runner-runner flush (yes, I threw protector bets out there). I got hit with that and lost $10. I went on tilt and lost $14.80 for the session. I got off the tables soon after the runner-runner...though I should have gotten off sooner. I made a couple of decisions I was not happy with. So yesterday's sessions saw me down $24.15. It happens...but I should have a stop loss in place. Perhaps 2 BIs? I don't know what a standard stop loss is. I am starting to NOT look at my PokerTracker as much...and it does seem to be working. It's kind of like at the gym...I can't look at that stupid display on the treadmill; I have to put my towel over it (eh, bad analogy). I have chosen to begin to work on my bet sizing. I have to conceal my pre-flop hands better and throw out a standard bet. I will do so based on my position. Lastly, I took a look at the 10NL tables (back when I was up around $184). They really do not seem too hard. The players play about the same (though I actually feel they are a bit worse). Hopefully I can reach that plateau soon and continue my quest to 25NL. |
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| GL Boog, glad everything turned out ok at work too. What a prick. I will be following your progress too. And if you ever want to do some HU (play chips of course) let me know. I am usually avail. weekday nights after 6pm central time. I could definitley use the practice as well. | ||
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| I chose not to play poker tonight since I'm pretty tired and I play really poorly when I'm tired. Instead, I chose to watch some videos on FTP Academy and purchase both Mike Caro's Book of Tells and HoCG. Hopefully both will be good reads and will strengthen my poker game. I will be reading HoCG first...and then read Caro's Book of Tells to strengthen my live game (don't forget, I'm a live player at heart). I may take off from cash games this weekend and focus on winning the HU Tourney. Again...this will be my first real runs at HU, but I am very competitive and would love to win it. And after yesterday's bad session, I figure some cooling off and getting reading done wouldn't be bad. | ||
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Well, here's another post from me. Today, I lost a couple of dollars in my attempts to practice heads-up. I won one and lost about 6 HU tourneys. I'm not very good...I will admit that. But hey...I'm trying to get better! I will say this about the heads-up tourneys though...they DO help with blind stealing in FR games. When folds come all the way around...I am more aggressive when I am either blind in stealing the other's blind. Even when I am the button, HU play has helped with being more aggressive. Aside from losing a lot of HU tourneys, I played pretty decently at the FR tables. I had my aces cracked by AK for a big hand (for 116 BB)...but that's as bad as the beats got. I guess I evened it out when I caught ANOTHER AA against AK...and villain caught a K on the flop and ended up shoving his TPTK. I ended up $14.43 in 347 hands (41.59 BB/hr). I was up $23 at one point...but hey, we all suffer bad beats. However, I am down about $12 on the night from those damn HU tourneys. I'm beginning to widen my range mid-late position. I am beginning to play suited connectors. I also blame HU play for this...but I like it. I will continue to practice HU play until I get better at it. I agree when people say it is the purest form of poker you can play. The cards simply do not matter. I thoroughly enjoy it and hope I can one day master this form of poker. I end this post with my suited connectors: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com MP1 ($5) MP2 ($5.22) CO ($10.14) Hero (Button) ($12.69) SB ($2.35) BB ($1.93) UTG ($5.46) UTG+1 ($9.75) Preflop: Hero is Button with  ,  1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero bets $0.25, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.20 Flop: ($0.57)  ,  ,  (2 players)UTG+1 bets $2, Hero calls $2 Turn: ($4.57)  (2 players)UTG+1 bets $2, Hero calls $2 River: ($8.57)  (2 players)UTG+1 bets $5.50 (All-In), Hero calls $5.50 Total pot: $19.57 | Rake: $0.95 Results: Hero had 3  , 4 (straight, five high).UTG+1 had A , 10 (three of a kind, Aces).Outcome: Hero won $18.62 |
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Ya missed our heads up match last night ya slacker!  I sat here waiting from 9:30 to midnight  Message me if you still want to play, I can play tomorrow anytime or any night at 10:00. |
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Boo, I have now read your OP and no longer think you are a bastard. Let me explain. The expression on your avatar's face is so irritating that it made me dislike you and subconsciously take less interest in your posts. Now I have taken the time to read your OP however, I have overcame the negatvie feelings caused by that fucking guy in the painting. I have no idea who that guy is, but I fucking hate him. If this is a picture of you, I am very sorry and please disregard everything I've just said! Good luck in the OP man, and I'm glad the work thing didn't turn out to be too serious. |
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Anywho...I finally have time to post on my OP. The last two days were pretty interesting for me. Yesterday, I lost $22.95. I was playing good poker, but I kept getting beat by hands such as 68o and 7To (both these hands cracked my aces). It's difficult for me to put them on these hands since people usually don't call a PFR with them. I guess I have to accept the fact that players at microstakes will be calling with these hands. Unfortunately, this makes it difficult for me to assign a hand range to players. Hopefully this'll become easier at the higher stakes. Today, I basically got to stay home and play poker most of the day. I started out by losing my two HU matches with Outlaw. I definitely have to work on my HU play. Anyway, I went on to win $13.24 in 755 hands (17.54 BB/100). I needed this win...yesterday kind of discouraged me. Outlaw introduced me to a HUGE help with table selection. It is the table stats averages for VPIP and PFR. This will help me stay at loose tables and avoid nitty tables. Outlaw, if you're reading this, THANKS BUDDY! If anybody reading this is interested in doing this for their own HUD (for PT3): - Configure | Configure HUD | Configure HUD - Cash/Tournament (whichever) - Group tab | New - Name the group "Table Stats" - Where is says "Show:" use the "Table Averages: Show in Table" option - Click the "Stats" Tab - Now double-click VP$IP and PFR This should help with your table selection! Outlaw likes to avoid tables under a 30 VPIP. I personally don't mind it below 30...as long as it isn't below 25. Anyway, I am now $58 away from $200 to go up to 10NL. I hope to get out of 5NL this week. I don't want to rush things...but I really want to get out now (after all the sick beats with hands that shouldn't have been in the hand). Here's the biggest hand from today's session...I slowplayed it, but it paid off. Thank God I didn't get hit with a full house (and if I did, I woulda been on uber-tilt): PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com UTG+1 ($7.20) MP1 ($5.99) MP2 ($5.14) CO ($5.70) Button ($2.38) SB ($4.93) Hero (BB) ($18.85) UTG ($9.30) Preflop: Hero is BB with  , UTG calls $0.05, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, CO checks, Button calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero checks Flop: ($0.22)  , ,  (5 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.20, 2 folds, Button calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20 Turn: ($0.82)  (3 players)Hero checks, UTG bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60 River: ($2.62)  (3 players)Hero bets $1.53, UTG raises to $8.45 (All-In), Button calls $1.53 (All-In), Hero calls $6.92 Total pot: $21.05 | Rake: $1.05 Results: Button mucked K  , 6 (flush, King high).Hero had 3 , A (flush, Ace high).UTG had 5 , A (three of a kind, fives).Outcome: Hero won $20.07 |
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So last night I turned a session that was just going awful into a decent win. I also played a shitload of hands and proved to myself I have a decent amount of endurance to hang out and play online. I won $17.59 over 1,413 (12.45 BB/100). Pretty proud of myself...this session became a reminder of the basics that I must remember (and that I basically had forgotten). The first thing I forgot, but was reminded of on this session, is the difference between a winning poker player and a losing one. I personally believe it is the most important thing for a poker player...patience. You canNOT get restless at the poker table and play reckless. Do NOT play bad hands just because "this ATo is the best looking thing I've seen in hours." I've had a few bad sessions in a row...and I guess that leaked over to my first 500 hands. Additionally, I was at a very fishy table and wanted to be in as many hands as possible. Basically, I was trying to force the issue and playing bad hands OOP. I then slapped myself in the face, straightened myself out, and went on to have a great session. The second thing that this session reinforced (a running theme from my last post) is table selection. This is huge. I played with fish all day...and LOVED it. It was too easy. Nobody would stand up to me...and they'd pay me off nicely when I had the nuts. Using the table selection HUD, check off "sit out next blind" once my table reached 21 or below. Why play at this nitty table when there's a fishy table waiting for me? This was extremely important. With these two ideas reinforced, I hope to get back on the horse and get my ass to 10NL. Hopefully I can have another good session tonight. See you all at the felt! Here's my final hand from last night btw...the poker gods gave me a good night present: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Button ($9.33) Hero (SB) ($10) BB ($4.95) UTG ($5.31) MP ($4.57) Preflop: Hero is SB with ,  1 fold, MP bets $0.15, Button calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MP calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35 Flop: ($1.55) ,  ,  (3 players)Hero bets $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1 Turn: ($3.55)  (2 players)Hero bets $2.20, Button calls $2.20 River: ($7.95)  (2 players)Hero bets $3, Button calls $3 Total pot: $13.95 | Rake: $0.65 Results: Button had J , J (three of a kind, Jacks).Hero had Q , Q (three of a kind, Queens).Outcome: Hero won $13.30 |
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glad things went well. somethign to think about: bet sizing. when you hit the flop what you should be thinking is "how can I get MAX value from villains range" - easiest way to do this is to get it all in of course. PF is fine, FLop is fine. I'd be looking to bet the turn more like $2.50 - $3 not only to charge him for draws but also to get the most out of made hands. Then, the pot on the river will be about ~$8.50 and villain will have about $5.50 left in his stack and we can comfortably put him all in and take all his monies. ez game. |
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Yeah I agree with Sil. You should be shipping the rest of villains stack in on this river. He wont fold anything for the rest of his chips that he'll call for $3 with. His range is likely pretty strong here after making it to this river in a 3 bet pot so just take all his monies! Table selections so important man I agree it makes every sesh so much easier. I've just started 6 tabling and the hassle of chopping and changing tables has made me neglect it of late. It's defo something I need to get back into the habit of. |
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What kind of stats are you looking at when considering joining a table?? I dont have program like PT3 so I look at tables and try to pick one's with a higher $/pot and fairly high ave play/pot. |
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The most important thing for me is average players/pot. The higher, the better obviously. These players obviously limp into pots, have a wide range, and love to see the flop (general characteristics of fish). A wide range isn't bad...but they simply do not play their cards correctly. Post-flop play is usually God awful...make them pay to see that flop! Use waiting lists...be patient. You don't HAVE to sit down right now. Your patience will pay off when you get on a table with eight fish. And get PT3! I'm still on my 60-day free trial. It makes the game 100x easier and is worth the free trial. Once my free trial for PT3 ends, I will be giving HEM a shot. After that, I will certainly be buying one. I suggest you take a look into it Vinland. |
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This is how today's session has been going so far. I'm posting this on a break: Hand 1: Villain was a maniac which explains my all-in PF. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Hero (UTG) ($13.01) UTG+1 ($13.77) MP1 ($7.80) MP2 ($7.31) CO ($8.61) Button ($5.45) SB ($5.54) BB ($2.43) Preflop: Hero is UTG with  ,  Hero calls $0.05, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 1 fold, MP2 bets $0.30, 4 folds, Hero raises to $13.01 (All-In), 1 fold, MP2 calls $7.01 (All-In) Flop: ($14.74) , ,  (2 players, 2 all-in)Turn: ($14.74) (2 players, 2 all-in)River: ($14.74)  (2 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $14.74 | Rake: $0.70 Results: Hero had 3 , 3 (three of a kind, threes).MP2 had A , 10 (flush, Ace high).Outcome: MP2 won $14.04 Hand 2: Damnit PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com UTG ($10.05) UTG+1 ($3.41) MP1 ($4.36) MP2 ($1.96) MP3 ($1.88) CO ($4.03) Hero (Button) ($10.16) SB ($9.67) BB ($6.54) Preflop: Hero is Button with ,  3 folds, MP2 bets $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.35, MP2 calls $0.30 Flop: ($1.22)  ,  ,  (3 players)BB bets $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.10, BB calls $0.80 Turn: ($3.42)  (2 players)BB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $8.66 (All-In), BB calls $3.54 (All-In) River: ($13.50)  (2 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $13.50 | Rake: $0.65 Results: Hero mucked A , A (two pair, Aces and nines).BB had 9 , J (three of a kind, nines).Outcome: BB won $12.85 Hand 3: Damn aces again! PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com MP2 ($3.78) CO ($3.18) Button ($5.79) SB ($3.73) BB ($13.13) UTG ($5.49) Hero (MP1) ($10.57) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , UTG calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.20, MP2 raises to $0.50, 5 folds, Hero raises to $1.70, MP2 calls $1.20 Flop: ($3.52) , ,  (2 players)Hero bets $8.87 (All-In), MP2 calls $2.08 (All-In) Turn: ($7.68)  (2 players, 2 all-in)River: ($7.68) (2 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $7.68 | Rake: $0.35 Results: Hero had A , A (two pair, Aces and tens).MP2 had 8 , 8 (straight, Queen high).Outcome: MP2 won $7.33 |
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| BooG690 |
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Add this to the list: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com MP3 ($5.25) CO ($6.90) Button ($7.58) SB ($1.37) BB ($9.12) UTG ($1.28) UTG+1 ($5.61) Hero (MP1) ($13.47) MP2 ($6.36) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with ,  2 folds, Hero calls $0.05, 3 folds, Button calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, BB checks Flop: ($0.20)  , ,  (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks Turn: ($0.20)  (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.15, Button raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.70, Button raises to $5.10, Hero raises to $13.42 (All-In), Button calls $2.43 (All-In) River: ($15.26) (2 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $15.26 | Rake: $0.75 Results: Button had 9 , A (full house, nines over Jacks).Hero had 2 , 2 (full house, twos over Jacks).Outcome: Button won $14.51 |
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com BB ($1.93) UTG ($0.96) Hero (MP) ($10) CO ($1.97) Button ($1.67) SB ($10.13) Preflop: Hero is MP with ,  UTG calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.15 Flop: ($0.67)  ,  , (3 players)UTG bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.35 Turn: ($1.47) (2 players)UTG bets $0.36 (All-In), Hero calls $0.36 River: ($2.19) (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $2.19 | Rake: $0.10 Results: UTG had 3 , 5 (one pair, threes).Hero mucked J , A (high card, Ace).Outcome: UTG won $2.09 Alright, so I know this one isn't that much of a bad beat. But it just shows that I can't put my opponents on ANYTHING. This was actually my last hand...and it's the hand that put me over the edge. I would raise, raise, raise preflop. Donks would call with just about anything (which is what usually happens). HOWEVER, tonight they hit the fucking flop like it was their job. My aces got cracked three times, AK became useless, and I got hit with random ass straights. Tonight was the worst fucking night of poker I've had so far...and it sucks. With no stop loss in place, I lost $26.80. The bad beats were my three biggest losses in a hand and totaled $21.43. That leaves $5.37 that I legitimately lost (though I blame some of that on tilt...which is really my fault anyway). Tonight was shit...it sucked. And I can't do anything else right now but complain on my OP. A stop loss needs to put in place...though I don't think I can really follow it too well. I need to get the fuck out of 5NL...it's making me sick. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day. Rant over. |
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That is brutal my friend..... I will say this, even though you already know this, you got your money in with the best hand in most if not all cases. That first hand when your AA's were cracked is awful.....It's great whan they call you with TP crap kick but sucks whenthey hit runner2X. I had a similar session a while back. I was in 5nl but wasnt rolled for it. I lost 2 pots holding a set. Had AA's cracked by a river flush and lost w/ a str8 to bigger str8. I had to move down to 2nl and use better BR management. The thing that sucks is that it will take you probably 10X as many hands if not more to win that $$ back compared to the # of hands you lost it with. It's obvious you have been playing well so You know as well as the rest that you'll be back in no time. Good call on quitting when you did. |
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Opinions on how I played this... PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com SB ($1.94) BB ($10) UTG ($4.26) UTG+1 ($7.56) MP1 ($11.62) MP2 ($5.07) Hero (MP3) ($22.44) CO ($9.90) Button ($4.63) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5 , 53 folds, MP2 bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26, 4 folds Flop: ($0.59) 5 , Q, A (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.44, MP2 calls $0.44 Turn: ($1.47) J (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.15, MP2 raises to $2.90, Hero raises to $10.25, MP2 calls $1.47 (All-In) River: ($10.21) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $10.21 | Rake: $0.50 |
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If he had a set....too bad that sucks.... If he made that PF raise with KT.....thats ballsy and we all know that its a long term money looser.... Pretty tough to put him on that hand if he did so don't feel bad...  Lets face it there are plenty of players who would stack off with AK here or go for broke with AQ (AQ may be justified at these stakes) I assume you lost this one?... |
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Sorry to here about the session from hell man. One thing I'd defo point out though is that hand 1 with the 33 is pretty bad. Even if villains a total maniac, we don't want to be over shoving like this with a hand with such bad equity vs his range.. We're probably folding out any hand we're ahead of (hands with duces in them) and he'll be shipping 2 overs all the time and all overpairs. Our equity vs his rage for getting it in with us here is 48.5% and that's assuming he calls with any 2 suited cards, any broadways and all pairs. He probably folds more of the trash suited hands like 62s etc. So our equity goes down further and is in all likelyhood much worse than 48.5%. If he's so bad that he'll stack off and go mental with any piece of the flop, we need to call his pre flop raise will excellent implied odds and stack the guy every time we make a set. Maniacs are really fucking annoying when you're not making hands against them, but let them have a few small pots and just make sure you stack them before some nit does! |
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Update coming tomorrow...just wanted to show that it goes on! PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com MP3 ($12.40) CO ($13.04) Button ($6.67) SB ($3.29) BB ($4.84) UTG ($6.31) UTG+1 ($5.59) Hero (MP1) ($10) MP2 ($7.51) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.15 Flop: ($1.05)  , , (5 players)SB bets $0.05, UTG+1 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB calls $0.80, 1 fold Turn: ($2.80) (2 players)SB bets $2.24 (All-In), Hero calls $2.24 River: ($7.28) (2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $7.28 | Rake: $0.35 Results: SB had 5 , 6 (two pair, sixes and fives).Hero mucked A , A (one pair, Aces).Outcome: SB won $6.93 |
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Alright... so I promised an update yesterday, so here it is. I've turned this OP to a friggin' bitching and moaning OP. I didn't mean to...it just came out that way because I was frustrated and I needed somewhere to get it out. After the one session of losing $26.80, I've had three other losing sessions (though not as big) after that one. I was frustrated, I was pissed...and I couldn't take the money that I lost. But then, something from my old economics classes turned a switch, sunk costs. Sunk costs...money that has already been spent and won't be coming back. "Don't cry over spilled milk." I was so obsessed with the money I've already lost. I'd be hit once with a bad beat and I'd sink all over again. But last night was different. I chose to forget about the money I lost. A shitty beat came...and didn't bother me much. I brushed it off and kept going. Now I finally hit another winning session and it feels like a huge weight is off my shoulders. I won $9.18 in 267 hands. I'm glad with this win and ready to go again today. I am thinking of entering the $2+$.20 MTT soon...but first I want to practice on some SnGs. Well, that's it for now. I promise this OP is going to stop being a bitchy thread (for now...I'll probably hit another bad run and need to vent at some time). |
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Well, not much has changed with my situation. I'm still fighting to get my bankroll up. I played in the $2+$.20 tourney yesterday. There were 3,555 entrants. I placed 189th. Not really much of a big deal, wasn't the hardest thing to place in 189th. Harrington on Cash Games came in yesterday as well...and it's a pretty good book so far. I haven't even dived deep into it...but the ideas are rather good so far. I'm looking forward to using these ideas as I play. That's really it so far...nothing much going on...hopefully an update will come tonight. |
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Don't worry about the hands you posted man, you got the $ in good. Give yourself a pat on the back for getting some EV now gogogogogo! |
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"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
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Well, first and foremost, thanks for the support guys. I definitely appreciate it. I'm slowly but surely getting out of my first official funk. It's probably the same kind of variance everybody else experiences...but your first encounter with it is pretty tough. Since I am new, I'm not exactly sure if it's variance or I'm doing something wrong. However, I now feel that it was simply variance and I am getting out of it. Today's session went pretty well. I won $9.45 over 522 hands (18.10 BB/100). There was one hand that got me thinking...how tight is too tight? I actually wanted to fold this hand PF (being that the villain 9.05/6.19), but felt it would have been a little bit too tight. Then I figured I'd just call in case he had JJ+, AJ, or even AQ too (though this was improbable). I know I should have folded the river...I'm not even exactly sure why I called (I guess I REALLY wanted to know what he had): PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Button ($2.72) SB ($3.03) BB ($5) UTG ($5.07) UTG+1 ($7.07) MP1 ($3.84) MP2 ($3.71) Hero (CO) ($11.03) Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , AUTG calls $0.05, UTG+1 bets $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.23, 2 folds Flop: ($0.85) 7 , A, 3 (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold Turn: ($1.85) 7 (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero checks River: ($1.85) K (2 players)UTG+1 bets $1.15, Hero calls $1.15 Total pot: $4.15 | Rake: $0.20 Besides that, there weren't any other memorable hands. I will be posting more hands in the future since I notice I am lacking in that department. I am still reading Harrington on Cash Games and am also working on my MTT skills (using Soupie's MTT strategy). I will be playing in PokerStar's $2.+$.20 MTT tonight at 11:00pm ET. It's extremely easy to make the money in this tourney which makes it a safe investment and makes it great practice for MTTs. Well, that's all for now... |
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| I was gonna play that tournament but I didn't get home from work in time, so I gotta wait on the midnight one. GL to you sir! | ||
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So the donkament didn't go as planned. Just couldn't get anything going and got sucked out one hand to put me in real bad shape. Oh well, things happen. Better luck tomorrow I guess. Anyway, I a few hands in and did rather nicely. I got 93 hands in to be exact and won $8.27. I hit one big hand to be honest... PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com BB ($2) UTG ($8.06) UTG+1 ($6.95) Hero (MP1) ($10) MP2 ($9.20) CO ($4.93) Button ($6.37) SB ($8.02) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8 , 71 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, 1 fold, Button calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, BB bets $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, 2 folds, SB calls $0.45 Flop: ($2.10) 4 , 5, 6 (4 players)SB checks, BB bets $1.50 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50 Turn: ($6.60) 10 (3 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, SB calls $3.50 River: ($13.60) 7 (3 players, 1 all-in)SB checks, Hero bets $3, 1 fold Total pot: $13.60 | Rake: $0.65 Main pot: $6.60 between BB and Hero, won by Hero Side pot 1: $7 won by Hero Results: BB mucked K , A (high card, Ace).Hero had 8 , 7 (straight, eight high).Outcome: Hero won $12.95 That's really all for tonight. Hope to play and update tomorrow. See you guys! |
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nh, bet the turn bigger though. seems like the SB has about $6 left on the turn?? if this is right i probably make it like $4.50 so if he calls he's so commited on the river. although granted i dont see how he can call this turn bet then fold to a river bet. lolmissedflushdraws. ul in the mtt, variance in those is a bitch. |
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