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Rabid Dog
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08-07-2006, 04:39 AM
Post subject: Your play here
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
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$200NL game your on the button, and your delt KQo.
UTG raises to $8.
Do you Play? If so, why? If not, why? If you do, do you re raise?
Me, I folded. Why, because I had just sit down and dint have any kind of read.
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evoman
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08-07-2006, 05:14 AM
Post subject: Re: Your play here
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#2 (permalink)
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Rabid Dog
$200NL game your on the button, and your delt KQo.
UTG raises to $8.
Do you Play? If so, why? If not, why? If you do, do you re raise?
Me, I folded. Why, because I had just sit down and dint have any kind of read.
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Im new here but i'll deposite my 2 cents. I think in the absence of eny info on the raiser, the gap concept comes into play. Meaning you need a stronger hand to call here than you would to raise under the gun. I dont know every one elses requierments but to me this looks like a clear fold. Of course it all changes once you get to know the player.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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six max or full ring?
I would fold in full ring even if the KQ was suited. In six max I would call if suited but fold if unsuited.
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benny999
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4-of-a-Kind
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This seems like a bad reverse implied odds situation, meaning if you hit a pair or something marginal you will lose bigger pots from getting outkicked or up against AA/KK/sets then the ones you win from a worse kicker or a bluff. I'm thinking it's better to call or reraise with 76s or 22 then KQ.
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Rabid Dog
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by Renton
six max or full ring?
I would fold in full ring even if the KQ was suited. In six max I would call if suited but fold if unsuited.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that. It was full ring.
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Coldbrook, NS
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No reads at full ring is a fold. If opp is a loose donk you'll have your chances to get $$ from him.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
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if we know nothing about him them im folding anything here this early i cant be happy to reraise with or call to make a monster with.
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Rabid Dog
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Flush
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Ok, lets take it a few steps further. Same situation as above. This time.
1) 1-3 limpers before you...
2) 3+ limpers before you...
3) folded around to you...
Discuss offsuit or suited. Still KQ, and still no read because you've only played one orbit.
P.S. still full ring.
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Krieg1984
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Rabid Dog
Ok, lets take it a few steps further. Same situation as above. This time.
1) 1-3 limpers before you...
2) 3+ limpers before you...
3) folded around to you...
Discuss offsuit or suited. Still KQ, and still no read because you've only played one orbit.
P.S. still full ring.
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This is my basic style, obviously different tables call for tweaking it a bit.
1) Usually raise whether s00ted or offsuit. I call for balance, but mostly if people are calling big bets into small pots postflop (usually an exploitable mistake).
2) Same as 1. Remember that the tendencies of the first limper are important. He may be playing AA tricky, but the other limpers are usually just playing random assortments of low pairs, SC's, ace-x etc.
3)Due to me being very aggro and tight, I almost always raise here no matter what, with the occasional call as balance. If the blinds are being nittish preflop but have a high WSD% then I may call and see what the flop brings.
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Lukie: "Yo Fnord I was playing omaha earlier"
Lukie: "I got dealt quads"
Lukie: "but everyone folded to my raise  "
Lukie: "I was going to pwn everyone"
Fnord: "Gotta slowplay them big hands man..."
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jameseyb
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sapley, Cambs.
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4xBB raise from UTG? I'm holding a dodgy hand? I'm folding it and then waiting to see what the blinds do.
J
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