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03-26-2005, 07:15 PM
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I know a lot of peopel say chasing is bad but some people say it's good.
My friend notices I chase a lot and I admit I do. It's so hard not to chase when you flop a straight draw or flush draw.
Any suggestions on how to stop chasing?
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03-26-2005, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CoxhEd
Any suggestions on how to stop chasing?
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Learn pot odds and follow them.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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03-26-2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CoxhEd
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start making a record of every chip you put in the pot chasing vs the chips you win when you catch. This isn't the best advice since it encourages you to keep chasing, but maybe if you see it in black and white then you'll correct it. It'll take about 100 examples, probably, to get an accurate count. But it's one option.
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its easy for me not to chase. ask yourself a question, do you play poker to win money or for the rush of making draws? if you play because you like winning, you'll learn pot odds and fold bad draws. if you play for the rush of sucking out on people, you'll keep chasing.
just put faith in what people tell you. I am telling you: you will lose money chasing. you might as well just take your money and throw it away. you may feel like you do make money chasing, but you don't, you're wrong.
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Originally Posted by Greedo017
its easy for me not to chase. ask yourself a question, do you play poker to win money or for the rush of making draws? if you play because you like winning, you'll learn pot odds and fold bad draws. if you play for the rush of sucking out on people, you'll keep chasing.
just put faith in what people tell you. I am telling you: you will lose money chasing. you might as well just take your money and throw it away. you may feel like you do make money chasing, but you don't, you're wrong.
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Pot Odds always determine chasing. You are missing out on a lot of opportunities if you dont take them into effect.
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"you'll learn pot odds and fold bad draws"
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Try for 2 or 3 sessions not to chase at all
If you chase a lot you would figure out you make more money this way.
That being said chasing is dependant on pot odds as mentioned, and as everything else in poker on a lot of situational factors, but given the option of chasing everything or chasing nothing you are much better off chasing nothing
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Critical question: Limit or NL?
Bare in mind that I'm speaking in terms of generalities below. However, it's pretty accurate to say that it is just too simplistic to say chase or don't chase.
A loose limit game is mostly a game of profitable chasing; you have to understand pot odds and concepts such as pot-equity (edge). It's critical to understand that you will often be faced with scenarios in limit where you might currently be behind but it is still correct to raise on the come (for value).
In NL, very simplistically 'chasing' is not as much a part of the game. However, that being said you also have much larger implied odds working in your favour if you are up against big stacks when you do hit a strong draw. You have to be much more selective about chasing because your opponent(s) can put out a big bet on any future street that will destroy your odds of continuing on your draw in a heart beat.
Have you read any good books on poker fundamentals? If not, you should! You need to understand the game at a deeper level that just saying "I chase", or "I never chase". No offense to your friends, but don't listen to them unless they've done this reading themselves.
Pick up Sklansky's 'Theory of Poker' if you really want to understand this game. Compliment that with a good Hold'em book that focuses on the type of game you play whether it be Limit, NL, tournaments etc. We can provide specific recommendations; just ask, or follow the links off the FTR homepage.
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