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Rage2100
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06-06-2009, 04:35 PM
Post subject: Winning the maximum with a full house ($10NL).
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 719
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What is the best way to play this hand to get the maximum from it? Should I call the turn raise, or just shove it all in now? Villain was 35/23 over 53 hands. I will have $11.20 remaining if I call. Also, are the flop and turn bet sizes ok?
Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10)
Hero: ($20.70)
CO: ($5.70)
Button: ($26.45)
SB: ($7.30)
BB: ($5.60)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with T  , T  .
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.25) 7  , T  , 9 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, Button calls $1.10, 1 fold
Turn: ($3.45) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button raises to $8, Hero ??
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Robb
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Click it back - if he just calls, shove the rest in on the river. Or shove. He's not folding after his turn raise very often.
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AFchung
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UCLA
Posts: 1,179
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just raise, he seems to want to get it in
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Ragnar4
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Billings, Montana
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The better question is: Is it possible to *not* get all the money in the pot here? You could call/shove the river, you could click it back, you could just shove over here.
The only thing I don't recommend is checking the river... ever.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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Extremophile
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Stackton
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Unfortunately you don't have position on him otherwise you could let him bluff 1 more time by flatting the turn, since the guy overbets the turn and letting him bet would be more profitable. In this case I would have min raise on turn not to scare him and make 2/3 pot-bet on the river.
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poker_pup
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 130
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I'd call turn, bet small (about $4) on river. A small bet he might call out of curiousity or try to scare you off with a raise
If you shove turn, you scare off hands that might be calling or rasing a small bet on the river.
And I think your flop and turn bets were fine.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Location: Pwnsylvania
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Against some aggro reg I might timebank call and check the river, against others I could see calling and shoving the river (although I'd never do it). Here I'd just shove, CiB seems stronger than shoving.
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FateAver
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Pokerstars
Posts: 37
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I will reraise on turn , if he call just all in at the river
and hope he doesn't has quad 9
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if you click it back you're basically saying you have the nuts
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Extremophile
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Stackton
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Well this guy is not normal, he overbet the turn. minraise on turn, he will explode
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JoeShowdown
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High Card
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Call his turn raise. He is first to act on river so he most likely will go allin due to pot size. You got him cooked. Hopefully, he has jack9 and u have him colddecked. If he has a straight then if the river puts up 2 pair he could possibly get away from his straight by checkfolding. But highly unlikely as nl10 players don't like folding above average hands. A straight is above avg in absolute strength, even if 2 pair on board he will checkcall you on river lol so you got him cooked.
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by JoeShowdown
Call his turn raise. He is first to act on river so he most likely will go allin due to pot size. You got him cooked. Hopefully, he has jack9 and u have him colddecked. If he has a straight then if the river puts up 2 pair he could possibly get away from his straight by checkfolding. But highly unlikely as nl10 players don't like folding above average hands. A straight is above avg in absolute strength, even if 2 pair on board he will checkcall you on river lol so you got him cooked. |
so if he has J9 he might c/f a two pair river and call a shove on the turn?
maybe we should shove the turn
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Rage2100
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 719
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
My thinking was he had a big hand himself, as lots of these players seem to get overly excited with big hands, and raise too much. I also thought what spenda and iopq mentioned, that clicking it back looked way stronger than shoving it all in. Loads of $10NL players see an all-in as a weaker hand, and usually call, especially after putting so much in already.
I shoved, he folded. D'oh!
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revolvingiris
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,139
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does think tank cold call turn / shove river loose too much value?
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AFchung
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UCLA
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Rage2100
I shoved, he folded. D'oh!
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pretty obvious, or else this thread probably wouldn'tve been made 
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