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surviva316
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03-16-2009, 06:19 PM
Post subject: Winning big off trips?
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I use Renton's article as a crutch when I'm unsure of how to play a certain hand, but I think he's missing a tricky one by leaving out trips. I tend to check the flop if I hit trips (and I wasn't the preflop raiser obviously) because if I bet then the only calls i'm gonna get is from better hands. Is this the right play? I don't find myself winning any big pots with these hands because a lot of action often means i'm beat. How the heck do I build a pot against losing hands in this situation? (I have trouble from any position in the hand, that's why I didn't specify too much about the situation)
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LawDude
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03-16-2009, 06:30 PM
Post subject: Re: Winning big off trips?
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Originally Posted by surviva316
I use Renton's article as a crutch when I'm unsure of how to play a certain hand, but I think he's missing a tricky one by leaving out trips. I tend to check the flop if I hit trips (and I wasn't the preflop raiser obviously) because if I bet then the only calls i'm gonna get is from better hands. Is this the right play? I don't find myself winning any big pots with these hands because a lot of action often means i'm beat. How the heck do I build a pot against losing hands in this situation? (I have trouble from any position in the hand, that's why I didn't specify too much about the situation)
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I guess it depends on the tendencies of the players you play against. At the tables I play at, players with two pair (i.e., a pair to the unpaired card) on a flop that is paired tend to bet that hand. E.g., if the flop is Q66, you see people betting with a pair of queens, figuring that only 2 cards can beat them.
Further, it is very dangerous to slowplay trips. As I have posted on several occasions, you should only slowplay when your reads put you so far ahead that it is unlikely that a player draws out on you, players are likely to fold to your bet, and a player is likely to be induced to bet if you check. Trips tend to fail the first condition, as they are usually vulnerable to all sorts of hands-- trips with a better kicker, straight and flush draws, sets (which become boats on a paired flop), and, if there is an overcard to the trips on the flop (such as in the Q66 example where you flop trip sixes), a card that completes a better full house on the turn or the river.
Occasionally, it is OK to slowplay trips where there is no overcard and you have a very good kicker, say flopping KK4 rainbow when you hold AK. In that situation, the only hand that beats you is 44, and anyone else other than pocket aces would need runner-runner to draw out on you. But usually, you have to bet your trips to price out the draws and also to see if there's someone else out there with a better hand.
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St8ofN8
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I only slowplay trips if the board is clear of any landmines. If there are draws out there I'm making them pay for the next card.
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AFchung
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in a limped pot if i happen to flop trips OOP, i notice that i check raise a lot. it balances my range though since i'll do this with my draws as well
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surviva316
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yeah check raise is a good idea. i think getting a flop bet then making them fold is best case scenario
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AFchung
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Originally Posted by surviva316
yeah check raise is a good idea. i think getting a flop bet then making them fold is best case scenario
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actually getting a call would be better :P somehow people don't like to fold to check raises, as if they've made an emotional attachment to the pot whenever they bet at it. it's great to be paid off with ace high or a pocket pair
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bigspenda73
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that is enough of these ridiculous threads and the obv post-whoring that goes on in them.
If anyone posts a thread that obviously has been discussed 50+ times before your thread will be locked.
There is a search function, stickies in every forum, and more than likely, the same exact thread on the front page of each forum. Failure to use these tools will result in your thread being locked.
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