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Old 03-17-2005, 03:20 AM     Post subject: Winning #1 (permalink)  
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I'm often having trouble having a winning night. Or much of a winning night.

Tonight, for instance, I was doing fine, up $120 or so. Then I took a bad beat (AK beat my KK three-way all-in, made a straight) for 100 bucks (Nice $250 pot), and I'm back to square one. It took me all night to get there, and God only knows if the next six hours will have me ahead.

It just seems like I do fine as long as I don't take any bad beats.

Anyhow, my style of play is pretty tight. Any of you guys would bluff me into oblivion, I'm sure. I don't play KQ to a raise. I don't play AJ to a raise. I lay down decent hands in small pots, I'm sure I fold a lot of winners. I mix it up a little, sometimes raise with connectors, bet out my draws a lot. I buy some small pots, and play back when I think someone missed AK. I almost never lay a bad beat on someone.

Pokertracker has me listed TPA with a little rock symbol, which I guess is better than LPP.

In any event, I'm looking for a way to steadily win while I play instead of staying even in-between huge hands where I double up. Some nights I never get action and double up, and those nights suck. I almost never just gain a few bucks every ten minutes and keep it up. Usually I lose a few bucks every ten minutes (preflop calls, blinds) and then double up and make them back and then some.

Should I play more hands? Buy more pots? They say you can't bluff a bad player. I try to get really aggressive once I'm in a hand, but I usually just lose all the action that way. "Dropping the hammer" just doesn't get me anywhere.
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Old 03-17-2005, 03:45 AM #2 (permalink)  
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You've gotta mix it up. You just can't shove bets down thier throats and expect the opponents not to figure somethings up.

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Old 03-17-2005, 03:48 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Rilla, are you okay?

Every hand I post you're like "shoulda pushed on the flop there."

And that whole drop the hammer sticky...
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Old 03-17-2005, 03:54 AM #4 (permalink)  
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My bad, that was fnord.
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Old 03-17-2005, 04:03 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Rilla, are you okay?

Every hand I post you're like "shoulda pushed on the flop there."

And that whole drop the hammer sticky...
It's the truth that aggression is a smart way to go. But you're probably becoming an unimaginitve player.

The opponents will see that all you do is bet and they'll eventually counter you. Even at small stakes, people notice the super aggressive ones.

You gotta do what you can to not become predictable.

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Old 03-17-2005, 04:14 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I'm not super aggressive. I don't bet a lot when I limped preflop and missed or when I don't have anything.

Honestly, I mostly just bet a good draw (like a nut flush draw), hoping to take it down or disguise if a lower flush hits, I bet out made hands (sets, straights, etc), and I follow-up preflop raises if I miss.

Other than that, I'm not betting unless I really believe I can take it down.

I actually meant to ask if I'm not out there betting often enough, rather than too often.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:04 AM #7 (permalink)  
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When people ask me "How'd you do last night?," I have to say stuff like this:

(This is really what happened last night)

Well, I won $150. I would have won 400 except I lost a couple really big pots to suckouts on good plays I made.


I'd like to be able to say most nights that my good plays won me a lot of money. But usually my "good plays" are losing to other people's bad plays, and most all of my money comes from AA all-in preflop, or hitting the set vs the overpair.

At least, most of the big pots I win come from there.

But like I said, usually my profit is lost when someone sucks out, and I end up even or up twenty bucks or the like. Tonight someone hit a backdoor flush to beat my set, and the night is even, or up 20 bucks or something.

Maybe I should play eight tables.
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:12 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I'd like to be able to say most nights that my good plays won me a lot of money. But usually my "good plays" are losing to other people's bad plays, and most all of my money comes from AA all-in preflop, or hitting the set vs the overpair.
Dont feel bad thats where most my profit comes too! Just keep plugging away man you'll get it down!
 
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:22 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I'm sure as hell not making 17K on sets vs overpairs.

Where the hell do you play?
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