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Ace31
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04-29-2008, 04:07 AM
Post subject: Whos wins this hand?
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Hi All,
The other day while playing with some friends, we ending up in this situation. 2 players are left, one has a pair of 2s the other has an Ace and a 3 card.
On the table are a pair of 7s and a pair of Kings and a 5 card.
Who wins this? and why?
Cheers
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Guy with the Ace wins
Guy with the Ace has 2 pair KK and 77 Ace kicker
Guy with 22 has 2 pair KK and 77 5 kicker
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Ace31
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Thanks mate, I figured that would be so, but wanted to make sure. Cheers.
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bjsaust
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Wut about the 3 pair???
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Just playing to improve.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by bjsaust
Wut about the 3 pair???
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Your obviously thinking of the game that also includes the offsuit cards (Jo, Ao, etc.).. Yeah I know, not funny, but oh well.
To original poster, what occurred in this hand is known as counterfeiting. THe guy with 22 had his pair counterfeited by the 2 higher pair on the board. Also remember in Hold-em, you use the 7 cards to form the best 5 card hand. This can be down any way possible. There will be times, when you use both of the cards in your hand, and times when you don't use a single card from your hand, yet instead "play the board".
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Dude_Here
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Another good thing to realize is the if the ace had been on the board and not in a players hand they would have split that pot. Another variation on this is when someone has AA or KK and are up against a player who flopped 2 pair. The overpair is behind and but the 3rd card on the flop is another out for them IE
AA vs Q4 - flop Q,4,10, turn card is another 10 you now have aces and 10's vs queens and tens. the 4's get cancelled out.
I only mention this because it happend a couple cash games ago for my group and a couple of the beginners hadn't realized that possibility.
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GatorJH
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but what if the 2's are sooooooted?
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Pythonic
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What if he spikes his 2 on 6th street?
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Originally Posted by Pythonic
What if he spikes his 2 on 6th street?
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Then he must down 2 beers before putting the bat on the ground, placing his forehead on the bat, then completing 6 full revolutions. If he hits the softball before striking out, he wins an opportunity to win half the pot IF he can successfully complete the Elminator in a time equal to or less than that of the previous competitor's.
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spoonitnow
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We get this question about once a month, no worries.
In fact, I knew it was a counterfeited two pair hand before I even opened it.
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