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Old 10-31-2005, 10:09 PM     Post subject: When you flop a set. #1 (permalink)  
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Sets are what I make most money from, but I also loose quite a lot when I slowplay my sets sometimes. So I am wondering how others play them. (50NL FullTilt at the moment)

In what situations do you slowplay a flopped set? Position, reads, pre-flop action, what matters the most? And in what situations do you bet out with them?

Do you ever lay down to another set, or do you just pay them off? It happens very rarely but today I lost to a set of aces, I believe it is +EV to just pay them of though, cause people often go all in with top-pair and two pair where I play.
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:15 PM #2 (permalink)  
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It generally depends what else is on the board. If its a rainbow flop with no possible straight draw, then you slow play to let your opponents catch up. If theres two to the flush or two to the straight on the board, you can not afford to give a free card - you must make them pay to draw.
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:30 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I never worry about a higher set. It happens but rarely enough to not fear it. I rarely slowplay a set. It sucks to hit your set, check to the turn or river only to find someone betting back at you finally…at showdown you discover he hit his straight.
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:14 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 best way ive found to play a set is look like you have top pair.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:51 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 I play a set two different ways based on situation.

Unraised pot: I will treat it like top pair, except I will reraise if I'm reraised.

Calling a raise: Bet out a small bet looking for aggressor to reraise. Works very well with flush draw as it looks like you're betting your draw.
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:36 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Check this out... Easiest way to play a set. Hahaha

Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: ba11er6969 (2355)
Seat 3: DoWnLoW46 (1430)
Seat 6: RondaVudu (2675)
Seat 9: chickenpea (1540)
RondaVudu posts small blind (100)
chickenpea posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RondaVudu [ 4d, 4s ]
ba11er6969 raises (400) to 400
DoWnLoW46 folds.
chickenpea: takes a while
RondaVudu calls (300)
chickenpea calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8s, 4c, 6d ]
RondaVudu checks.
chickenpea bets (1140)
chickenpea is all-In.
ba11er6969 raises (1955) to 1955
ba11er6969 is all-In.
RondaVudu calls (1955)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]
DoWnLoW46: no
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
Creating Main Pot with $4620 with chickenpea
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1630 with ba11er6969
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4620 | Side Pot 1: 1630 |
Board: [ 8s 4c 6d 5d Ts ]
ba11er6969 balance 0, lost 2355 [ 8c Qh ] [ a pair of eights -- Qh,Ts,8c,8s,6d ]
DoWnLoW46 balance 1430, didn't bet (folded)
RondaVudu balance 6570, bet 2355, collected 6250, net +3895 [ 4d 4s ] [ three of a kind, fours -- Ts,8s,4d,4s,4c ]
chickenpea balance 0, lost 1540 [ Kh As ] [ high card ace -- As,Kh,Ts,8s,6d ]
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:45 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I posted my slowplayed set from last night in hand histories. I had 55 and the board was AQ5 - which is what you really want. I min-raised and the guy with 99 hit his set on the turn. If I bet 3/4 pot or more he probably would have folded. I don't mind paying off the higher set though.
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Old 11-01-2005, 05:49 PM #8 (permalink)  
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A bit of a hijack, but what if the board has 3 to a flush? Push, check call chasing a boat, or...
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:13 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I usually fast play if the flop is two suited or two to a straight;I will smooth call slowplay if it's rags.Generally I check smooth call turn if I complete to the boat.River is money of course if it holds up.
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