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Old 08-12-2005, 07:48 PM     Post subject: when to overbet? #1 (permalink)  
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just wondering, in what situations is overbetting useful?
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:27 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 When you have opp read as a stone cold draw and you have the best hand on the turn.
Personally if i think im ahead i bet the pot on the flop. If i guess someone on a draw then i bet the pot and a little extra (maybe a lot more if i know he'll chase regardless) on the turn card providing i dont think its completed his draw. I dont call a pot bet unless the pot is huge on a draw therefore if others want to call for bad odds, ill make those odds really bad.

Possibly my favourite is if your set improves to a fh by the board pairing (and their is no action) and it gives others a set on a draw free board. This works great as they all call thinking they are ahead.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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In agreeance with Miffed22001, definately overbet any hand where you think your opponent has just caught a made hand like a set or straight on the turn or river, yet you still have them beat. I think people are much more likely to call overbets if they have just caught a key card for their hand. Alot of the time it blinds them to the other possiblities out there, and they really only have to call one big overbet to get them into a situation where they might not be able to fold on later streets.
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Overbetting can be used a few different ways. Knowing your opponent is on the draw, sometimes requires an overbet to convince him to fold.

My favorite overbetting scenario is against skilled opponents. Often, with heavy preflop betting, less-skilled poker players will move all-in on the flop when they completely miss their hand. Skilled players will call this all-in quickly with mid pair or even overcards sensing their opponents weakness. What I like to do is, after I flop a big hand against a skilled player after heavy preflop betting, I move all-in in what looks like a desperate bluff. This wont necesarilly work if the flop is scary, but if the flop is something like 9-6-3, and you flopped a set of sixes, this is a great opportunity to make this play. I find myself getting called more often than not, usually near the end of MTT's.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:59 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Play really laggy with lots of raising and re-raising and when you have a power house bet huge just like you have a powerhouse. If you set up the table right, they won't believe you and you can pull in some big pots.
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:04 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I just found another situation to overbet:

$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, August 12, 17:57:36 EDT 2005
Table Table 37123 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: blufisgood ( $125.65 )
Seat 2: RedRanger555 ( $92.90 )
Seat 3: shyfter ( $159.97 )
Seat 7: blindjoe ( $48.60 )
Seat 10: WolfBlood66 ( $69.40 )
Seat 5: sithwarrior ( $72.22 )
Seat 9: CYHXXX ( $20 )
Seat 6: TyWebb003 ( $125 )
Seat 4: Cornelius110 ( $19 )
Cornelius110 posts small blind [$0.50].
sithwarrior posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to shyfter [ Tc 9d ]
TyWebb003 folds.
>You have options at Table 36776 Table!.
blindjoe calls [$1].
WolfBlood66 folds.
blufisgood folds.
>You have options at Table 36776 Table!.
RedRanger555 calls [$1].
MikeKinsella has joined the table.
shyfter calls [$1].
Cornelius110 calls [$0.50].
sithwarrior checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 6c, 5h ]
Cornelius110 checks.
sithwarrior checks.
blindjoe checks.
RedRanger555 checks.
shyfter checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
Cornelius110 checks.
sithwarrior checks.
blindjoe checks.
>You have options at Table 36602 Table!.
RedRanger555 bets [$2].
shyfter calls [$2].
Cornelius110 folds.
sithwarrior calls [$2].
blindjoe calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
sithwarrior checks.
blindjoe checks.
RedRanger555 bets [$4].
shyfter raises [$40].
sithwarrior calls [$40].
blindjoe folds.
shyfter: haha
shyfter: split pot
RedRanger555: holy crap...i'm laying down a str8t...probably wrong side <-- (btw did this guy must have have had a 3 and said that? noooooob....)
RedRanger555 folds.
shyfter shows [ Tc, 9d ] a straight, six to ten.
sithwarrior doesn't show [ 4s, 2d ] a straight, four to eight.
shyfter wins $94 from the main pot with a straight, six to ten.
shyfter: thx guys

doesnt get much better than that...
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