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mixchange
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12-30-2006, 11:04 PM
Post subject: When to leave a table up a few buy-ins
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4-of-a-Kind
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If you are up 3-5 buy-ins how is your table image affected?
My stats today:
During current Hold'em session you were dealt 398 hands and saw flop:
- 42 out of 74 times while in big blind (56%)
- 41 out of 74 times while in small blind (55%)
- 74 out of 250 times in other positions (29%)
- a total of 157 out of 398 (39%)
Pots won at showdown - 25 of 47 (53%)
Pots won without showdown - 59
Not many pre-flop raises except with high cards, otherwise mostly limps, but some sc and pair raises for variety (maybe 1 out of 10)
Up a lil over 4 buy-ins at 50NL.
with my kind of table image (lots of flops, aggression) is it:
1) Easier to get paid off in general because people think they are being muscled, or do you get folds because people fear you?
2) Easier to steal, or is this more obvious to people?
also, do you:
1) Leave while ahead and protect you profit?
2) Stay because you are playing well?
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Galapogos
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12-30-2006, 11:52 PM
Post subject: Re: When to leave a table up a few buy-ins
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Originally Posted by mixchange
also, do you:
1) Leave while ahead and protect you profit?
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This logic is good at the craps tables, not poker tables.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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DonkDonk
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I love playing big stacked. However, only if the table is a good one. As soon as the table gets bad I leave. I once had 427$ on a 50nl table with the table holding a total of 1,700$. Everybody was playing so tight, besides this one guy who dropped near 2k :P
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The flop, turn and river can change everything. It is important to remain objective and remember that the overall goal is to win, not win this specific hand
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Dave Davis
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I like playing big stack. However, it includes some risk because if you get something like AA, people are more likely to play pocket pairs and suited connectors against you because of the implied odds. But on the other side, they are afraid of you, because every hand might mean ending up all in (especially when I play big stacked). I like to play big stack because of intimidation factor and it makes me feel good about myself.
And why would you quite when you are running good? This is a mistake.
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martindcx1e
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there's no sense in being worried about your big stack if most others are normal stacked. to have a rule to just leave when you are up 5 buy-ins is silly. there's just no reason to unless there's a bunch of other deep stacked players that are good.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Seasider
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Flush
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Originally Posted by DonkDonk
I love playing big stacked. However, only if the table is a good one. As soon as the table gets bad I leave. I once had 427$ on a 50nl table with the table holding a total of 1,700$. Everybody was playing so tight, besides this one guy who dropped near 2k :P
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Sorry he dropped $2,000 in one session, at one table, at $50NL? 
I'd call shennagans, but its the end of the year and i'm feeling trustworthy.
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mixchange
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
there's no sense in being worried about your big stack if most others are normal stacked. to have a rule to just leave when you are up 5 buy-ins is silly. there's just no reason to unless there's a bunch of other deep stacked players that are good.
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Sorry, I forgot to mention often there are others at the table who have doubled up, so I could potentially lose $100 on a hand, where I could lose only $50 if I moved to a new table. Sure I could win $100, but if I wanted to play for $100 stacks I would go to 100NL... I didn't leave the table, but considered it.
how do you think the big stack affects table image?
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by mixchange
how do you think the big stack affects table image?
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if ppl have seen how you've achieved your deep stack then your image will be made up of what they've seen. when i'm new to a table and see someone with 200bb's it doesn't change their image in my mind. if they have 300bb's then i'll assume they're decent until proven otherwise. that still doesn't tell me whether they are loose or tight though.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Originally Posted by mixchange
Sorry, I forgot to mention often there are others at the table who have doubled up, so I could potentially lose $100 on a hand, where I could lose only $50 if I moved to a new table. Sure I could win $100, but if I wanted to play for $100 stacks I would go to 100NL... I didn't leave the table, but considered it.
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If you aren't comfortable to play with that amount, then don't. It adds to the variance too. I usually stay unless a good player with position on me has the same amount of money.
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Dave Davis
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Sorry, guys, I forgot to mention it is only dangerous being big stacked if some other people have more buy ins at the table too. Otherwise, it is just good intimidation factor. Nothing to worry about.
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Chopper
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01-01-2007, 04:34 PM
Post subject: Re: When to leave a table up a few buy-ins
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
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Originally Posted by mixchange
also, do you:
1) Leave while ahead and protect you profit?
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This logic is good at the craps tables, not poker tables. |
agreed. however, i do notice my action drops off when i have an overwhelming stack. beware of the action when you accumulate chips. and by that i simply mean...pay attention to it. dont give up on the table just because you have a lot of chips...you may be at a great table, in good position for that table, etc. you may even have the "LUCKY SEAT," as we all know poker is rigged! 
if you are at a great table, DONT LEAVE for any reason. well, maybe the birth of a child. 
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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Galapogos
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Originally Posted by mixchange
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
there's no sense in being worried about your big stack if most others are normal stacked. to have a rule to just leave when you are up 5 buy-ins is silly. there's just no reason to unless there's a bunch of other deep stacked players that are good.
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Sorry, I forgot to mention often there are others at the table who have doubled up, so I could potentially lose $100 on a hand, where I could lose only $50 if I moved to a new table. Sure I could win $100, but if I wanted to play for $100 stacks I would go to 100NL... I didn't leave the table, but considered it.
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Only leave if you think those other big stacks are better than you. If not, then you should stay since you're much more likely to take their money if you're better.
I think the big stack makes players less likely to fuck with you if they're fairly new to the table and don't know what to think of you yet. So you can get away with stealing a few more pots.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Chopper
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you're at a 50 NL table? no offense, but sounds like somebody is suffereing from FPS.
FPS = Fancy Play Syndrome
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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