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madd
Old 09-10-2004, 05:47 PM     Post subject: When the Kicker question #1 (permalink)  

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Player 1: As 8d
Player 2: Ad 10c

Board: Ac Kc Kd 8h 10s

Player 1: 2 pair A/K
Player 2: 2 pair A/K

Here is where the debate was, Player 2 has a 10 kicker, player 1 has a 8 kicker. But player 2 says the kicker is on the board, the 10..

Split pot??

Can a "kicker" be on the board? I thought kicker is always a hole card?
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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there are 5 community cards and 2 hole cards in which to make the BEST 5 card hand

both players best hand is AAKKT.
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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It's obvious -

Player 1 has 3 pair, AA KK 88
Player 2 has 3 pair AA KK TT

so Player 2 wins



No really, it is a split pot

AAKKT is the best 5 card hand for both players

The kicker can play either from the board or your 2 card hand.
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:59 PM     Post subject: Re: When the Kicker question #4 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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Can a "kicker" be on the board? I thought kicker is always a hole card?
Best 5 card hand. Doesn't matter if all 5 come from the board, or 3 from the board and 2 from you hand, or 4 from the board and 1 from your hand. And in holdem, suits don't matter in out-ranking.
In your example:
Player 1 has: AAKKT (T from the board)
Player 2 has AAKKT (T from the board or his hand, same difference)

Split pot.

But sometimes I wish we could count a good 6 card hand. 3 pair beats 2 pair. 2 trips beats a full house. Those hands are so rare, I sometimes wish I could get paid for them.
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
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Old 09-11-2004, 03:34 AM     Post subject: Re: When the Kicker question #5 (permalink)  
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But sometimes I wish we could count a good 6 card hand. 3 pair beats 2 pair. 2 trips beats a full house. Those hands are so rare, I sometimes wish I could get paid for them.
Not me. Imagine the consequences. You have pocket aces, and the flop is 223. A maniac from the BB goes all in in front of you with 53, and you call. Turn is blank, river is a 5 ... 3 pair, he wins!
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Old 09-17-2004, 01:39 PM #6 (permalink)  

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So . . . . a kicker is involved even with two pair or a set ??? I thought you only looked at the kicker with one pair??

Player one has K6
Player two has 6A

Board is 66xxx

Does player two win because he has a set of sixes with an A kicker?


And . . . . if its the best five card hand .... and each player has a set (same set), and there is an A on the board ... both players would have a set with an A kicker ...... then do you look to the fifth card as a secondary kicker of sorts?

EX:

Player1 6K
Player2 6Q

Board A62T6

Who wins?
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Old 09-17-2004, 01:50 PM #7 (permalink)  
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In your first case Player 2 wins: 666Ax vs 666Kx

In your second case Player 1 wins: 666AK vs 666AQ
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Old 09-17-2004, 02:09 PM #8 (permalink)  

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So . .

Player 1: 72
Player 2: 52
Board AKQJ9

Both have nothing so does player one win with the seven?

I was playing that they would split with A high and not go any further.
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Old 09-17-2004, 02:50 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 They would split because the best 5 card hand is on the board. Both players hole cards do not come into play in this situation.
However if the 9 on the board was a 3, then player 1 would win because of the 7.
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I see ..... (the 9 should have been a 3 for my question to make sense .... I'm retarded)
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Old 09-19-2004, 12:28 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Simon, I think your getting confused with the "kicker". Don't look at it as a kicker .....just best 5 cards.....
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