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WhooFleuryScores
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05-13-2006, 05:14 AM
Post subject: What's your normal variance at NL25?
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
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Hey guys,just curious what do you guys tend to experience as a normal variance per se at NL25(or your level);and how much a manic varies it.Currently I am down 3 buyins though 10,000 hands(some of it my fault,some on go broke hands aka Top Two vs Set twice,etc) and I was curious to know how you guys do with your NL rollercoasters.
Thanks guys;I learn something new at FTR every day.I want to become as good as Fnord/Renton/etc one day myself and play some professional NL25.
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martindcx1e
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I've found that my variance per session (4 tabling Party 25NL) is usually between +/- 3 buy-ins.
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WhooFleuryScores
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Full House
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Ok I feel better.......so how are the upswings than?A buyin here,a triple up there?I figure if I play break even at worse for the last 200 raked hands I'll still make a decent profit from the bonus.
Correction:I have $982;so my actual downswing tonight was about $18.Remember that I had Top Two Pair run into a set,and my QQ lost to ATo on a pot committed flop.I did double up twice once with KK vs the same ATo dude,and one Two Pair vs a moron as well.
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martindcx1e
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the most i've been up in one session so far (which is usually about 2 hours or so) is like 3.5 buy-ins. i've only played like 6,000 hands at party 25NL so far though so that might get better - hopefully. my biggest pot so far was when i had about 2 buy-ins and i got 3 others all-in with my AA pre-flop. 2 had KK and 1 had AJ. 1 had about 110BB's. another had about 80BB's and another had like 40BB's. i have yet to lose a large stack.
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WhooFleuryScores
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Full House
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That's good to hear.Trusat me losing a big stackj even just $30 isn;t fiun.
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jackvance
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Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
That's good to hear.Trusat me losing a big stackj even just $30 isn;t fiun.
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I'm not trying to critique your play here, but if this is over 10k hands then I'd take a closer look at my game. My guess is you're paying off other guys' winners too much?
The way I see it, in the long run, people will flop as many monsters on me as I will flop on them. They will flop as many sets on my TP as I flop sets on their TPs. So my "edge" only comes from me getting paid more when I hit my winners, and more importantly, me not paying off their winners so much.
If 25NL at your site is anything like 20NL at unibet, then it *is* a pretty high variance game though. I'm currently grinding the lower variance 10NL so get rolled for it because I need to be able to catch the downswings..
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by jackvance
I'm not trying to critique your play here, but if this is over 10k hands then I'd take a closer look at my game. My guess is you're paying off other guys' winners too much?
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He said some of it is his fault.
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crushednuts
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My variance at 10 NL has been really huge. Today I lost 3 buyins at CD poker in 20 minutes but won 5 buy ins at beginners party poker in the same time! Crazy stuff...Generally I can win 2-3 buy ins in a matter of hours or occasionally drop a couple of buyins pretty quick depending on how often i get a cold deck...
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WhooFleuryScores
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He said some of it is his fault.
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That it is.But I am learning.
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So my "edge" only comes from me getting paid more when I hit my winners, and more importantly, me not paying off their winners so much.
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That's actually a point I'm trying to work on right now.
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If 25NL at your site is anything like 20NL at unibet, then it *is* a pretty high variance game though.
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I'd say most agree Party NL25 has some serious swings.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
I'd say most agree Party NL25 has some serious swings.
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omg does it ever
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johnnyBuz
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aftter playing great today and making 5 buyins, i just lost 1 and a half to some poor cards and poor plays / draws that didnt come to frutition. just gotta manage it is all. grrrr.
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Liter of cola.
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Turska
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05-15-2006, 09:41 AM
Post subject: Make changes
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
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My normal variance in one 2-hour session is
-2 / + 6 buy-ins. -2 is very rare, -1 sometimes, break evens quite
often. Ive just 2 months stats but I have win/loss ratio in
sessions 75/25.
If u r down 3 buy-ins in 10k hands, you have to make
changes in your play. I dont think its only variance.
I mean 10 k hands i quite big sample size.
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WhooFleuryScores
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If u r down 3 buy-ins in 10k hands, you have to make
changes in your play. I dont think its only variance.
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I reached a little short of 10K hands;right now I fought back to being -$1.50 under.So yeah it looks like I'll need to start making changes in me play.I'll post some PT stats for feedback.
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