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royalpain
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03-11-2005, 01:06 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I have been playing pacific poker for a month now, both .50/1.00 and NL $5.00+.50 tourneys. I am basically even money playing quality hands and trying to follow the advise of this site. What do I need to do to be consistant and win?
thx
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royalpain
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3
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i have a bank roll of $52.00. I'm up $2.00 after playing 400+ hands in the past 4 weeks.
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Aceofone
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 497
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You dont have enough of a bankroll to support .5/1
See Rilla's bankroll management post.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=4971
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royalpain
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3
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I messed up, I have been playing .25 / .50. These tables are not NL.
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Aceofone
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 497
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In that case --and it's still a fairly short roll your playing with-- You should post some hand histories on here, give us more details about your play, start looking for leaks: you might be playing too many hands, too few, drawing too much, drawing too little. We need more details for a diagnosis. 
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Nest of Douchebags
Posts: 2,184
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Yeah, it's kind of like saying so I have this car and it's not going too well, what's wrong with it?
Let's see some stats
Better advice would be for you to move to stars and play smaller stakes so you don't risk too much of your BR.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Jay67s
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 241
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Actually with only 400+ hands the stats may not show the entire picture. Post some hand histories and let the guru's here critique your play. You will need a couple thousand of hands before your stats even start to be meaningfull. Stats are the key to learning poker.
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Legendash
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Full House
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Crypto 6max 100NL
Posts: 611
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400 hands in a month isn't very much, maybe you need to play a bit more if you want to see an improvement, a couple of bad beats could make 400 solid hands a loss.
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"[This theory] is only useful for helping to calculate your luck odds. If you have a good read that you have a numerical advantage against your opponent, that your hand is "luckier"..."
Copyright, Youngdro 2007.
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EasyT
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yo Mamma
Posts: 834
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I'm in the same boat as ROYALPAIN with around 2,000 hands. I gave up last night after 100 hands...I only played three, two of which were losers. Well, I called or raised into the flop on 17% of hands, but missed the flop entirely and let go. The two I didn't let go of was KK on a rag flop (lost $20.00 to set 7s). And T9 from SB which flopped two pair (lost $20 to straight). I won one hand the whole hundred with AA (won $6.00).
But last night was unusual. I think I played too aggressively on those hands because I was getting so few playable hands. I know what I did wrong on each hand, so I won't post them.
It just seems like I get up a little, and then down a little, but never make any progress.
What stats should I look at to find leaks?
What other details are useful?
Which hands should I post?
It seems like every time I'm put to a tough decision, I call down the winners and fold hands that would have won. That's an exaggeration, I know. But I'm making the wrong call too often to see profit online. The nights I make money are nights when the decisions aren't too hard (yeah, I'm going to call your re-raise with JsFull).
Now that I'm really thinking about it, the TOUGH decisions are almost always top pair. And I wouldn't be in the hand without a good kicker. Maybe that's my worst hand. I'm convinced that TPGK is good for lots of small pots. Help!
I'm at work now, but when I get home, I'll have to let PokerTracker isolate all the hands where I flopped top pair and scrutinize.
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FlyingSaucy
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Watching the kids
Posts: 1,603
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400 hands in a month is like, 13 minutes of playing per day if you average about 1 hand per minute. You can't expect fast results... I think it's safe to say that nearly all of the successful players out there were extremely dedicated for a long time and probably did not start out on an upswing.
Have you played much already in B&M or home games before, or is this your first major foray into holdem?
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 906
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Pacific Poker won't give you stats.  I'm guessing your 400 hands is at the ring games and you are not counting SNG's?
It is great you haven't lost money with Pacific's nasty rake, and you have been clearing their bonus. Good for you! And congratulations for seeking help from this fun community.
I've been playing Pacific for about three weeks, mostly $5 & $10 SNG's and Nickle/Dime NL. I am nobody, a relative newby, and consider myself only a little smarter than the average bear, but ...
TABLE SELECTION helps me take money OUT of Pacific.- If I choose a table with more than 55% players per flop, I try to play more draws cheaply. A high PPF percentage is usually good, but Pacific is ridiculous, and too high numbers (80%!!?) may indicate too many bad beats and maniacs at that table (personally, I have to prevent the TILT.)
My experience is there is usually about two Aggressives per table -- they have more money in front of them than the max buy-in. If you can ID them, move to their left, so you act after them and Raise/CheckRaise/ReRaise them when you have the goods.
I try to find a table where nearly all the players seated have less than the buy-in, and I sit down with less than the max buy-in, so I blend in (others on FTR would disagree about this, but I do this so I don't scare the fish.)
The rest of the players you can push around a little and they will usually call with junk and disappear. If they beat you, they have been underbetting (looks like slow play) or overbetting (not a bluff) their lucky hands -- hard to read, but try to ID which player is which -- under or over. Once they are gone, change tables -- don't mash it out with the sharks -- that is negative EV just from the rake.
Post your progress and good luck to you.
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