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    Default What's the most important thing that poker takes you?

    For me,it's patience and luck.What about yours?I would like hear from you.
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    If you mean, "What's the most important factor to becoming successful at poker" I would say that it's dedication.

    I agree with you that patience is important, but am not sold of the "luck" factor as much. It's true that getting lucky a couple of times in a big buy-in event (relative to one's bankroll) can be a huge boost, but over the long term luck is responsible for a very small percentage of so-called success stories.

    By the way, welcome to the FlopTurnRiver boards, jayjoe. Hope to see you around.
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    for me , its that freerollers make threads like these because they want an easy route to get lucky and win pennies. real money players post hands or strategy for criticism/discussion so that they can become better players and play for a regular income from poker.
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    Replace "luck" with "probability manipulation" and we're getting somewhere.
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    ongies gonna ong
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    Luck shouldn´t matter for you. For instance if you ahead preflop allin - then you have won the hand, even if you lose. Understand?
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    Luck isn't a factor because luck doesn't exist. Probability exists.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel72 View Post
    Luck shouldn´t matter for you. For instance if you ahead preflop allin - then you have won the hand, even if you lose. Understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayjoe View Post
    For me,it's patience and luck.What about yours?I would like hear from you.
    I've noticed that if I try really hard not to make stupid, pointless forum threads my poker ability shoots through the roof. Try it sometime!
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    I think, These games are purely depend upon the luck and also with skill. Both are needed for success.
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    I 100% disagree about the luck factor in poker. At one time I did used to think this myself, and this may be the case in a one off session down the casino or with friends, but one thing I have found very important to my quality of poker is to count my outs and take advantage of the proper pot odds.
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    Poker is all about patience and luck. If you play good ,then it will take you long way with success. Skills are matters but luck is very important for everything in life . I am big fan of poker and play free poker at Texasholdem.
    Last edited by Sam Wagenheim; 10-30-2014 at 08:54 AM. Reason: spelling mistake
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    Would someone warn me if I do something wrong first before you ban me. lol I can be dense at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breezy View Post
    Would someone warn me if I do something wrong first before you ban me. lol I can be dense at times.
    Breezy, I may be in the same boat as you, man. I mean jayjoe is already banned after only three posts, but Sam Wagenheim with three posts is not. I mean what is the fine line? I see Keith with a hatred of freerollers, but Ferguson and many others have done the zero to $10,000 bankroll challenge. So why the hate on the freerollers? If you lose your bankroll, you freeroll another roll, once you have a new roll you use it to increase your bankroll 5 digits using good bankroll money management.
    To me, the most important thing about online poker is luck. I have monied in more of my online tournaments with luck rather than skill. Almost every one of my skill hands that I am ahead on the turn, take me out of the money on the river. Almost every game I have monied in, some weak hand that I have been forced to play, wins some luck way, and it's like I would have never played that hand in a million years, and guess what, luck has me win a totally losing hand. Wow, I am in the money, through no skill of my own. Bologna, I would like skill to win me some decent funds, but more often than not, I win triple my usual amounts when lady luck rears her beautiful head. In my online tournament world lady luck trumps skill.

    Another thing poker shows me is rakeback. If you are not getting rakeback, more than likely you are a losing player because rake trumps all. I mean the casinos do not build hotels because they run a charity. The excitement and heyday of online poker was these poker sites giving bonuses like there was no tomorrow. Now the bonuses are not even a hundredth of what they used to be when a lot of poker players could make a living with the bonuses and rakeback the sites were offering years ago. Those wild heydays are a distant memory. Some players were flopturnriver players too, eating at the trough during the good times. I am in too many ring games with players and both of us lose all our money and rebuy in, and nobody has came in or left the table. It is because the rake has eaten us up alive. I hear Pokerstars has raised the rake this week. The online game of poker is not getting any cheaper to play.

    Last thing about poker is get a sponsor. You see NASCAR drivers with sponsors, well, poker is no different as a sport. If you want to make a bundle of money, you have to get sponsored.

    Talking about a hand history, my full house lost to a higher full house tonight. The only way I could have won the hand is by folding, because the other person was not backing down.
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    lets clear this bullshit up Eberretta. Did you actually look at his 3 posts or did you jump to your conclusion merely by seeing the number of posts he had made? His first post was a blatant advertisement for his own pokersite and the content was from his site. I deleted the name of his site from the title and and sent him a warning by PM not to advertise his site again. He then posted this thread and followed it up with another "strategy" post from his site. At this point the Mods discussed it and the decision was taken to ban him for promoting his own site.You might find this thread enlightens you http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...on-198129.html
    I see Keith with a hatred of freerollers, but Ferguson and many others have done the zero to $10,000 bankroll challenge. So why the hate on the freerollers? If you lose your bankroll, you freeroll another roll, once you have a new roll you use it to increase your bankroll 5 digits using good bankroll money management.


    I have no hate at all for freerollers . I started out playing freerolls and when i was winning consistently i looked to move to real money play and found FTR . Then i posted hands like mad and commented on others hands. None of the regs mind people giving "wrong" opinions as it helps them and others to learn when they are corrected by the better players as long as those "wrong" opinions are given in an attempt to learn and improve their poker skills.
    What i hate is people who make these fluffy posts that improves no one's poker skills , noone learns anything and the posters think that they should then be entitled to password access for the value added tourneys that the sites and FTR provide. FTR is a business seeeking to attract new members who will provide content that will attract new members for itself and customers for the sites it is linked to. in return the sites and FTR provide those added value tourneys. Why should people who contribute nothing to FTR have access to those prizepools and deny the active members of FTR a chance at them.
    To me, the most important thing about online poker is luck. I have monied in more of my online tournaments with luck rather than skill. Almost every one of my skill hands that I am ahead on the turn, take me out of the money on the river. Almost every game I have monied in, some weak hand that I have been forced to play, wins some luck way, and it's like I would have never played that hand in a million years, and guess what, luck has me win a totally losing hand. Wow, I am in the money, through no skill of my own. Bologna, I would like skill to win me some decent funds, but more often than not, I win triple my usual amounts when lady luck rears her beautiful head. In my online tournament world lady luck trumps skill.


    again a fallacy . If you had posted hand histories and learnt you would have improved your understanding of poker to know that this is wrong.if you keep taking 80:20 opportunities you will win lots of money. You are selectively remembering the bad beats and using them to justify to yourself that luck is more important than skill and so you keep doing the same old thing and relying on suckouts. Skill will get you the chip count to withstand the bad beats.Skill will get you the chip counts to win a lot more money in the long run, but as you don't appear to be working on your skill how can it improve so that it wins you more money?. Look at the heasdsup tourney in the gauntlet , you didn't have the skill to play heads up poker so you resorted to open shoving most hands and hoping to get lucky. How are you going to win tournaments with the big pay jumps if you don't know how to play heads up poker?.
    Last edited by Keith; 11-05-2014 at 04:29 AM.
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    Well, thanks for answering the question of why one person got banned, I mean if there was a banned thread, maybe I would not have to reply in the thread that I see someone got banned. I was surpised Sam was not banned, because he had the same amount of posts and is bragging in this thread at what pokersite he is pushing.


    You are right, the heads up poker format is not my preferred game. It is way too easy to beat a player like me who likes to limp into a hand. So a person who always does pre-flop raises has an edge in that format to my style of play. I doubt more than 1 percent of the players who play poker believe that heads up poker is their favorite version of poker, anyways. The only time I enjoy heads up poker is when I am heads up at the end of a tournament and I am playing the chip leader heads up and they have a 4:1 chip lead. I feel confident with my skill set, that I can take the player down 80 percent of the time, and if I do not take them down, at some point in the heads up play I usually did at some point acquire more chips than they have, so it was a moral victory even if I ended up losing in heads up. Btw, any two face cards in heads up poker is an all in hand, especially if my opponent is raising my blinds by 3x every hand that is dealt, because they love to raise pre-flop.

    Also, all in or fold tournaments is one of my forms of poker I like playing. They are a popular fomat, so much so that they are out there as frequently as heads up tournaments. I like the Double or Nothing format most as a format. Then the No Limit Hold em format. Then pot limit. The fixed limit format, I don't know why one would waste their time, but everyone knows what they like, so who am I to say what format is right or wrong for each individual.

    I have not been able to play in any buyin games in at least four months for FlopTurnRiver as there have been none that allow U.S. players. I guess that is why I have played a few games of OFC Pineapple poker, to stay active in the forum.

    Thanks for the constructive criticism of my game. That is what I miss out on the most at the FullTilt poker academy. It would give you classes and have you go into real money hands meeting certain criteria to help improve your game. And it would give points and tournaments as rewards for the learning and the classes. I like the interviews with the pros a lot and asking them questions on this forum.
    Last edited by eberetta1; 11-05-2014 at 12:57 PM.
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    I wish the Chris Ferguson thing would die a painful death. Nobody playing freerolls has his skill when he did that challenge, the poker landscape has changed considerably to the point that I doubt anyone could do it now except someone that doesn't need the 10K from poker because they have already climbed the stakes and lastly, when he played freerolls had higher payouts and smaller fields. They weren't filled with 10K participants day in and day out playing for $2 prizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    I wish the Chris Ferguson thing would die a painful death. Nobody playing freerolls has his skill when he did that challenge, the poker landscape has changed considerably to the point that I doubt anyone could do it now except someone that doesn't need the 10K from poker because they have already climbed the stakes and lastly, when he played freerolls had higher payouts and smaller fields. They weren't filled with 10K participants day in and day out playing for $2 prizes.
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