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Big Dazz
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07-09-2007, 02:02 PM
Post subject: What's a donk lead?
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portsmouth, England
Posts: 45
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Hi,
I caught the tail end of a discussion about a "donk lead" on the TV yesterday.
Any ideas???
Cheers
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,308
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when i raise preflop and you call in the blinds (OOP)
but then you bet into me on flop instead of letting me keep doing the betting
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Monty9
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: new jwesey
Posts: 255
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isn't this sometimes a GOOD move ??
stop and go ??
or to re-steal a blind steal ?
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Why is it a penny for your thoughts but
you have to put your 2 cents in??
Somebody's making a penny!!
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biondino
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
Posts: 3,170
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It can be a good move, yes - it confuses the pre-flop raiser and can get folds where otherwise you would have to fold yourself to a c-bet. However, logic demonstrates it will ofen lose you value - if you have a strong hand on the flop and donk bet it, the guy with AQ unimproved is jst going to fold rather than make the cbet which could have provided you with one or more street's worth of extra winnings.
It's also an exploitable move - a strong opponent with position on you will often be able to play back at you. The most common times you'll see donk leads is when the donk in question has a decent but not stellar hand, TPWK, middle pair, a decent draw, say. So an aggressive opponent, with position, will be able to bt or raise against the donk leaving him with a tricky decision, and providing a straightforward opportunity to fold on the ocasions when the donk has a monster.
Having said all that, I still do it from time to time to mix thngs up, or to take the initiative against a weak or predictable villain, or to juice the pot against a passive opponent if the circumstances are right. I probably misplay it a fair amount of the time, but it can help with an image and up your aggression factor.
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Big Dazz
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portsmouth, England
Posts: 45
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OK - thanks for the replies . . :P
Trouble is is . . . this makes me a donk . .  Seriously, I do this quite often. On the loose passive $10 europoker tables, there aint no way I'm checking the flop to get checked and give a free card and get busted. They are so loose they'll call the donk lead . . .  anyways. I tend to just bet and let em chase.
Cheers
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